COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ? ( Archived) (480)

Sep 12, 2010 5:34 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
Conrad73: But before that change happens,the Blamegame starts,and the Citizens get screwed over once again

As it happened after every failed 5-Year plan in the USSR!
Citizens were told they hadn't worked hard enough (For the Party-Parasites) thus sabotaged the wellbeing of the Stae,mind you,the State,not the People,THE STATE!
Yet we still have some *********** who wold like to resurrect a System like that,claiming,if they just were given the power,they could make it work!
How many more of our Best are we going to feed to those Swine?


Marxism, once you undress it of its hippy trimmings is just banditry and plunder. Always those that fall for romanticism though, same reason why obama got in.
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Sep 12, 2010 5:35 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
Olsojente
OlsojenteOlsojenteOslo/Zadar, Oslo Norway51 Threads 5 Polls 5,070 Posts
robsantiago15: Socialist Democracy.



Geez, I think I live in one of those...uh oh




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Sep 12, 2010 5:36 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
WhatUwish4: Sh## honey, he's gone...


As for the idealism? What's left if we have nothing to aspire to?


I'm glad to hear it.wink

Nothing wrong with aspirations.. tangible ones that is, otherwise we're talking false dreams and Obama territory all over again.
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Sep 12, 2010 5:38 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
chris27292729: Always thought Free-Enterprise and goverment are interwined.- Are they not???


Well let's just look at Obamacare for a minute. Doctors, hospitals, insurers, high tech providers, and PEOPLE, are now subject to total government control. Where is the free enterprise now?

Not to nention that it's a fiscal nightmare. Obamacare does not follow any successful, existing model. It does not even resemble one. They still haven't figured out what it will cost or where they can get the money next. Did you know that they are now taxing the sale of your house to pay for Obamacare? This, on top of increasing our premiums, increasing our taxes, increasing employer taxes and taxes to insurers. And still, they don't have the money to pay for it.

Is this sensible to you? To take over the entire health care industry and not have a clue how to make it financially feasible?
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Sep 12, 2010 5:39 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
Olsojente: Geez, I think I live in one of those...
But you got OIL!rolling on the floor laughing

And every Citizen there has Stock in that Enterprise.grin
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Sep 12, 2010 5:39 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
TrueBlue1986: I'm glad to hear it.

Nothing wrong with aspirations.. tangible ones that is, otherwise we're talking false dreams and Obama territory all over again.


It's whatIwish4
laugh laugh laugh

Sorry. Bad joke
doh blushing
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Sep 12, 2010 5:40 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
LucieLynn: Obama did the worst thing with this health care scam. Look. I pay for health insurance. Three hundred dollars a month for my daughter and myself. Guess what? Now that Obama has done this my monthly insurance will cost me about five hundred dollars a month. Thanks, Obama, you stupid jerk. Now millions more American will lose their jobs because companies cannot cover those hiked up expenses and benefits. Whose going to pay this health care scam again? The workers remaining that still have jobs. Nothing is free.


Sorry for the empty post. Was going to totally agree with you...
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Sep 12, 2010 5:41 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
LucieLynn
LucieLynnLucieLynnSaint Joseph, Missouri USA78 Posts
"As it is written, kapitalisme will destroy itself...."

No, it's not capitalism causing this problem - it is the government forcing hospitals (aka businesses) to treat people for free. Then the insurances have to hike up their rates to make deals with hospitals to help cover government socialistic mandates. We didn't have these problems before stupid President Roosevelt.
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Sep 12, 2010 5:42 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
Olsojente
OlsojenteOlsojenteOslo/Zadar, Oslo Norway51 Threads 5 Polls 5,070 Posts
Conrad73: But you got OIL!

And every Citizen there has Stock in that Enterprise.



Oh, I forgot... grin



I heard it's running out...moping



Hope all is well, C! wave
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Sep 12, 2010 5:45 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
I did not proposed no robbery,i proposed redistribution.-If a rich person needs 1 million to live comfortable all year around,why has to earn million annually???
Conrad73: So you propose Robbery?
After you tie the people up with laws!
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Sep 12, 2010 5:46 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Sorry earn millions annually
chris27292729: I did not proposed no robbery,i proposed redistribution.-If a rich person needs 1 million to live comfortable all year around,why has to earn million annually???
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Sep 12, 2010 5:49 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
Bulll: You have to be a kapitalist to understand you, to get to a goal as a Marxist, you just have to been human.
The question was what do you need as a person to be happy ?
Well it shore aint the proffesors crappy jokes.


You talk as if Communism isn't about greed and materialism, but it sells the illusion that everyone can be(and should be)middle class and live that lifestyle, it doesn't get any more materialistic than that.
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Sep 12, 2010 5:50 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Yes in 1789 the rich,ignored the hungry masses,and am sure you know what happened to them.-wave
Conrad73: You got to be kidding!
State-Sanctioned Robbery!
And you wonder why the Rich don't create any new Jobs!
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Sep 12, 2010 5:53 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
We live in stracture societies, we don't live alone.wave
WhatUwish4: The wealthy redistribute their wealth all the time. Even the middle class redistribute their wealth all the time. But whenever the government comes in and says IT'S going to redistribute the wealth, all that happens it they take the money and only give back a tiny fraction. We are better off taking care of our own.
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Sep 12, 2010 5:54 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
chris27292729: Yes in 1789 the rich,ignored the hungry masses,and am sure you know what happened to them.-


Well I know that in 1789 the US Constitution went into effect, George Washington was inaugurated as President in New York, the First United States Congress passed the Judiciary Act of 1789.

But I have a feeling you weren't talking about that, were you?
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Sep 12, 2010 5:54 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
chris27292729: We live in stracture societies, we don't live alone.


And what is your point please?
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Sep 12, 2010 5:55 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
TrueBlue1986
TrueBlue1986TrueBlue1986Sale, South Manchester, Cheshire, England UK1,322 Posts
WhatUwish4: It's whatIwish4


Sorry. Bad joke


Don't worry, the rest of the thread's hardly a laugh a minute. laugh
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Sep 12, 2010 5:56 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
Bulll
BulllBulllRoosendaal, North Brabant Netherlands1 Threads 58 Posts
The world has globelist have a look for international health care insurances
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Sep 12, 2010 5:59 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Bulll: The world has globelist have a look for international health care insurances


Sounds like "someone" is cooking up a real get-rich-quick scheme.
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Sep 12, 2010 6:00 PM CST COMMUNISME OR KAPITALISME ?
Bulll
BulllBulllRoosendaal, North Brabant Netherlands1 Threads 58 Posts
TrueBlue1986: You talk as if Communism isn't about greed and materialism, but it sells the illusion that everyone can be(and should be)middle class and live that lifestyle, it doesn't get any more materialistic than that.

Does that scare you ?
If everyone has the same as you, a good shelter, food, schooling, sports, health care and a society that is focused on well being of others, what else would we have to talk about.
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