Hunting ( Archived) (294)

Feb 1, 2014 7:56 AM CST Hunting
misbhavn
misbhavnmisbhavnNoneyabiz, Florida USA30 Threads 4 Polls 439 Posts
Dedovix: Yeah, I bet this petition will make all the difference in the world ...
It won`t stop whale hunting ,seal hunting ,sea lion hunting

Just like no petition will stop oil drilling ,gold digging or any other extraction of natural resources


Sarcasism, lol.laugh

Even if the petition were to save one animal then my signature was worth it.
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Feb 1, 2014 8:02 AM CST Hunting
itsimpossible
itsimpossibleitsimpossibleBrisbane, Queensland Australia4 Threads 777 Posts
misbhavn: Should hunting be banned?
yes and no
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Feb 1, 2014 8:07 AM CST Hunting
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
misbhavn: Sarcasism, lol.

Even if the petition were to save one animal then my signature was worth it.


Spoken like human being.teddybear teddybear teddybear bouquet
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Feb 1, 2014 8:10 AM CST Hunting
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
misbhavn: Should hunting be banned?


I'll bet more animals die unnecessarily simply because of how wasteful you(you and everybody else)are than they do by hunting for sport. And overeaters definitely kill more animals per person than these sportsmen.

If we're to ban hunting for sport because it's cruel, harmful, wasteful and an unnecessarily decadent pleasure then why stop there? Why not ban bric-a-brac, cosmetics, dyes, fashion and retail therapy in general?
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Feb 1, 2014 8:28 AM CST Hunting
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Obstinance_Works: I'll bet more animals die unnecessarily simply because of how wasteful you(you and everybody else)are than they do by hunting for sport. And overeaters definitely kill more animals per person than these sportsmen.

If we're to ban hunting for sport because it's cruel, harmful, wasteful and an unnecessarily decadent pleasure then why stop there? Why not ban bric-a-brac, cosmetics, dyes, fashion and retail therapy in general?


Hunters may directly harm the animal kingdom. But if non-hunters are indirectly causing multiple times the damage then what right do they have to judge? The answer is no right.
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Feb 1, 2014 8:32 AM CST Hunting
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Obstinance_Works: Hunters may directly harm the animal kingdom. But if non-hunters are indirectly causing multiple times the damage then what right do they have to judge? The answer is no right.



Every one has aright to an opinion on the fate of our world, your answer is defeatist no action. The correct answer is any human being has the right to an opinion too bad we can't ask the animals.
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Feb 1, 2014 8:37 AM CST Hunting
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
Obstinance_Works: Hunters may directly harm the animal kingdom. But if non-hunters are indirectly causing multiple times the damage then what right do they have to judge? The answer is no right.



I don't see how in a properly managed system, that hunters could be doing any harm? They help too keep numbers in balance, preventing animals from overpopulating and eventually starving to death, or being culled en masse.

If anything, it's agri-corps encroaching on what was once natural habitat, producing more than is consumed, for sheer profit. Or mining, and oil exploration and production, doing the same, encroaching. Or builders sticking up ticky tacky houses in ticky tacky suburbs, so people can live their ticky tacky lives.
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Feb 1, 2014 8:41 AM CST Hunting
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
kidatheart: I don't see how in a properly managed system, that hunters could be doing any harm? They help too keep numbers in balance, preventing animals from overpopulating and eventually starving to death, or being culled en masse.

If anything, it's agri-corps encroaching on what was once natural habitat, producing more than is consumed, for sheer profit. Or mining, and oil exploration and production, doing the same, encroaching. Or builders sticking up ticky tacky houses in ticky tacky suburbs, so people can live their ticky tacky lives.



In a properly managed system I might agree with you, but it's not.
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Feb 1, 2014 8:43 AM CST Hunting
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
tomcatwarne: In a properly managed system I might agree with you, but it's not.


It is here, so I don't know where you mean it isn't. Perhaps parts of Africa, where it's more of a poaching problem than a hunting issue?
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Feb 1, 2014 8:46 AM CST Hunting
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
kidatheart: It is here, so I don't know where you mean it isn't. Perhaps parts of Africa, where it's more of a poaching problem than a hunting issue?



