murny: Conrad, is it even possible for you to address the point at hand? I'm not sure if I have ever read a thought that was your own - you always deflect and distract. The evidence is there - experiments are still being done and we need to stand up in defense of our fellow human beings. People are waking up, Conrad, your approach is ineffectual....
Look at the SOURCES that this journalist cited. It doesn't matter that you haven't heard of a particular journalist. Unless of course it is info provided by the government or mainstream media, then of course it is ALWAYS the truth!
murny: Look at the SOURCES that this journalist cited. It doesn't matter that you haven't heard of a particular journalist. Unless of course it is info provided by the government or mainstream media, then of course it is ALWAYS the truth!
Okay, I'll talk REALLY REALLY slow so maybe you will understand. Actually, keep going the way you are, no one takes you seriously because of it. LOOK AT THE REFERENCES AT THE END OF THE ARTICLE. Look into my eyes - stay on topic, Conrad. There are reports from universities and organizations that are well-known that are cited. Any questions? Oh, and just because you didn't hear of this particular person before, of course they don't exist, is that what you are saying? WHATEVER! Whoever it was that quoted these sources, you should still look at the message, not attack the messenger. As in, look at the sources and verify them, not get hung up on WHO quoted them. There you go again. Might want to try a different approach. You know, any propagandist worth their salt should know all this already. I think they should fire you.
Boban1: Liberals , Democrats, Conservatives ,Republicans ... thats all just a farce , just one more tool in the workshop of dragging attention like the old Romans said " panem et circenses" bread and circus
Serbians were so kind to the Muslims in Kosovo. To the ethnic groups of Bosnia. In the 1990s, that they are still trying to rebuild their houses. If anyone knows a circus maximus, it was Milosovic that would take them up into a Mountian complex for flag waving.
ttom500: Serbians were so kind to the Muslims in Kosovo. To the ethnic groups of Bosnia. In the 1990s, that they are still trying to rebuild their houses. If anyone knows a circus maximus, it was Milosovic that would take them up into a Mountian complex for flag waving.
Im glad you liked Milosevic, Im not quite a fan of his
I am not going to debate the studies and the testing done, Murny. They happened most often before clinical controls were put on medical testing. Just a guestion. How many lives did these preliminary human studies save or effect positively?
Someone had to be first for radiation treatment after the Manhattan project. Today radiation treatments are a major cancer treatment. 1000 receive it annually, today.
Prior to medical controls for human testing, they found test subjects were they could find them.
Back in early 1970s, they had a conference on human genetics breakthru and studies that were going on. They suspended genetic research for nearly 4 years. Trying to get a handle on the ethnic issues associated.
The conference did set some ethnic guidelines and protocol for human testing. But today we are still in the stem cell debate, the human life creation debate, the embryo debate....all from dNA breakthrus. And you got to know that the Human Genome project was used to improve chemical and biologic weapons. At least that is why the US did not license or sell the research to the WARSAW block countries.
Seems to me, that medical research can find ways around any state laws or international protocols made.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
murny: Like I said, thank you!
And like I said, it's a question. If you are thanking me because you cannot understand it then no problem as it comes as no surprise however, methinks you don't answer it because it may jeopardize your position.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
BellaTheRebel48: Not one of those who were carrying on about my airing the dirty laundry list of U.S. would trade places with the people the U.S. INTENTIONALLY INFECTED WITH GONORRHEA AND SYPHILIS!!
That was fifty years ago dear. Since then, the US does nothing of the kind. Sure, you have vaccines being tested and such but no massive deliberate infection of people. And your linking to criminals who are being brought to trial for their crimes and pretending this is official policy is laughable.
Albertaghost: And like I said, it's a question. If you are thanking me because you cannot understand it then no problem as it comes as no surprise however, methinks you don't answer it because it may jeopardize your position.
I addressed the forum subject about continued testing on Americans. by the US. You, of course, having no way to deny some good solid evidence that it is indeed still going on (yes, people are being deliberately exposed to chemicals, biological agents, etc etc etc), has nothing to do with soldiers who allegedly did things to people. It is completely beside the point,and typical of propagandists such as yourself to distract from the subject at hand.
LILLYLADY: Further research on the Gulf War Syndrome from Desert Storm says that the problems affecting the soldiers were caused from chemical toxic agents within the middleast that Saddam was using, including residues of nerve gas. The pyridostigmine was given to the troops to combat the effects of possible low level exposure to nerve gas.
The WW2 drug you speak of was called BZ for short.It was experimented on some US troops to get them to be more aggressive and last longer in battle. Very mind altering drug. The movie "Jacob's Ladder" depicts what happened. According to the movie, a combat unit slaughtered each other.
Very interesting fact - around 1/3 of soldiers who suffer from Gulf War Syndrome never left the States to go into combat! What does that tell you?
murny: Very interesting fact - around 1/3 of soldiers who suffer from Gulf War Syndrome never left the States to go into combat! What does that tell you?
murny: Very interesting fact - around 1/3 of soldiers who suffer from Gulf War Syndrome never left the States to go into combat! What does that tell you?
It tells me that it would be very foolish to accept that statistic without a LOT of critical analysis of all the data, data gathering and the scientific method applied by those who wish to assert this "statistic" to be factual, true and supportable.
It tells me that there is, indeed, something wrong with this picture. What it doesn't tell anyone is that "this statistic, standing on it's own, is proof that the US Army poisons it's own troops for the sake of some nefarious top-secret experiment".
Some critical thinking is in order, here, Murny. You're a sharp lady and as such, I'm pretty sure you would have to agree if truth is more important than politics for you.
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