Why we should admire America

So sentimental that the thought of Mom's home baked apple pie brings a tear to their eye, yet able to put a man in a gas chamber without it causing the slightest conflict in their sensibility. This is the stuff that builds a truly great nation. professor
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Few Full Blood Italian women have blond hair color. Stefani’s actual pale brown hair must be from her Irish mother.
Mind you, Abba were quite popular back in the day. But they're not really American, so maybe we should admire Sweden a bit more.
Yeah well I’ve got this admiration for the swedish sphinx
Yeah, well Mrbo, Italian blonde Madonna is a natural brunette laugh
Hello, boys. flirty

What a busy night you've had.
Name a great nation whorbottles.
USA no longer uses gas chamber.
Baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolets...
@ firebrand

I"ll bring you up to date shall I.




Arizona ‘refurbishes’ its gas chamber to prepare for executions, documents reveal

The corrections department has spent more than $2,000 on ingredients to make cyanide gas, the same used in Auschwitz
Mexico? dunno

Really; so how does the state kill people these days then?
Thanks for that research, Tiger. wave

I often wonder how powerful my arguments would be if I could bother to do research. drinking
Morning Harbottle

It always amazes me that people don't know just what does go in their own country to be honest. If you read up about the death penalty in the States it's not just Arizona either.

One of the reasons why there are so many on death row over there is because they cannot decide which method to use. sigh
Religion and capitalism are probably what feeds into capital punishment. In the former it's not a better earth which is important, the afterlife is what's important, and then you have the American very capitalist idea of a just world; whatever happens to you, good or bad, you deserved it.
And by religion I mean the protestants. Protestantism goes better with capitalism where Catholics retain the enduring sense that life's not fair.
@ firebrand

Well at least we agree that the death penalty should be abolished.

In the U.K we abolished it in 1965 although some murderers of late don't deserve to breathe fresh air ever again but that's another subject.

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They only seem to consider methods that involve an element of cruelty. It's not enough to simply kill a man; it seems that the equipment used to do it must be designed to instil the maximum amount of terror in him as well. Just think of the gas chamber, the electric chair, and even the lethal injection, with all the straps and clunking apparatus. It's like they were deliberately designed to cause psychological torture before they actually kill the victim.
@harbottle

Hanging was always considered a quick and painless way to execute someone which was as you know the British method.

I agree there are far too many "choices" in the U.S. and not all that are totally successful. In modern society I find the death penalty totally abhorrent to be honest. No different than shooting a conscientious objector for refusing to fight during the war.
It's not a comparison, it was a questioning of how people can reconcile having those two conflicting attitudes. It's as if in order to be able to live with their more barbaric tendencies, people have to balance them out with over sentimental ones, so they can convince themselves they really are good people, after all.

As for crying over the death of a murderer, that's the wrong question. Why do you execute a murderer? Isn't it because to kill another human being in cold blood is the ultimate crime; the greatest wrong that can be commited? Isn't that why it is considered fitting that a murderer should receive the ultimate punishment?

How can a society claim to be civilised when it behaves in the same way as the people it condemns as the worst examples of humanity? It isn't about what the murderer deserves, it's about the rest of us being better than him; not becoming like him.
And who knows what will happen because in cyberspace more people favour the death penalty. It's a keyboard warrior thing. Being insulated from the sound of someone's voice nor having to look them in the eye instills a certain brutalist take on everything, the narcissism making it difficult to imagine how it feels to be the other.
USA no longer uses gas chamber.

there is Guantanamo Bay
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So would you be capable of killing another person, fantaziya. ?
So would you be capable of killing another person, fantaziya. ?

I would not. Why? It is job of Justice Department
I'm not keen on the idea of the state employing people who are capable of killing other people in cold blood. Possessing that ability would normally make a person unemployable.
Harb "I'm not keen on the idea of the state employing people who are capable of killing other people in cold blood"
I hear you. That's why when it comes to Justice, someone needs to do it. And do it professionally.
It will save other peoples lives including children
I find it barbaric, fantaziya, but that, of course, is no reason why you should. smile
Morning from the UK fantaziyawave

I agree with your points regards repeated crimes, and yes prisons are overcrowded and full of many undesirables. The World is full of some very "sick" people sadly.

My feelings regards the death penalty ? It's a personal opinion and just that ,and one that I can't change being a pacifist. It's equivalent to asking the executioner to do what the perpetrator has done .
Just as the state could execute him, the state could lock him up for the rest of his life.
You don't have to apologise. You are welcome to say whatever you like. smile
Thank you !

Time for a cup of tea! balloons
@ tanzaniya

No sugar in mine please.hug
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