Obstinance_Works: Perhaps you only perceive men as being more bitter than women because society is much more tolerant of a moaning woman? That it is so ever-present that it becomes unnoticed, like breathing.
I've noticed that European women are much more docile during the PMS trip, than American women. Is it because of societies influence on them ?...but European men are much more "old farty " than American men. Same reason ?
May 31, 2014 11:01 AM CST Why do women get sweeter disposition as they get older ? And men get grouchier ?
goldenglossMalahide North County Dublin, Dublin Ireland3 Threads389 Posts
goldenglossMalahide North County Dublin, Dublin Ireland389 posts
Hi Lostabone. I don't know if you can generalise. Ive come across alot of grouchy old women as well as men. I think it's the luck of the draw but yep, Ive noticed, men do seem to get cranky/grouchy. We women, on the other hand, stop wanting to be 'nice' and become genuine, and mellow.
goldengloss: Hi Lostabone. I don't know if you can generalise. Ive come across alot of grouchy old women as well as men. I think it's the luck of the draw but yep, Ive noticed, men do seem to get cranky/grouchy. We women, on the other hand, stop wanting to be 'nice' and become genuine, and mellow.
" You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar " ?...
lostabone: I've noticed that European women are much more docile during the PMS trip, than American women. Is it because of societies influence on them ?...but European men are much more "old farty " than American men. Same reason ?
European culture is not as egotistical and gluttonous and so European women will have a greater sense of self-restraint(which is reflected in their more slender waistlines). We also have a weaker sense of entitlement which I expect contributes further to self-restraint. Self-restraint will help her keep a lid on PMS.
And it's also probable that that PMS is stronger amongst American women because American men are the most effete and sycophantic towards women and they allow them the run of the place in a way that no other group of men, past or present, would do. Traditional masculinity and strength is an even older part of history in America than it is in Europe. 2030 Europe will be as manginafied as 2010 America, and god knows what you'll be by then, bankrupt I should expect.
NidifugousYap, Federated States of Micronesia1,430 posts
I don't have the answer, but it cannot be hormonal because as women get old, the estrogen decreases and hormonally speaking, they become more like men, sans the excess testosterone.
I think as people get old they become more tolerant and also a little more bitter only because they realize what all the b.s. is about.
Obstinance_Works: American men are the most effete and sycophantic towards women and they allow them the run of the place in a way that no other group of men, past or present, would do.
Obstinance_Works: European culture is not as egotistical and gluttonous and so European women will have a greater sense of self-restraint(which is reflected in their more slender waistlines). We also have a weaker sense of entitlement which I expect contributes further to self-restraint. Self-restraint will help her keep a lid on PMS.
And it's also probable that that PMS is stronger amongst American women because American men are the most effete and sycophantic towards women and they allow them the run of the place in a way that no other group of men, past or present, would do. Traditional masculinity and strength is an even older part of history in America than it is in Europe. 2030 Europe will be as manginafied as 2010 America, and god knows what you'll be by then, bankrupt I should expect.
Exempt proles, rednecks and the deep south from my analysis. I'm only referring to men, usually more pampered men, from the eunuch states of America.
Yes, allow.... and foreboding, apprehension, consternation, dismay, dread, terror, fright, panic, horror, trepidation, qualm. Plays a big part in that.
lostabone: Yes, allow.... and foreboding, apprehension, consternation, dismay, dread, terror, fright, panic, horror, trepidation, qualm. Plays a big part in that.
serena123durban, KwaZulu-Natal South Africa2,821 posts
Is it hormonal ? or do women realize something as they age, that men are still ignorant about ?[/quote Exactly! Women mature quicker and therefore they are wiser :) we know something you don't know.. And will NOT tell you, even under interrogation
goldengloss: Hi Lostabone. I don't know if you can generalise. Ive come across alot of grouchy old women as well as men. I think it's the luck of the draw but yep, Ive noticed, men do seem to get cranky/grouchy. We women, on the other hand, stop wanting to be 'nice' and become genuine, and mellow.
I have to agree with goldengloss on these two statements. We all have differents characteristics and demeanor's that are unique to ourselves. I don't think we categorize anybody into being either sweet or grumpy. Just as an example, I was always very assertive in my actions be it in my personal life or at work. I was often considered being a grump although I did not think I was portraying that.Took me a long time but as I started getting older I started realizing that. Now I find that if I communicate with people(in any situation)with a smile or suggestion or even a joke,people find me a much better person to be around. So it has a lot to do with life experiences and lessons learned. Totally unique to evryone of us.
kennn: I have to agree with goldengloss on these two statements. We all have differents characteristics and demeanor's that are unique to ourselves. I don't think we categorize anybody into being either sweet or grumpy. Just as an example, I was always very assertive in my actions be it in my personal life or at work. I was often considered being a grump although I did not think I was portraying that.Took me a long time but as I started getting older I started realizing that. Now I find that if I communicate with people(in any situation)with a smile or suggestion or even a joke,people find me a much better person to be around. So it has a lot to do with life experiences and lessons learned. Totally unique to evryone of us.
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