There's no fool like an old fool ( Archived) (87)

Nov 21, 2009 3:04 AM CST There's no fool like an old fool
solsticemoon
solsticemoonsolsticemoonjavea, Valencia Spain64 Threads 4,504 Posts
Medsummer09: "I wasn't kidding when I earlier said that I am not afraid to be happy, but am afraid of plummeting and not being able to climb back up again. This man would have taken me to such a place and it scared me."

The thing about plummeting is whether or not you hit at the bottom or take control of your fall to swoop upwards into the sky where none can follow you.
You've taken control by your action and there may be some thunderstorms in the clouds you know the sun is going to shine on you.


I thought you were in France?
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Nov 21, 2009 3:04 AM CST There's no fool like an old fool
OOps, hit send too quiock, Jlb, I totally understand and have been thru simular, and I know the feeling of Knowing it isnt right, I think in a short time, you will overcome this, because you know it isnt right, and accept it, Walk along Dear Friend, And Wait For the Love that you need, Thats what I am doing as well... Just Let Time find Your Match..... I admire that you realise the Truth!teddybear teddybear hug sad flower
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Nov 21, 2009 3:24 AM CST There's no fool like an old fool
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
jlb684: Awwww, maybe I do indeed need a good slap.
Riding it out is not a good option for me. I would be riding and riding and riding and then, eventually, the horse would throw me off. I decided it was better to just stop the ride and get off as safely as possible now.
Martyr? Hmmmm...well, I understand why you said that, but it's not really the case. It's self-protection, not martyrdom. If I gave you all the details, all the information, about why this was destined to end eventually, I think you'd understand (or, maybe you would). But I'm not going to go into all of the details. Suffice it to say that I have no doubt in my mind that it would end one day. I just couldn't go deeper. I wasn't kidding when I earlier said that I am not afraid to be happy, but am afraid of plummeting and not being able to climb back up again. This man would have taken me to such a place and it scared me.

Hugs to you, too, Solstice.



Sending you hugs ... can emphasize with you... It does hurt deeply, and it takes a while to let go... but for now, acknowledge what you are feeling, it helps...
hug hug hug hug sad flower
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Nov 21, 2009 8:51 AM CST There's no fool like an old fool
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
jlb684: You quoted Markizamkd25, but you said "you're a long time dead." I'm not sure if you meant your comment for her or for me, but I'll answer your question, anyway...
Was I afraid to be happy? Not in the least. I was afraid of plummeting and not being able to climb back up again.


That's sort of like saying, I'm not afraid of flying! I'm afraid of plummeting into the ground. It's semantics!We all get afraid later in life after we've been hurt a few times. But do we give up or get back up on the bicycle again? It really is our own choice. By the way, incase I'm coming over as a knowitall, I'm not good at this kind of thing myself but I lick my wounds for a while and try again.conversing
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Nov 21, 2009 12:19 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
Nina3
Nina3Nina3Barcelona, Catalonia Spain16 Threads 3 Polls 919 Posts
jlb684: He was just too young for me. Yet I fell for him and found myself becoming more and more crazy about him. Love??? How the hell do I know. I only know that I adored him.
So I ended it.

Damn, it hurts like hell.

It was probably the smart thing to do, but emotionally I am a wreck right now.

Only myself to blame.



I can understand how you are feeling - and good job putting it in writing here, and getting some of it out!

bouquet
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Nov 21, 2009 3:39 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
Medsummer09
Medsummer09Medsummer09Nice, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France35 Threads 7 Polls 585 Posts
solsticemoon: I thought you were in France?


Yes and no, I'm leaving for the states tomorrow morning to surprise dear sweet Mom for the great American holidaze. Be there until 1st week of Dec. Next year it will probably say Spain, Netherlands, Sweden and Norway...not sure yet about those! Thanks for peeking! grin
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Nov 21, 2009 5:24 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
amelie13
amelie13amelie13Sydney, New South Wales Australia16 Threads 3 Polls 327 Posts
jlb684: He was just too young for me. Yet I fell for him and found myself becoming more and more crazy about him. Love??? How the hell do I know. I only know that I adored him.
So I ended it.

Damn, it hurts like hell.

It was probably the smart thing to do, but emotionally I am a wreck right now.

Only myself to blame.


Love is not something you can plan....thank goodness. If it were, everyone would be in love with Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie and none of the rest of us would get a look in.

