Reincarnation and the Bible. Biblical texts that seem to imply belief in reincarnation
The most "convincing" texts of this kind are the following:
1) Matthew 11,14 and 17,12-13, concerning the identity of John the Baptist; 2) John 9,2, "Who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"; 3) John 3,3, "No one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again"; 4) James 3,6, "the wheel of nature"; 5) Galatians 6,7, "A man reaps what he sows"; 6) Matthew 26,52, "all who draw the sword will die by the sword"; 7) Revelation 13,10, "If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed."
if this is the correct total of all world countries external debt = US$78,073,920,988,000 mee thinks that figure is trillions, then its inevitable as there is only between 3 and 4 trillion issued as money or gold floating about to repay it, then its an inevitable outcome, whether US fails early next month or not will anyway
I think they are just greedy, driven by money, i guess socialism is encouraged in universities, that they are pissing on the graves of all the soldiers that died trying to contain communism in Korea, Malaya, Borneo and Vietnam. Right now the biggest benefactor of profits out of the Iraq conflict is China, the prime minister of Iraq is currently in China. Today somebody let a bomb off in Norway, whether linked or not i dunno but some dud in custody also shot 80 or 85 students on Norwegian Island around same time the bob went off. China didn't like Obama chatting with Dalai Lama, they constantly display there dishonest and lack of human rights and peaceful intentions. Again goes to deeds not the words, the deeds speak lot louder.
I cannot perceive Australian doing anything other than voting with there feet at next election whenever that occurs. Think full blown depression will turn up first
I am whether you like it or not doing and saying what i perceive as correct. Appointed Temple Director by the Spiritual Head of the Foundation for the Preservation of the Mahayana teachings and approved of by the HHDL, Lama Thubten Zopa Rinpoche director of "Temple Gyalwa Ensapa". Gyalwa Ensapa was one the names of the third Panchen Lama. The first Panchen Lama named the first incarnation of Dalai Lama. Panchen Lama dealt with the political affairs of the sovereign nation of Tibet, in its relations with its neighbour China.
I think your a long off the mark Martia, you may not understand or even want to. But there is no course for you to belittle my life, my reasoning or my views when by the sounds of what you've said your to lazy to study or inform yourself about anything other than you own self cherishing delusions
You clearly didn't read the following: To agree to the sale of Temple Property or not see your children i (the appointed Temple Director) considered utterly unacceptable, that a women would seek to have me submit to her will, i also considered unacceptable and in my children best interest to have a every second weekend baby-sitter daddy as a father. I considered father of my children as being a person living with them, not something else, utterly unacceptable to think man should in such matter submit to the will of a women... (2)I wouldn't agree with you, the laws are made by parliament and the judiciary are paid to comply with the Rules and Regulations made by them,i say they didn't and can substantiate that. When we have people making determinations and then twenty minutes later also writing a judges determination in same handwriting, while holding a hearing without notice to all parties to proceedings. When the trial judges wife appeared for the other party, and when lawyers in receipt of a grant of legal Aid to act in a Federal Court Matter and fail to act in the interest of the party the grant related to etc etc, then go off and hide behind a State complaints process. When an Attorney Generals not once but three times failed to comply with the Family Law Act of 1975 etc etc...
I think Martia i strongly disagree with your suggestion
I just been listening the ABC Foreign Correspondence program grossly misrepresenting Tibetans in Exile; what likely will happen after Dalai Lama. An Australia report that appeared to me that must have been constructed with the aid of the Chinese or supporters here in Australia. They just happened to not mention last incarnations of Panchen Lama met untimely death, indeed President Hu laughingly stated the last incarnations cook mistakenly put arsenic in his dumplings. Many believe the last two incarnations were murdered by the Chinese. The ABC reporters attempted to proclaim some conflict between Yellow Hats and Black Hats, which is utter rubbish, Dalai Lama is and always has been head of all four sects. Kamapa Lama may well look after affairs after the demise of HHDL, but will never and would never replace Dalai Lama. Dalai Lama has from his own side, fourteen times proven he is the continuous mind-stream of the proceeding and all earlier rebirths of Dalai Lama. Seems to me the ABC gone out of there way to misrepresent, discredit and imply conflict within the Sanga when there will never be any conflict in relation to nature of HHDL
Most of the post is what martia has said... my response was in the main
Responding in a thread pertaining to views on theology or the subject of creation, or views of non-self that i put forward are clearly differing views held between Rev and myself. Debates are for doing just that.
The school i spent many years closely studying, is sometimes called the "Mind only School of Thought". Though the type of thinking is foreign to our western habitual perceptions of reality, and can be hard to start to comprehend and require qualified persons to explain, which i am not. The school of thought is non the less, both simple as it is complicated. Finding no understanding in what appears as disjointed thought could be because i write just one word at a time, and read likewise. The twenty-seven words the Buddha said containing the whole path containing the causes and cessation of our sufferings and going beyond "Enlightenment" are (the twenty-seven words) expressed in probably hundreds of thousands of explanations expressed by qualified students of the school of thought. Qualified people like HHDL and his qualified teachers in all four schools of the Mahayana Schools of thought. Takes patients, like my time in Euroa trying to comprehend and find understanding in the Australian Constitution to a level i could correctly construct based in law an application to file in the High Court. Took three and half months for a penny to drop, until then was just giggly-gog. Throughout the time i spent looking into that a reread and reread books right through until it made sense. Throughout my short schooling (second year high) i was in special reading classes, i could not and still cannot spell, but worked out all Judges and members of the Judiciary have a legal obligation to uphold the scheduled of the Constitution...
