Gullible
I was just reading this post on the recent news about this Filipina who is going to be executed in Indonesia. I feel so sorry for her but I cannot help but wonder why some people prey on other people who appear to be vulnerable and gullible? Don't they have anything else to do with their lives? Whether it is online or in real life, some people like to prey on others to extract money from them. It is amazing how they are so heartless. I do not blame the victims. Some people say that they have no brains because they allowed themselves to be victims. But remember, we do not know know the whole story why they gave in to this scams.When will society ever change?
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over a bridge she was alive now declared insane it happened here
in Florida
Also, criticising people for not having information, or skills they don't yet have seems a little illogical.
Does that sound like the actions of a sane man?
It's well known that corruption and injustice are a given in Indonesia.
Rodrigo Gularte has a long history of mental illness. Indonesia does not accept his paranoid schizophrenia as a reason to not apply the death sentence. Any civilized country sends such criminals to a closed mental ward to do their time.
I could go on and on but bottom line is, you really did hit a nerve by coming up here and call Marie Jane gullible.
Some people would say Indonesians haven no brains, hearts and don't even realize they're the victims of tomorrow.
but why did u stay in Indo for so long?
when I lived in Tunisia because my ex husband been called by Tunisian government to help them in health facilities, we didn't like the system they have... but when we criticize them, they said "this is my country, we do like we want... you don't like our way, you go back to your country!". I answered to them "your government called us to help your country!" and they say "say no !! and stay in your country or you shut up !" and yes... we all expats just shut our mouth up !!
as simple as that and life goes on !!
Indonesians should say the same....
No point in debating this case with such foreigner who live and enjoy my country. We have proverb in our laguange for a person like you : kacang lupa kulit and besar pasak daripada tiang
I am done everyone... stormylady, thanks for nice blog... good night
there is even reason to doubt humanity in people themselves...
Mandela was the most visionary leader in the fight to protect and promote human rights. He devoted his entire life to humanity and his long walk to freedom proved his enduring respect for human dignity. He struggled in the fight for human rights and equality in a country that also had implemented unacceptable " laws that needed to be respected ". His courage and integrity and his commitment was remarkable. He fought against inequality and injustice. He believed that everyone has the right to life and that Capital Punishment was unconstitutional. He said never again will people from his country be subjected to the BARBARIC PRACTICE OF CAPITAL PUNISHMENT. South Africa and indeed the entire African continent respect and honour his legacy.
Widodo can not even walk in his shadow. Moreover He has disrespected Mandelas core beliefs. Mandelas images and quotes should have never been removed from Bandung and Jakarta because Widodo and his cabinet are utterly disrespecting all that Nelson Mandela stood for.
What a cruel joke! The executions were held off until after the conferences because "it wouldn't be nice to kill people with so many guests"
Thank you for coming back to your blog. I believe that was your intention of rising this topic.... then someone tried to show off simply think that her experiences is better than the rest of us here about certain topic (which actually only read a bunch of articles)... but obvious she never meet anybody with drug problems like what Ken has or be in any country with worse situation than Indonesia like what Mr G said...
have a good Sunday everyone...
"No innocent person should ever be murdered simply because of a belief that the guilty should be murdered as punishment."
First an execution legally is not a Murder. Murder is the intentional illegal killing of a Human. The key word here is illegal. If the law allows it, then it is not illegal. You may not like it, but that does not change the meaning of the word.
A judicially sanctioned execution is not a murder.
Second, my counter thought is "no innocent person should ever die as the result of the illegal actions of another.
This of course includes those who profit from the sale of drugs and thereby cause deaths and suffering. Acknowledged it takes two to tango, but when one walks away with money in their pocket while the other one dies, something is wrong with a system allowing that.
Regarding the fact a smuggler was caught going out instead of coming in. What difference? The crime is having the quantity he did while inside Indonesia. What his intent was after acquiring them illegally or in another place is immaterial. He was in Indonesia when he had it. That is all that is important. Kill him and be done with it so he can never do it again. Of course the flip side is also true. Execute the one who gave it to him too. Also the person who gave it to that person, etc. All the way up the chain, and also include whoever got the monies.
The other 20 topics or side bars raised, I will let someone else write to them, if they wish to spend the time.
"Somewhat unfocussed"? Hilarious!
So you prefer pure semantics and irrelevancy to the arguments actually offered?
For any rational, caring person, execution is but legally sanctioned murder. The language (murder) is appropriate to the nature of the punishment, rather than hiding it behind some cloak of civility (execution).
Such a blind adherence (as you display) to any specific "legality" is incredibly dangerous and narrow-minded, and the very foundation of exactly the kind of brutality being discussed.
The people we (well, most of us) consider most highly today would cringe at your words. Ghandi, Mandela et al.
Good on you for passing the buck on to others to argue, Ken, because your arguments were truly abysmal. It's hard to believe you even read my post with any comprehension.
@tatami
Why would anyone deny them the chance of proving their rehabilitation? That's what execution does, unfortunately! I am under the impression that they have been observed quite intently, and people (with open eyes) are very impressed with what they have done.
Just like Panama did it for example, and the Philippines, too, I guess.
I wasn't aware of this until now.
I've just signed too...thanks!
Let's hope for the best...
NO...it's me who must thank you
Thank you for spreading awareness and shedding a bright light...many are in the dark and badly need and would appreciate that light
hddp:/Ken19.drugs.com.wants-to-be-shot-dead-through-the-heart-with-a-winchester-in-Indonesia
I feel for the woman who was used as a drug mule...she appears to be a victim...as for the others involved...they knew the risk of getting caught with drugs in Indonesia...the death penalty...
Although I do not support the death penalty in general...when I am travelling to any foreign countries...I educate myself on their laws and abide by their laws...
Bali, I forwarded the link to some of my friends and hopefully we'll make an impact. Where's the vigil Bali?
If you like I can request that you'll be accepted in some closed FB groups. Just mail me your FB. The groups had to be turned into closed groups to keep the hate full voices out.