When WW3 starts will Feminist disappear?
I look at what happened in Ukraine, where most of the Ukraine men 18 years and older stayed and engaged in the fight with Russia whereas a significant number of Ukraine women hightailed it out of Ukraine to party elsewhere, and so I have to believe the same thing will happen when the sheet hits the fan globally.Maybe I am wrong? Do feminist fight for equality or just advocate for what benefits them? For instance, have any Feminist lately fought for conscription equality?
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Jmo.
How many women are in the Ukrainian armed forces?
There are 40% more women serving in the Armed Forces of Ukraine than in 2021, and over the past 2 years, the number of women in the army has increased by 12,000. Now almost 43,000 servicewomen serve in the Ukrainian army, reports the country's Ministry of Defence.16 Oct 2023
Between 2010 and 2020, the total number of women employed in the Russian military fluctuated between 35,000 and 45,000. Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu stated in May 2020 that c. 41,000 women ( c. 4.26% of total active duty forces) were enlisted in the Russian Armed Forces.
In 2022, 11.4 per cent of the UK Regular Forces were Female (16,590 personnel).
In 2021, women made up 17.3% of the active-duty force, totalling 231,741 members; and 21.4% of the National Guard and reserves at 171,000 members. The year before, women made up 17.2% of the active-duty force and 21.1% of the Guard and reserve.
I'll leave you to look up the rest of the World.
Jmo.
How effective they would have been in actual Combat is another matter.
As for Transgenders,would they actually end up in Combat-situations,owing to their constant need for medical attention?
How many women are in the Ukrainian armed forces?
There are 40% more women serving in the Armed Forces of Ukraine than in 2021, and over the past 2 years, the number of women in the army has increased by 12,000. Now almost 43,000 servicewomen serve in the Ukrainian army, reports the country's Ministry of Defence.16 Oct 2023
Between 2010 and 2020, the total number of women employed in the Russian military fluctuated between 35,000 and 45,000. Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu stated in May 2020 that c. 41,000 women ( c. 4.26% of total active duty forces) were enlisted in the Russian Armed Forces.
In 2022, 11.4 per cent of the UK Regular Forces were Female (16,590 personnel).
In 2021, women made up 17.3% of the active-duty force, totalling 231,741 members; and 21.4% of the National Guard and reserves at 171,000 members. The year before, women made up 17.2% of the active-duty force and 21.1% of the Guard and reserve.
I'll leave you to look up the rest of the World.
Israel army is requiting 1500 women each year. For such a small and peaceful country that's a serious number.
Israel army is requiting 1500 women each year. For such a small and peaceful country that's a serious number.
How effective they would have been in actual Combat is another matter.
As for Transgenders,would they actually end up in Combat-situations,owing to their constant need for medical attention?
It's like dying and meeting up with the 40 promised virgins, only in 'fast forward' mode.
Of course women should be conscripted but preferably in admin, medical and non combative supportive rolls. Not as active infantry as I see happening more and more in Israel. Although I know of absolute merciless, fearless fighting female soldiers in parts Africa.
It's like dying and meeting up with the 40 promised virgins, only in 'fast forward' mode.
Of course women should be conscripted but preferably in admin, medical and non combative supportive rolls. Not as active infantry as I see happening more and more in Israel. Although I know of absolute merciless, fearless fighting female soldiers in parts Africa.
The average army has more people in administration or non-combatant roles than fighters. Makes sense to put the strongest and most skilled in the field, keep all the others hard at work being the best damn support they can be.
BTW - history lesson - at the Battle of Leuctra in 371 BC, the Sacred Army - 300 warriors - led the Theban army against the (at that time, unbeatable) Spartan army. The Thebans won and shattered the Spartan control of Greece. The Sacred Army was made up of 150 gay couples, because the folks of those unenlightened times knew that men fought harder to impress their peers, and hardest of all shoulder to shoulder with their partners. Almost makes sense.
A friend of mine, years ago, a Davis-cup tennis player, got a chance to play Billie-Jean King. (I did say years ago.) He guffawed and promised to go easy on her. She thrashed him effortlessly, 3 games in a row. I'm sure if a bee had flown onto the court she'd have flung down her racquet and run to his arms squeaking for help, sure. Or a spider, you betcha.
Actually, give him his due, his respect for her went through the roof.
I know war isn't tennis. But while my buddy could have thrashed me at tennis, playing left-handed I'm not all women. Would have thought you were old enough by now to have noticed not all women are identical? Not yet? Some would be a NIGHTMARE even in a pub fight,shrieking like banshees, although if it was a real rumble and turning ugly watch out for the women knocking the tops of bottles and joining in to protect their blokes ...
Ditto gays. Some you'd never know were "that way" at all, but you've seen the shrill ones swishing around going DAHling! and you're pretty sure they'd not last in a war. Too right! But not all gays are identical either. Whole world out there.
Anyway, as Luke already said, not everyone in an army is there to fight.
You do not address the problems I posed. Under real protracted combat stress men want men beside them.
