Hunting (294)
Glitch101: You don't have to live in a country to know what goes on there!
Even you must admit from photographic evidence, that the killing of seal pups is barbaric and frankly uncivilised.
An Inuit that kills for food,or any one else for that matter, is an entirely different subject. It's the unnecessary slaughter of an animal that I am against.
Even you must admit from photographic evidence, that the killing of seal pups is barbaric and frankly uncivilised.
An Inuit that kills for food,or any one else for that matter, is an entirely different subject. It's the unnecessary slaughter of an animal that I am against.
Yes the defenseless baby seals are clubbed and then skinned alive. despicable .
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kidatheart: Read my post again...actually, never mind.
Oh but I do mind.
I understand you are not pro hunt per sa ,which is why I stated "even you".
As for your countries politics that's for you to deal with .We have enough to cope with in the UK.
I'm commenting on an open Forum and just stating things as I personally see them.
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Glitch101: Oh but I do mind.I understand you are not pro hunt per sa ,which is why I stated "even you".
As for your countries politics that's for you to deal with .We have enough to cope with in the UK.
I'm commenting on an open Forum and just stating things as I personally see them.
As for your countries politics that's for you to deal with .We have enough to cope with in the UK.
I'm commenting on an open Forum and just stating things as I personally see them.
You go girl!
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JeanKimberley: So true you don't have to live in a country to know what is going on there - however, on the other hand, I think (me included) get so involved in what other countries are doing wrong in an issue we care about that we don't look in our own back yards. UK does not have a stellar record when it comes to hunting....
The seal issue is a terrible issue - and I don't believe that an indigenous population is all that better in respecting animals that any other person in the community. there are still headhunters in the Amazon and New Ginea...
The seal issue is a terrible issue - and I don't believe that an indigenous population is all that better in respecting animals that any other person in the community. there are still headhunters in the Amazon and New Ginea...
Which is why I don't wish to get involved
I'm just casting an opinion which is surely what a Forum is about.
As for the UK ,lots to be put right regards animal welfare,even in abattoirs believe it or not.
Hunting is supposedly banned ,but the rich folks still flout the rules Saw it with my own eyes the other day coming through the village of Poyntington in Dorset.
All the Huntsmen dresses up to the nines drinking the stirrup cup and the hounds waiting for the off.
Hope the fox went to ground as you can't eat them.
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Glitch101: Which is why I don't wish to get involved I'm just casting an opinion which is surely what a Forum is about.
Opinions and sharing is important and why I like the forums.I guess I was also trying to say that I don't think that indigenous folks should necessary be considered any better because they are trying to keep their traditions intact. Regarding the inuit and seal hunting in the northern regions.
Why I mentioned the cannibals of central and south america. Should they still be allowed to keep to their hunting habits just because it has been part of their heritage and way of life?
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JeanKimberley: Opinions and sharing is important and why I like the forums.
I guess I was also trying to say that I don't think that indigenous folks should necessary be considered any better because they are trying to keep their traditions intact. Regarding the inuit and seal hunting in the northern regions.
Why I mentioned the cannibals of central and south america. Should they still be allowed to keep to their hunting habits just because it has been part of their heritage and way of life?
I guess I was also trying to say that I don't think that indigenous folks should necessary be considered any better because they are trying to keep their traditions intact. Regarding the inuit and seal hunting in the northern regions.
Why I mentioned the cannibals of central and south america. Should they still be allowed to keep to their hunting habits just because it has been part of their heritage and way of life?
Sure, ban hunting in the north, let them starve...or maybe the government will step in and provide for them, like they've done in the past.
How does one compare hunting animals for survival, to killing people?
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I Have No Problem with Using Our resources, NOT WASTING FOR the Fun of wasting,
But Nearly every time someone comes up with a thread like this they are Contradicting themselves...
If You are against Hunting, Do You eat Meat, If You Even Go hunt Mushrooms, Is that Not a Living thing? If You eat Any living thing, Shrimp, Fish, Meat, Chickens, Turkeys, and Even Vegetables are a Living thing...
So Are trees alive, we Cut trees, For wood for Housing, we Cut them for firewood, Furniture,Even Telephone poles to provide Electricity to our homes.. They are resources that we Use to survive, Just as Gas to heat a home...
Fire to Cook it on, How would the Indians OR ANYONE. have survived without Hunting, Fishing and using The Resources??????
Just My Opinion...
And I will Not Debate it!
But Nearly every time someone comes up with a thread like this they are Contradicting themselves...
If You are against Hunting, Do You eat Meat, If You Even Go hunt Mushrooms, Is that Not a Living thing? If You eat Any living thing, Shrimp, Fish, Meat, Chickens, Turkeys, and Even Vegetables are a Living thing...