That's your choice and i don't mind, but if you want find understanding what others think, then you make enquires and looking into what they are saying. To state others including myself are talking nonsense gives reason to try and assist you. Rev and I extensively debated our had heaps of disagreements but found an understanding of each others views.
You've been staying things like:
There is no beginning and of course no end. In fact in everything that is.... we just have a big never ending circle!that's the best way to explain it. Its us humans that have to have that start and finish makes us feel safe.What if there isn't ?
To take it further.... to have a sense of self is it just luck that we emerge in a particular time or is it more than that!!!
The mind cannot go very far into the future... is it meant to be that way.?
Do we really Die or just trundle around as nothing until until we come to our senses again.
Is the reason a lot of people are into religion is that they need someone to be there when their life comes to an end.... a higher being! because there HAS to be that end again.
We cannot not escape that outcome!!! is it just too much to bear without a safety net that is called living.
You state that you are unbelieving an agnostic, which is best as i can tell means your saying your uncertain of all claims to knowledge. If you are then seeking better understanding of what people are saying.
The only way i know to assist is feed back and explain i could not understand from what you had written what you believed was. You have also said its because you hold no belief.
Responding in a thread pertaining to views on theology or the subject of creation, or views of non-self that i put forward are clearly differing views held between Rev and myself. Debates are for doing just that.
The school i spent many years closely studying, is sometimes called the "Mind only School of Thought". Though the type of thinking is foreign to our western habitual perceptions of reality, and can be hard to start to comprehend and require qualified persons to explain, which i am not. The school of thought is non the less, both simple as it is complicated. Finding no understanding in what appears as disjointed thought could be because i write just one word at a time, and read likewise. The twenty-seven words the Buddha said containing the whole path containing the causes and cessation of our sufferings and going beyond "Enlightenment" are (the twenty-seven words) expressed in probably hundreds of thousands of explanations expressed by qualified students of the school of thought. Qualified people like HHDL and his qualified teachers in all four schools of the Mahayana Schools of thought. Takes patients, like my time in Euroa trying to comprehend and find understanding in the Australian Constitution to a level i could correctly construct based in law an application to file in the High Court. Took three and half months for a penny to drop, until then was just giggly-gog. Throughout the time i spent looking into that a reread and reread books right through until it made sense. Throughout my short schooling (second year high) i was in special reading classes, i could not and still cannot spell, but worked out all Judges and members of the Judiciary have a legal obligation to uphold the scheduled of the Constitution...
What on earth are you talking about, best as i can tell from what you've written you have not even the slightest under standing of the notion of course and effect, or every action has a reaction or anything other than a delusion that things (or everything, including the self) do not exist; a sense that everything is unreal. A lack of meaning which threatens the psychotic may be representative of nihilistic doubt which threatens us all.
yeah took a long time, i took an uncompromising position a long time ago because from my side i felt its what i had to do anyway didn't seem to matter today, he just spoke as though last time was yesterday was good
first time since 1994, had a chat with my son on skype today, was ok but didn't have the cam running but still was great to hear his voice and say g'day
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Rank Country Billion USD 1 People's Republic of China $3,197 2 Japan $1,378 3 Russia $525 4 Saudi Arabia $466 5 Republic of China (Taiwan) $400 6 Brazil $340 7 India $310 8 South Korea $307 9 Switzerland $280 10 Hong Kong $277 11 Singapore $243 12 Germany $221 13 Thailand $190 14 France $173 15 Italy $164 16 Algeria $155 17 United States $140 18 Mexico $130 19 United Kingdom $119
Rank Country Billion USD 1 People's Republic of China $3,197 2 Japan $1,378 3 Russia $525 4 Saudi Arabia $466 5 Republic of China (Taiwan) $400 6 Brazil $340 7 India $310 8 South Korea $307 9 Switzerland $280 10 Hong Kong $277 11 Singapore $243 12 Germany $221 13 Thailand $190 14 France $173 15 Italy $164 16 Algeria $155 17 United States $140 18 Mexico $130 19 United Kingdom $119 Total $9,015
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oh it doesn't really matter, others believe whatever they want to, i think most Aussie's keep a pretty open mind, only a few are actually sucked in by the chocolate, xmas story line, sweet sounding voices with limp-wrists, music and other mindless activities that can easily picked while they are harshly judging the karmas of others. Like and Dislike is another of the afflictions a few suffer greatly from.
Christ wondered around about 27 generations ago, a drop in the bucket, my great grand fathers great grand father's great grand fathers great grand father or something. I don't under stand why a, intelligent person like yourself cannot understand its a load of harmful rubbish, complete bumkin
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Lend me your wisdom oh wise gracious onesReincarnation and the Bible. Biblical texts that seem to imply belief in reincarnation
The most "convincing" texts of this kind are the following:
1) Matthew 11,14 and 17,12-13, concerning the identity of John the Baptist;
2) John 9,2, "Who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?";
3) John 3,3, "No one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again";
4) James 3,6, "the wheel of nature";
5) Galatians 6,7, "A man reaps what he sows";
6) Matthew 26,52, "all who draw the sword will die by the sword";
7) Revelation 13,10, "If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity he will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword he will be killed."