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Aug 18, 2010 5:45 PM CST Priorities...
Amity
AmityAmityDodging Daggers, Wiltshire, England UK49 Threads 6,217 Posts
Ambrose2007: 1) My own life

2) My love

3) Children

4) Family


you value your own life and love before your children?
Ok thumbs up
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Aug 18, 2010 5:46 PM CST Priorities...
opentuit
opentuitopentuitKnoxville, Tennessee USA14 Threads 2 Polls 2,014 Posts
StressFree: Edited for Ambrose



laugh laugh rolling on the floor laughing Wow-- you are a real friend!
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Aug 18, 2010 5:47 PM CST Priorities...
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
Amity: I agree with this...priorities can change under circumstances at the time


They sure can, and after I made my last post, I kind of shifted and went with my kids as number one. You know, this discussion can get really philosophical laugh I mean, socializing with friends and family is a great way to take care of your emotional health, and to me, my emotional health comes first before my physical health. So that's why I exercise a lot since that is part of the whole in maintaining a healthy state-of-being. And to further complicate this formula, I need to be alone sometimes to take care of me, so friends and other family members may get cut off if I really need that time---but not the kids.

I guess we all have our own set of priorities. Hmmmm, I'm sure a woman in my life would surely alter my priority list in many ways hahaha.
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Aug 18, 2010 5:48 PM CST Priorities...
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Ambrose2007: 1) My own life

2) My love

3) Children

4) Family


As Tony has pointed out (and you agreed, Amity), one's priorities might change depending on circumstances.

In my case, however, this would've been my list even as a young family man. Of other people, my wife came first. She, however, placed our children first. That's a very popular choice, but my belief is that one's romantic relationship is primary - that one's spouse should be valued above all others.

I once asked my aunt how she felt about that (she'd had a loving relationship with my uncle for many decades, until he died of cancer). She has four daughters which she utterly dotes on. She answered without hesitation that "her man" was the most important person in her life. My kind of lady (in that respect, at leastuh oh laugh).
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Aug 18, 2010 5:50 PM CST Priorities...
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Amity: We all have priorities in life, some more important than others.

If you had to number these priorities in order what would they be?


My children
My children
My children
My children

Eventhough they are gown ups independet and happy persons!!!
(my parents are not in this world any more)

Myself, I am fine, happy, content with my life!
....

wine
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Aug 18, 2010 5:51 PM CST Priorities...
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
opentuit: Wow-- you are a real friend!


I fear his wrath and I would never jeopardize our man love without editing my screwed up English when it happens! Oddly enough, I just read my last post, and there were more grammatical errorslaugh Lack of sleep imo---neurons are not processing properlyyawn
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Aug 18, 2010 5:51 PM CST Priorities...
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
StressFree: They sure can, and after I made my last post, I kind of shifted and went with my kids as number one. You know, this discussion can get really philosophical I mean, socializing with friends and family is a great way to take care of your emotional health, and to me, my emotional health comes first before my physical health. So that's why I exercise a lot since that is part of the whole in maintaining a healthy state-of-being. And to further complicate this formula, I need to be alone sometimes to take care of me, so friends and other family members may get cut off if I really need that time---but not the kids.

I guess we all have our own set of priorities. Hmmmm, I'm sure a woman in my life would surely alter my priority list in many ways hahaha.


head banger beer
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Aug 18, 2010 5:57 PM CST Priorities...
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
Raven0: At this point in time my priorities are
1) saving money
2) finding a new job for when I move
3) finding a decent place to live
4) saving money
5) finding troooo luuuuuuuv
6) #5 is optional


handshake good girl
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Aug 18, 2010 5:57 PM CST Priorities...
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Amity: you value your own life and love before your children?
Ok


I think everyone does - ultimately (perhaps not as a young mother), Amity. Your children grow up and assume their own lives eventually - which includes valuing others (their spouse and children) more highly than they value you. I'm guessing you haven't got that far yet (and probably aren't even imagining it).

In any case, if you don't love yourself first, you can't love anyone else. It's from your love of your own life that all other love stems (yada, yada - but true).

That's not to say that you - or I - wouldn't willingly sacrifice (or risk sacrificing) your life to save your children or wife or even other family members.

What I'm getting at is that the central purpose in one's life - ultimately - is not one's children. Perhaps during a certain phase of one's life, but not ultimately. Ultimately, you will have to stand more or less solely on your own (or with your mate). Your children will be following their own lives. Such is the natural order of things. To continue to make them the number one priority would be to confute that order, I think.

wine
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Aug 18, 2010 5:57 PM CST Priorities...
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
Ambrose2007: my belief is that one's romantic relationship is primary - that one's spouse should be valued above all others.


Okay, I'll take the bait. Why exactly J? Just curious and I am not judging here.

Also, generally speaking, do you think that women are more than likely to place their kids at the top of the priority list as opposed to men?
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Aug 18, 2010 6:03 PM CST Priorities...
0ne0faKind
0ne0faKind0ne0faKinddublin, Dublin Ireland26 Threads 390 Posts
1.) My Kids (just cos I'm a mother)
2.) My Health (cos without it, I'd be useless)
3.) My Job (cos without it I would have no money, no security, no home)
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Aug 18, 2010 6:04 PM CST Priorities...
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
Amity: you value your own life and love before your children?
Ok


This obsession with our children and their well being is a fairly new phenomenon, almost to the point of hysteria during the last decade or so.
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Aug 18, 2010 6:05 PM CST Priorities...
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
StressFree: Okay, I'll take the bait. Why exactly J? Just curious and I am not judging here.