Seriously, good on you for taking the romantic plunge with this guy. I'm sure it was tons of fun & you know, unless you are prepared to feel a little foolish sometimes, what is life for? I wonder how he feels.....perhaps just as upset as you. Did you break it off because of his age, or because he didn't return your strong feelings? Don't be surprised if you hear from him.
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Nov 21, 2009 5:38 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
jlb684: I've read the responses that came in while I was sleeping....or, attempting to sleep.
Some wonder why I ended it when it was going so well...others understand completely. Ending it now has made me miserable...I ate nothing all day yesterday and have no appetite for anything yet today; I cried on and off for hours and every time I awoke during the night. Had I continued to see him, I would go through this eventually (there is no doubt, for the age difference and life circumstances are really too much to overcome), but I believe it would have been even worse than it is now. I saw two options: Hurt now or hurt later. I chose to take it now and to hopefully start the healing process soon. Not everyone will understand this, but this was what I felt I needed to do. It doesn't make it less painful in the least; it just gets it over with sooner than it was destined to be.
As for him, he was a bit surprised, but he gets it, too. He felt much like I did...it was such a shame that we were not closer in age. And to those who say age is not important, I would have to disagree a bit. Two people can love each other with years between them, but I had to ask myself if there was potential for a future, and I knew inside that there was not. He knew as well. It's that simple, and yet that complicated and painful.

Writing this to all of you is a bit of a catharsis for me. I don't mean to ramble on and bore you, nor am I seeking sympathy. Writing is my passion and it is my way of releasing my burdens and my feelings, when there is nobody nearby to release them to.
I hope you understand.


I guess my main question, Athens, is what purpose you saw this planned-obsolescent relationship serving for you? confused dunno hug
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Nov 21, 2009 5:45 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
Thalassa
ThalassaThalassaRome, Lazio Italy104 Threads 2,410 Posts
Ambrose2007: I guess my main question, Athens, is what purpose you saw this planned-obsolescent relationship serving for you?


Had I made a move for him...seeing him and honing in and flirting and going after him, I could see why you would question this. But this wasn't the case. It was simply 2 people who ended up next to each other one evening, having known each other only very slightly up until then, and in our immediate proximity, we talked. For hours. I didn't see the relationship, it just happened. It evolved, it developed, and it wasn't planned obsolescence...or even planned at all. It was a journey that I took when I just happened upon a road I hadn't intended to be on. Once on that road, the ride was glorious (no pun intended), but I had to get back on the right path before I got lost.
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Nov 21, 2009 5:46 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
Thalassa
ThalassaThalassaRome, Lazio Italy104 Threads 2,410 Posts
jlb684: Had I made a move for him...seeing him and honing in and flirting and going after him, I could see why you would question this. But this wasn't the case. It was simply 2 people who ended up next to each other one evening, having known each other only very slightly up until then, and in our immediate proximity, we talked. For hours. I didn't see the relationship, it just happened. It evolved, it developed, and it wasn't planned obsolescence...or even planned at all. It was a journey that I took when I just happened upon a road I hadn't intended to be on. Once on that road, the ride was glorious (no pun intended), but I had to get back on the right path before I got lost.


Seek.
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Nov 21, 2009 5:51 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
Iseult_1
Iseult_1Iseult_1Baile Atha Claith, Dublin Ireland3 Threads 1 Polls 325 Posts
....your not a fool...... when we get older we do get wiser ... but still do it anyway.... the difference is our eyes are wide open. You were brave to get involved with him and even braver to end it.... Still allow yourself to adore him and time will do its thing..... x
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Nov 21, 2009 6:05 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
bay163
bay163bay163san mateo, California USA8 Threads 4 Polls 991 Posts
Well, seeing you sit in the chair with your face in your hand and reading the story I think I know your feeling, to me the problem is you just cut it off so fast, maybe you should have just ramped things back to seeing him once a week.
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Nov 21, 2009 6:18 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
jlb684: Had I made a move for him...seeing him and honing in and flirting and going after him, I could see why you would question this. But this wasn't the case. It was simply 2 people who ended up next to each other one evening, having known each other only very slightly up until then, and in our immediate proximity, we talked. For hours. I didn't see the relationship, it just happened. It evolved, it developed, and it wasn't planned obsolescence...or even planned at all. It was a journey that I took when I just happened upon a road I hadn't intended to be on. Once on that road, the ride was glorious (no pun intended), but I had to get back on the right path before I got lost.


Jeffrey...surely you're not claiming that your relationship didn't proceed as a result of your own choices all along the way?dunno Lacking an ironclad plan or a clear initial intention doesn't dispute that, does it? You chose to develop the relationship, knowing its expiration date.

So the question remains: What did you hope to gain from it?

(I'm not trying to bust your balls, A. But this is a question that begs to be answered, doesn't it?)hug
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Nov 21, 2009 6:27 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
Jan1305
Jan1305Jan1305Sunshine and vino, Murcia Spain170 Threads 5,319 Posts
Ambrose2007: Jeffrey...surely you're not claiming that your relationship didn't proceed as a result of your own choices all along the way? Lacking an ironclad plan or a clear initial intention doesn't dispute that, does it? You chose to develop the relationship, knowing its expiration date.

So the question remains: What did you hope to gain from it?

(I'm not trying to bust your balls, A. But this is a question that begs to be answered, doesn't it?)