So Are trees alive, we Cut trees, For wood for Housing, we Cut them for firewood, Furniture,Even Telephone poles to provide Electricity to our homes.. They are resources that we Use to survive, Just as Gas to heat a home...
Fire to Cook it on, How would the Indians OR ANYONE. have survived without Hunting, Fishing and using The Resources??????
Just My Opinion...
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kidatheart: Sure, ban hunting in the north, let them starve...or maybe the government will step in and provide for them, like they've done in the past.
How does one compare hunting animals for survival, to killing people?
How does one compare hunting animals for survival, to killing people?
I think the amount of animals the Inuit and other traditional peoples take for themselves is sustainable, and therefore should be left as it is.
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HotrodLarrys: I Have No Problem with Using Our resources, NOT WASTING FOR the Fun of wasting,
But Nearly every time someone comes up with a thread like this they are Contradicting themselves...
If You are against Hunting, Do You eat Meat, If You Even Go hunt Mushrooms, Is that Not a Living thing? If You eat Any living thing, Shrimp, Fish, Meat, Chickens, Turkeys, and Even Vegetables are a Living thing...
So Are trees alive, we Cut trees, For wood for Housing, we Cut them for firewood, Furniture,Even Telephone poles to provide Electricity to our homes.. They are resources that we Use to survive, Just as Gas to heat a home...
Fire to Cook it on, How would the Indians OR ANYONE. have survived without Hunting, Fishing and using The Resources??????
Just My Opinion... And I will Not Debate it!
But Nearly every time someone comes up with a thread like this they are Contradicting themselves...
If You are against Hunting, Do You eat Meat, If You Even Go hunt Mushrooms, Is that Not a Living thing? If You eat Any living thing, Shrimp, Fish, Meat, Chickens, Turkeys, and Even Vegetables are a Living thing...
So Are trees alive, we Cut trees, For wood for Housing, we Cut them for firewood, Furniture,Even Telephone poles to provide Electricity to our homes.. They are resources that we Use to survive, Just as Gas to heat a home...
Fire to Cook it on, How would the Indians OR ANYONE. have survived without Hunting, Fishing and using The Resources??????
Just My Opinion... And I will Not Debate it!
My thread topic was merely a question. Should hunting for SPORT be banned? I vote ban.
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HotrodLarrys: I Have No Problem with Using Our resources, NOT WASTING FOR the Fun of wasting,
But Nearly every time someone comes up with a thread like this they are Contradicting themselves...
If You are against Hunting, Do You eat Meat, If You Even Go hunt Mushrooms, Is that Not a Living thing? If You eat Any living thing, Shrimp, Fish, Meat, Chickens, Turkeys, and Even Vegetables are a Living thing...
So Are trees alive, we Cut trees, For wood for Housing, we Cut them for firewood, Furniture,Even Telephone poles to provide Electricity to our homes.. They are resources that we Use to survive, Just as Gas to heat a home...
Fire to Cook it on, How would the Indians OR ANYONE. have survived without Hunting, Fishing and using The Resources??????
Just My Opinion... And I will Not Debate it!
But Nearly every time someone comes up with a thread like this they are Contradicting themselves...
If You are against Hunting, Do You eat Meat, If You Even Go hunt Mushrooms, Is that Not a Living thing? If You eat Any living thing, Shrimp, Fish, Meat, Chickens, Turkeys, and Even Vegetables are a Living thing...
So Are trees alive, we Cut trees, For wood for Housing, we Cut them for firewood, Furniture,Even Telephone poles to provide Electricity to our homes.. They are resources that we Use to survive, Just as Gas to heat a home...
Fire to Cook it on, How would the Indians OR ANYONE. have survived without Hunting, Fishing and using The Resources??????
Just My Opinion... And I will Not Debate it!
You may chose not to debate but I will respond.
The killing of an animal for survival is an entirely different argument than killing it for sport, or to supply a spoilt rich woman with an Arctic or Blue fox to hang round her neck to keep her warm'
The coat was provided to keep the animal warm not her.
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misbhavn: My thread topic was merely a question. Should hunting for SPORT be banned? I vote ban.
I would add a codicil , it should be allowed in conjunction with proper culling.
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kidatheart: Sure, ban hunting in the north, let them starve...or maybe the government will step in and provide for them, like they've done in the past.
How does one compare hunting animals for survival, to killing people?[b/
How does one compare hunting animals for survival, to killing people?[b/
One doesn't,and that's a whole different thread.
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kidatheart: Sure, ban hunting in the north, let them starve...or maybe the government will step in and provide for them, like they've done in the past.