Also, generally speaking, do you think that women are more than likely to place their kids at the top of the priority list as opposed to men?


Well, in reply to your first, T, it's basically because in the end you and your mate are the central pillars in your life (given that you have a mate). Your children will have gone on and formed their own independent lives. They won't be living for (or about) you, and neither should you live for or about them.

Of course I know that at this point, my friend, you have no one who can compete with your love for your children. But, as you've pointed out, conditions can change. I'm sure you can imagine, given your capacious imagination, the day coming when your two (adorable!) kids are busy with their own lives, and at that point, for you to make them your #1 priority might constitute interference more than a loving relationship. Try a thought-experiment on that and I'll bet you'll see what I mean.

I suspect strongly that women are more likely to list their children as their highest value. But I also suspect that probably changes with time (depending on whether they are alone in the later years).

You know the cliche of the interfering older mom in the lives of their children? That's what happens when one keeps one's children as one's highest priority/value in later life. It's really not a pretty picture, is it? hmmm wine
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Aug 18, 2010 6:06 PM CST Priorities...
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
bodleing: This obsession with our children and their well being is a fairly new phenomenon, almost to the point of hysteria during the last decade or so.


What about you and your hound, G? scold laugh cheers
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Aug 18, 2010 6:08 PM CST Priorities...
diogenes
diogenesdiogenesLongview, Texas USA69 Threads 7 Polls 4,761 Posts
StressFree: Okay, I'll take the bait. Why exactly J? Just curious and I am not judging here.

Also, generally speaking, do you think that women are more than likely to place their kids at the top of the priority list as opposed to men?


laugh

I was thinking almost exactly that, when I started reading this thread.

daydream Women always say kids are their number one priority. I thought...They are almost required to say that by thier gender roles, or Feminine Mystique, or whatever you call it, or they're somehow not a good person if they don't. They'll even say that even when it seems obvious to others that their actions suggest otherwise.

At least that's what I was thinking, when I noticed that a couple of ladies didn't even mention kids, in thier lists.

laugh

Shows what I know!
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Aug 18, 2010 6:10 PM CST Priorities...
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
ambrose is right

the primary relationship
the foundation of the household must be sturdy

i mean sure many partnerships are faulty or worse- but we are all only talking generally pretty much

so yes the couple who care for and model behavior for
the children



when i was a mom w/ young ones i made them the priority but there is a difference in priority and primary

single parents can become inappropriately involved with their children

i know this is an unpopular topic so i am not uncomfortable speaking only about myself and admitting my mistakes

i learned that sometimes single moms rely on their kids for allll of their emotional and social life.

i know i did. as the kids got older it was really inappropriate for a few reasons- and i was adrift and almost resentful, but certainly my feelings were hurt when they began to develop properly and build little lives for themselves-as they should from about age 11 on

i participated in counseling because of the imbalance my well meaning love caused- and they came too and were given permission to understand their feelings and for me to get mt self right.

also as a young woman in recovery from addictive behavior davpk hit it on the head

it is a selfish program-if we dont take care of us we cant give anything of quality away-i dont care how well meaning we are.
if we have any destructive behaviors borne of any degree of self loathing we cannot truly give a message to children about self love and we are where they will consciously or unconsciously learn allllll they operate from

what we model-the spoken and the unspoken is the information they get. i have learned many hard lessons.

but we are all survived so fardunno
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Aug 18, 2010 6:11 PM CST Priorities...
DodgeBabe
DodgeBabeDodgeBabepotsdam, New York USA31 Threads 2,299 Posts
bodleing: This obsession with our children and their well being is a fairly new phenomenon, almost to the point of hysteria during the last decade or so.


I agree, G.

I truely believe that one's own health and wellbeing has to come first.

Thats actually being unselfish, and not selfish, because to be the best parent one can, you have to be fit, well, happy and balanced, in my opinion. A sick parent is of no benefit whatsoever to a child.

wine
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Aug 18, 2010 6:14 PM CST Priorities...
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
maybe all i mean to say is that i made my kids my priority really and in a good healthy way when i made myself my priority

i am so glad i didnt teach my daughter that the only way to love someone is to sacrifice yourself

cuz i dont want her treating herself that way

that attitude permeates everything- what we will tolerate in a job or in a friendship or love relationship

thank god i started learning to be well by the last kids arrival

one seems to be starting adulthood healthy while the older ones, despite my best intentions are 30 and trying to undo their misinformation so they can be peaceful and appropriate in relationships

blues

the best thing is -today we can all talk about it and they know i went from sick to well-ish-
they were there and saw it
so they do take a bit of advice while they seek their own balance because they know i knowdunno
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Aug 18, 2010 6:15 PM CST Priorities...
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
diogenes: I was thinking almost exactly that, when I started reading this thread.

Women always say kids are their number one priority. I thought...They are almost required to say that by thier gender roles, or Feminine Mystique, or whatever you call it, or they're somehow not a good person if they don't. They'll even say that even when it seems obvious to others that their actions suggest otherwise.

At least that's what I was thinking, when I noticed that a couple of ladies didn't even mention kids, in thier lists.



Shows what I know!


if we are 'right' it follows naturally that the kids will be also


hiiiiiii youwave hug
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Aug 18, 2010 6:18 PM CST Priorities...
diogenes
diogenesdiogenesLongview, Texas USA69 Threads 7 Polls 4,761 Posts
mindfful: if we are 'right' it follows naturally that the kids will be alsohiiiiiii you


wave

Heya Sis!
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