Ambrose, sometimes two people become involved without any real planning or aforethought you know.

Often out of loneliness, the most unlikely couples attract and cling on to each other. Then reality sets in, though I´m not suggesting that´s the case here, and I´ve never experienced such a relationship, so I´m probably not best equipped to give an opinion truth be told.
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Nov 21, 2009 6:45 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
Thalassa
ThalassaThalassaRome, Lazio Italy104 Threads 2,410 Posts
Ambrose2007: Jeffrey...surely you're not claiming that your relationship didn't proceed as a result of your own choices all along the way? Lacking an ironclad plan or a clear initial intention doesn't dispute that, does it? You chose to develop the relationship, knowing its expiration date.

So the question remains: What did you hope to gain from it?

(I'm not trying to bust your balls, A. But this is a question that begs to be answered, doesn't it?)


Well, Ambrose, you're being direct, as always, and so shall I be. What I hoped to gain was, I suppose, a bit of joy in an otherwise routine existence. I hoped to gain the company of a man who really cared about me, which was evident early on. I hoped to gain something that many people enjoy in life that I've been craving. I hoped to gain the laughter of a shared private joke, a wink now and then, phone calls in the evenings when we weren't together, weekend plans being made, someone to want to cook a meal for....I could go on and on.
Yes, I know what your point is and I know what you are asking me, but you have someone in your life, have had for awhile, and haven't been without someone special to care for in a long time. Do you even remember what it feels like to be alone for a long time? You've known me here for quite some time now and you know I've had relationships that haven't worked out for me, but this one really hit me hard. I realized today that I haven't had this gut-wrenching feeling for over 10 years, and this is because I haven't cared so deeply in all this time. It wasn't just a matter of filling a void; it turned out that there was so much more.
If you're hungry and you need protein and vegetables and fruits, but someone offers you a big piece of cheesecake....even though you know it's not the best thing for you...wouldn't you go for it? I was hungry, J. I still am, but I ate the cheesecake and it felt damned good at the time. Now I've just got a stomach ache.

The only other way to answer your question is to say that I hoped to gain great sorrow and a renewed sense of loss and emptiness. But do you really think this is the case?
hug
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Nov 21, 2009 6:51 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
feathersteve
featherstevefeatherstevescarborough, North Yorkshire, England UK4 Threads 2,532 Posts
you have mail jlb684
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Nov 21, 2009 6:56 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
Abram
AbramAbramGoshen, Ohio USA9 Threads 2,077 Posts
Nov 21, 2009 7:26 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
GrammarGirl
GrammarGirlGrammarGirlSouthwestern, Manitoba Canada1 Threads 76 Posts
jlb684:
If you're hungry and you need protein and vegetables and fruits, but someone offers you a big piece of cheesecake....even though you know it's not the best thing for you...wouldn't you go for it? I was hungry, J. I still am, but I ate the cheesecake and it felt damned good at the time. Now I've just got a stomach ache.


Wonderful analogy, Athens.

Don’t cry because it’s over. Smile because it happened.
– Dr. Seuss

Take care.
hug
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Nov 21, 2009 7:38 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
itsallme112
itsallme112itsallme112Surrey, British Columbia Canada78 Threads 11 Polls 441 Posts
I been there too. Even though I was aware of the age difference I convinced myself it was real love. In the end I let go after a few months. Hurt like hell but I think it's the right thing. Our love is frozen in time with both having fond memories.
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Nov 21, 2009 7:40 PM CST There's no fool like an old fool
amelie13
amelie13amelie13Sydney, New South Wales Australia16 Threads 3 Polls 327 Posts
jlb684: Well, Ambrose, you're being direct, as always, and so shall I be. What I hoped to gain was, I suppose, a bit of joy in an otherwise routine existence. I hoped to gain the company of a man who really cared about me, which was evident early on. I hoped to gain something that many people enjoy in life that I've been craving. I hoped to gain the laughter of a shared private joke, a wink now and then, phone calls in the evenings when we weren't together, weekend plans being made, someone to want to cook a meal for....I could go on and on.


jlb, your pain is universal. If there is only one thing we all have in common, it's that we all know what its like to have loved and lost. We generally pine more for the people we perceive we can't have.

Having read the whole thread, I guess I'm wondering something - with kindness, does this guy deserve the pedestal you seem to have put him on? I don't know you, but you seem like an intelligent, eloquent woman with her whole life ahead of her. I appreciate your feelings for this guy as you mourn the end of this relationship but when you close your eyes and imagine Mr Right, is it him that you honestly see?

If it is, damn the age difference and the social perception and go get him. If it's not, any more time you spent with him would have prevented you from meeting the person you are meant to be with. I've learned the hard way that Mr Right or even Mr-Right-for-now never makes you cry yourself to sleep at night. Never.

Take care.
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