How does one compare hunting animals for survival, to killing people?
How does one compare hunting animals for survival, to killing people?
good question - because most Canadians now go to the grocery store to get their meat -
I am just taking a philosophical view not a personal feeling view on this whole hunting thing.
The debate would be on one site - pro hunting of the inuit and eskimo folk because it is a way of life and survival - their traditions -
on the con side of hunting - folk need to change - and whole ways of life and survival must change for humans -
So yes Canada has the ability and certainly does take care of her people - look what happened to the Dukabours in the 1900s in Canada. Or how disrespectful to the Chinese men who built the Canadian railroads - or how much alcoholism and despair is present on the Indian reservations for the "natives" .....
country governments have to weight out the changes in human behavior with the ways things are moving in the future.
Not that I have an answer just an opinion and I am saying I am not too sure that just because it is a way of life and survival for a population that it is more an excuse not a justification.
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HotrodLarrys: I Have No Problem with Using Our resources, NOT WASTING FOR the Fun of wasting,
But Nearly every time someone comes up with a thread like this they are Contradicting themselves...
If You are against Hunting, Do You eat Meat, If You Even Go hunt Mushrooms, Is that Not a Living thing? If You eat Any living thing, Shrimp, Fish, Meat, Chickens, Turkeys, and Even Vegetables are a Living thing...
So Are trees alive, we Cut trees, For wood for Housing, we Cut them for firewood, Furniture,Even Telephone poles to provide Electricity to our homes.. They are resources that we Use to survive, Just as Gas to heat a home...
Fire to Cook it on, How would the Indians OR ANYONE. have survived without Hunting, Fishing and using The Resources??????
Just My Opinion... And I will Not Debate it!
But Nearly every time someone comes up with a thread like this they are Contradicting themselves...
If You are against Hunting, Do You eat Meat, If You Even Go hunt Mushrooms, Is that Not a Living thing? If You eat Any living thing, Shrimp, Fish, Meat, Chickens, Turkeys, and Even Vegetables are a Living thing...
So Are trees alive, we Cut trees, For wood for Housing, we Cut them for firewood, Furniture,Even Telephone poles to provide Electricity to our homes.. They are resources that we Use to survive, Just as Gas to heat a home...
Fire to Cook it on, How would the Indians OR ANYONE. have survived without Hunting, Fishing and using The Resources??????
Just My Opinion... And I will Not Debate it!
No It Should Not be Banned any more than Banning Raising Chickens, Cows or Hogs for Consumption!
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JeanKimberley: good question - because most Canadians now go to the grocery store to get their meat -
I am just taking a philosophical view not a personal feeling view on this whole hunting thing.
The debate would be on one site - pro hunting of the inuit and eskimo folk because it is a way of life and survival - their traditions -
on the con side of hunting - folk need to change - and whole ways of life and survival must change for humans -
So yes Canada has the ability and certainly does take care of her people - look what happened to the Dukabours in the 1900s in Canada. Or how disrespectful to the Chinese men who built the Canadian railroads - or how much alcoholism and despair is present on the Indian reservations for the "natives" .....
country governments have to weight out the changes in human behavior with the ways things are moving in the future.
Not that I have an answer just an opinion and I am saying I am not too sure that just because it is a way of life and survival for a population that it is more an excuse not a justification.
I am just taking a philosophical view not a personal feeling view on this whole hunting thing.
The debate would be on one site - pro hunting of the inuit and eskimo folk because it is a way of life and survival - their traditions -
on the con side of hunting - folk need to change - and whole ways of life and survival must change for humans -
So yes Canada has the ability and certainly does take care of her people - look what happened to the Dukabours in the 1900s in Canada. Or how disrespectful to the Chinese men who built the Canadian railroads - or how much alcoholism and despair is present on the Indian reservations for the "natives" .....
country governments have to weight out the changes in human behavior with the ways things are moving in the future.
Not that I have an answer just an opinion and I am saying I am not too sure that just because it is a way of life and survival for a population that it is more an excuse not a justification.
So basically you're saying your opinion means nothing, because you know nothing about the topic.
Do you have any idea of the cost of living north of the 60th parallel, or the harsh conditions people live in? Do you really believe that the government is going to hand them everything, when they don't even pay for proper schools at this present time? Do you think that would be a good plan for the people themselves, to have to do nothing, other than wait for handouts?
Do a little research, then try again, or just STFU.
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Countrylovin1969: for the most part zoos are there to make money..I agree with the endangered aspect but what about all the other hundreds of animals that are jailed plus you can reed a book to discouver the mating aspects of animals if your so interested !