I was looking at a world scenario
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Feb 1, 2014 8:48 AM CST Hunting
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
tomcatwarne: I was looking at a world scenario


Anywhere in particular that has an issue? dunno
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Feb 1, 2014 8:48 AM CST Hunting
reb56
reb56reb56carthage, Missouri USA55 Polls 8,629 Posts
jono7: do you mean meat hunting, trophy hunting, or all hunting?
hunt,wild hogs/they need it,to feed the poor,etc.
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Feb 1, 2014 8:50 AM CST Hunting
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Hunting of whales and baby seals, capture of Orka whales.
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Feb 1, 2014 8:56 AM CST Hunting
misbhavn
misbhavnmisbhavnNoneyabiz, Florida USA30 Threads 4 Polls 439 Posts
tomcatwarne: Spoken like human being.


Thank yougrin
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Feb 1, 2014 8:59 AM CST Hunting
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
tomcatwarne: Hunting of whales and baby seals, capture of Orka whales.


You're grasping at straws again. Any whale hunting done is under strict management by an international committee, and only specified quotas. Anything more, is illegal, and the same goes for seals.

You might not like it, but that's the facts.
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Feb 1, 2014 9:04 AM CST Hunting
misbhavn
misbhavnmisbhavnNoneyabiz, Florida USA30 Threads 4 Polls 439 Posts
Obstinance_Works: I'll bet more animals die unnecessarily simply because of how wasteful you(you and everybody else)are than they do by hunting for sport. And overeaters definitely kill more animals per person than these sportsmen.

If we're to ban hunting for sport because it's cruel, harmful, wasteful and an unnecessarily decadent pleasure then why stop there? Why not ban bric-a-brac, cosmetics, dyes, fashion and retail therapy in general?


You have a good point in your last question but just for the record, my parents always taught me to be wasteful and I've never been a big meat eater. Except for tube steak smothered in underwear.giggle giggle giggle
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Feb 1, 2014 9:07 AM CST Hunting
Glitch101
Glitch101Glitch101London, Greater London, England UK21 Threads 1,079 Posts
Fox hunting is supposed to be banned in the UK but still goes on.

Who in their right mind would send a pack of baying hounds and about 20 to 30 people on horse back after one defenceless fox.

People with too much money in the UK ,as it's just a rich man's sport.


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Feb 1, 2014 9:10 AM CST Hunting
misbhavn
misbhavnmisbhavnNoneyabiz, Florida USA30 Threads 4 Polls 439 Posts
Glitch101: Fox hunting is supposed to be banned in the UK but still goes on.

Who in their right mind would send a pack of baying hounds and about 20 to 30 people on horse back after one defenceless fox.

People with too much money in the UK ,as it's just a rich man's sport.http://blog.peta.org.uk/2012/04/10-fascinating-facts-about-foxes-with-photos/


Poor defenseless little fox. It just breaks my heart to think of these animals being killed just for the fun of it.crying
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Feb 1, 2014 9:16 AM CST Hunting
Glitch101
Glitch101Glitch101London, Greater London, England UK21 Threads 1,079 Posts
kidatheart: It is here, so I don't know where you mean it isn't. Perhaps parts of Africa, where it's more of a poaching problem than a hunting issue?



Sealing should not be allowed as part of resource management measures.

Seals are an important part of the marine ecosystem. They are not the cause of the depletion of fish stocks. The problems that fishermen are seeing around the globe arise from over-fishing; destructive, industrial fishing practices like bottom trawling, long lining, and purse seining; man-made pollution of the oceans with plastic waste, radioactive waste (including the large amount of radioactive wastewater dumped into the Pacific ocean by Japan), and chemical waste, which is building up in the bodies of fish and marine mammals; and climate change, which is acidifying the oceans (causing losses of coral reefs and weakening the shells of crustaceans), changing ocean currents, raising the temperature of the oceans, and melting Arctic, sub-Arctic, and Antarctic ice (which is causing polar bears and ice seals to drown in large numbers).
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Feb 1, 2014 9:23 AM CST Hunting
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
Glitch101: Sealing should not be allowed as part of resource management measures.

Seals are an important part of the marine ecosystem. They are not the cause of the depletion of fish stocks. The problems that fishermen are seeing around the globe arise from over-fishing; destructive, industrial fishing practices like bottom trawling, long lining, and purse seining; man-made pollution of the oceans with plastic waste, radioactive waste (including the large amount of radioactive wastewater dumped into the Pacific ocean by Japan), and chemical waste, which is building up in the bodies of fish and marine mammals; and climate change, which is acidifying the oceans (causing losses of coral reefs and weakening the shells of crustaceans), changing ocean currents, raising the temperature of the oceans, and melting Arctic, sub-Arctic, and Antarctic ice (which is causing polar bears and ice seals to drown in large numbers).


Why are you telling me, write little Stevie Harper, our PM and tell him.

I'm all for the Inuit having their traditional seal and whale hunts.
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