Shall we go back to beginnings? The gorillas form packs with the males on the outside facing the world; the females take care of the kids. In human society it's more monogamous, but until recently men faced the world and women ruled the home (not a less daunting task. The recent attempt to rearrange that on the fiction of equality has been extremely damaging.
It is not a question of if they can do it; but should they.
There are plenty of Ukrainian men here.
And come on, 10 million people left Ukraine?
No, they didn't.
Zelensky is screwed.
The conflict is over.
There are plenty of Ukrainian men here.
And come on, 10 million people left Ukraine?
No, they didn't.
Zelensky is screwed.
The conflict is over.
But more than 3.5 millions moved to Russia. Strange to run in an agressor country
The only numbers I do know for sure. It use to be 52 million of population in Ukraine (during USSR).
Before february 2022 37.6 million and right now about 29 million.
As Biden said that fighting with Russia with Ukranian lives is a good investment
Let him and other like him to rot in hell.
The average army has more people in administration or non-combatant roles than fighters. Makes sense to put the strongest and most skilled in the field, keep all the others hard at work being the best damn support they can be.
BTW - history lesson - at the Battle of Leuctra in 371 BC, the Sacred Army - 300 warriors - led the Theban army against the (at that time, unbeatable) Spartan army. The Thebans won and shattered the Spartan control of Greece. The Sacred Army was made up of 150 gay couples, because the folks of those unenlightened times knew that men fought harder to impress their peers, and hardest of all shoulder to shoulder with their partners. Almost makes sense.
Every country should only have a Theban Army who will fight for the honor of its country. Because 'they' are renowned courageous soldiers the final outcome of that war should be accepted and respected by all countries concerned in that specific war. That way we shall know that the best possible effort from both sides were put in to win and of course the can only be one winner. I should put this idea forward to NATO and the UN
Berlin has said it will not deport Ukrainians into forced conscription for Kiev’s forces.
“We will not force people against their will into military conscription or military service. We are trying to ensure that more people from Ukraine go to work and do not live on benefits,” German Justice Minister Marco Buschmann told DPA.
As Biden said that fighting with Russia with Ukranian lives is a good investment
Let him and other like him to rot in hell.
Berlin has said it will not deport Ukrainians into forced conscription for Kiev’s forces.
“We will not force people against their will into military conscription or military service. We are trying to ensure that more people from Ukraine go to work and do not live on benefits,” German Justice Minister Marco Buschmann told DPA.
But more than 3.5 millions moved to Russia. Strange to run in an agressor country
The only numbers I do know for sure. It use to be 52 million of population in Ukraine (during USSR).
Before february 2022 37.6 million and right now about 29 million.
As Biden said that fighting with Russia with Ukranian lives is a good investment
Let him and other like him to rot in hell.
I am not surprised so many moved to Russia.
But the conflict gave quite a lot of Ukrainians the chance to escape to EU countries without any restrictions.
The corruption and dictatorship reality of the country blew up in the world's face when it all started.
Remember how many Ukrainian former and present politicians and "business" people were caught at the borders with millions in cash.
Even "ordinary" refugees showed and still showing a living standard beyond believe.
Most of those who left Ukraine did it to immigrate legally.
And yes, America is fighting with no soldiers of its own, a borrowed war with borrowed lives.
It will come back and bite their arse. One way or another.
World is already at war, just not called it.
Try entering a Country's National Air Space or Waters without Authorization. You get a Tomahawk missile shot at you.
Problem lays in you linking feminists to any war scenario. Or was that your intent? To cause gender friction.
To give people something to argue over while you sit back all innocent, back of the bus Jmo. W.
Although many women from Ukraine continue to raise their children or care for elderly relatives in places of safety, many women of Ukraine have since returned to Ukraine, Like Soviet women during WW2, thousands of them have joined the military of Ukraine. Others have taken (like Rosie the riveter in the US during WW2) up industrial jobs so as to free up male workers in critical industries to go fight, while also filling important behind the scene rear echelon jobs. Electricians, factory workers, warehouse workers, law enforcement and security, data specialists, etc.
A second false premise is that when this war escalates, i.e., goes nuclear, that there would be a magical safe country to flee to. No, there won't be. It won't matter if you move to the Falkland isles, or Nepal, either way the Fallout will come and it will (again) be a time of great lament.
Some countries have a mandatory service for every citizen, China and N. Korea for instance, Neither Russia nor Ukraine have seen the need to do so. Putin has however in speech urged each Russian woman to bear 8 children for the Motherland, but very probably only a few women there will voluntarily destroy themselves that way. However, neither Russia nor Ukraine feels it is time for their women to be conscripted as front line soldiers. Russian women soldiers who volunteer to serve are usually rear echelon clerks or radio operators and many have never even held much less fired a service rifle. Ukraine however allows front line service and thousands of Ukraine';s women soldiers are in their front ranks happily killing Orc invaders. As they are sometimes better at it than their male counterparts (especially as snipers and drone operators) this will probably bolster women's equality and leadership opportunities there.
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