No zoos are there to raise money to help with various issues dear to animal conservationists hearts - it takes a lot of money to properly manage a zoo - you won't find "big business" in a zoo - they are not "cash cows"
Some of the zoos still have jailed or caged the animal - some have created excellent habitats that would be the same as in their natural environment - including putting web cameras in so that they can be observed while not bothered.
It is always a serious endeavor to weight the control and care of wild animals -
Zoos are a necessary function in our society. Reserves are better perhaps - We humans have a responsibility not only to each other but in our care of the animals
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JeanKimberley: good question - because most Canadians now go to the grocery store to get their meat -
I am just taking a philosophical view not a personal feeling view on this whole hunting thing.
The debate would be on one site - pro hunting of the inuit and eskimo folk because it is a way of life and survival - their traditions -
on the con side of hunting - folk need to change - and whole ways of life and survival must change for humans -
So yes Canada has the ability and certainly does take care of her people - look what happened to the Dukabours in the 1900s in Canada. Or how disrespectful to the Chinese men who built the Canadian railroads - or how much alcoholism and despair is present on the Indian reservations for the "natives" .....
country governments have to weight out the changes in human behavior with the ways things are moving in the future.
Not that I have an answer just an opinion and I am saying I am not too sure that just because it is a way of life and survival for a population that it is more an excuse not a justification.
I am just taking a philosophical view not a personal feeling view on this whole hunting thing.
The debate would be on one site - pro hunting of the inuit and eskimo folk because it is a way of life and survival - their traditions -
on the con side of hunting - folk need to change - and whole ways of life and survival must change for humans -
So yes Canada has the ability and certainly does take care of her people - look what happened to the Dukabours in the 1900s in Canada. Or how disrespectful to the Chinese men who built the Canadian railroads - or how much alcoholism and despair is present on the Indian reservations for the "natives" .....
country governments have to weight out the changes in human behavior with the ways things are moving in the future.
Not that I have an answer just an opinion and I am saying I am not too sure that just because it is a way of life and survival for a population that it is more an excuse not a justification.
Basically it's called finding a balance, which applies to all walks of life,and we as humans don't seem to have managed to tip the scales evenly as yet.
Weather patterns change which also affect how some animals breed, and also the survival of said offspring. Another reason to reconsider slaughter in such vast numbers as the stock will deplete of it's own accord without human intervention. j.m.o.
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JeanKimberley: good question - because most Canadians now go to the grocery store to get their meat -
I am just taking a philosophical view not a personal feeling view on this whole hunting thing.
The debate would be on one site - pro hunting of the inuit and eskimo folk because it is a way of life and survival - their traditions -
on the con side of hunting - folk need to change - and whole ways of life and survival must change for humans -
So yes Canada has the ability and certainly does take care of her people - look what happened to the Dukabours in the 1900s in Canada. Or how disrespectful to the Chinese men who built the Canadian railroads - or how much alcoholism and despair is present on the Indian reservations for the "natives" .....
country governments have to weight out the changes in human behavior with the ways things are moving in the future.
Not that I have an answer just an opinion and I am saying I am not too sure that just because it is a way of life and survival for a population that it is more an excuse not a justification.
I am just taking a philosophical view not a personal feeling view on this whole hunting thing.
The debate would be on one site - pro hunting of the inuit and eskimo folk because it is a way of life and survival - their traditions -
on the con side of hunting - folk need to change - and whole ways of life and survival must change for humans -
So yes Canada has the ability and certainly does take care of her people - look what happened to the Dukabours in the 1900s in Canada. Or how disrespectful to the Chinese men who built the Canadian railroads - or how much alcoholism and despair is present on the Indian reservations for the "natives" .....
country governments have to weight out the changes in human behavior with the ways things are moving in the future.
Not that I have an answer just an opinion and I am saying I am not too sure that just because it is a way of life and survival for a population that it is more an excuse not a justification.
What do you propose to put in place of hunting to control Deer-and other Animals being hunted now,because if you don't,you will end up with an increased starved and sick population of sundry animals!
Hunting,so far has kept that in check!
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Even you must admit from photographic evidence, that the killing of seal pups is barbaric and frankly uncivilised.
An Inuit that kills for food,or any one else for that matter, is an entirely different subject. It's the unnecessary slaughter of an animal that I am against.
So true you don't have to live in a country to know what is going on there - however, on the other hand, I think (me included) get so involved in what other countries are doing wrong in an issue we care about that we don't look in our own back yards. UK does not have a stellar record when it comes to hunting....
The seal issue is a terrible issue - and I don't believe that an indigenous population is all that better in respecting animals that any other person in the community. there are still headhunters in the Amazon and New Ginea...