i'm buying a commerical jeep for starting a business of landscaping gardens (60)
Obstinance_Works: I'm trying to give credit where it's due because they have a very important mentality for making a business. A mentality most of our native citizens do not have and our people are prone to making the business mistakes that idiotic, pretentious or stuck-up people are likely to; such as spending a lot of money on the superficial trappings and not prioritising the essentials: E.g. Buying a jeep when you don't have any customers.
Anyway why didn't you just read the post all the way until the end instead of highlighting the first part and then repeating my own words back to me in a more detailed form whilst framing it as a disagreement?
Anyway why didn't you just read the post all the way until the end instead of highlighting the first part and then repeating my own words back to me in a more detailed form whilst framing it as a disagreement?
I did read your post to the end.
You admire the entrepreneurial spirit of travellers. I get that.
But the fact remains that this particular entrepreneurial spirit has a foundation in claiming dole whilst working, and not paying tax on earnings.
Our country can't afford those kind of entrepreneurs. We don't need any more of them.
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Good Luck pedro
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pedro27: a list of tools i need to start getting, a good lawnmore, elertic hedge strimmer. shovels, forks,picks,a good spade. wheel barrow,a rack, bush man saw.
can you need a few more tools?
pedro the best thing you can do is buy a lawnmower you could come down here and practice I wont charge for this service has a strimmer as well you could try her out and if you like her I will sell to you cheap its a humdinger I might evennrent to you I have loads of tools you can try them out it would be good experience as well I d give you a reference afer a month have a think and good luckcan you need a few more tools?
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johnjjm: pedro the best thing you can do is buy a lawnmower you could come down here and practice I wont charge for this service has a strimmer as well you could try her out and if you like her I will sell to you cheap its a humdinger I might evennrent to you I have loads of tools you can try them out it would be good experience as well I d give you a reference afer a month have a think and good luck
JJ. What a fantastic offer and reasonable way to help Pedro start off on the right foot. 
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Marketing Strategy...how to build a client base.
Pedro, spring is nearing and it is the perfect opportunity for getting your name out there and this worked for me as the first step in building a business, and has worked for others that I have suggested this to:
Contact local teachers and youth organizations. You can do a Google search to find them in your area and even the names in most cases. Prepare an introductory bag and hand deliver it to the person with an outline of what your presentation will be and how it will benefit the group you are presenting to. In your case, gardens.
Just a minor initial investment and you can create on your own business cards with a printer. The bag could contain a sapling, garden gloves, flower seed packets, sunscreen, flower bulbs, stationery with a gardening/flower theme; just use a bit of creativity, your letter of introduction, any references you may have and several of your business cards included.
Do you have Arbor Day in Ireland? Or an Environmental Day? Or something that focuses on the planet and nature? That is the perfect opportunity to coincide with making presentations to classrooms of young students and youth organizations (boy scouts, nature groups, etc.). Prepare bags for each child to take home with instructions on how to plant the sapling or flower, and offer a free first time service, or pay for the first time with the second time free, or a discount for first-time clients. Make the presentation about a particular flower, or how the children can be stewards for the planet through garden care, planting, ecology, etc...
Also, offer to be a vendor at any local seminars or special events.
This builds a client base, people meet you face to face and therefore take you more seriously.
Pedro, spring is nearing and it is the perfect opportunity for getting your name out there and this worked for me as the first step in building a business, and has worked for others that I have suggested this to:
Contact local teachers and youth organizations. You can do a Google search to find them in your area and even the names in most cases. Prepare an introductory bag and hand deliver it to the person with an outline of what your presentation will be and how it will benefit the group you are presenting to. In your case, gardens.
Just a minor initial investment and you can create on your own business cards with a printer. The bag could contain a sapling, garden gloves, flower seed packets, sunscreen, flower bulbs, stationery with a gardening/flower theme; just use a bit of creativity, your letter of introduction, any references you may have and several of your business cards included.
Do you have Arbor Day in Ireland? Or an Environmental Day? Or something that focuses on the planet and nature? That is the perfect opportunity to coincide with making presentations to classrooms of young students and youth organizations (boy scouts, nature groups, etc.). Prepare bags for each child to take home with instructions on how to plant the sapling or flower, and offer a free first time service, or pay for the first time with the second time free, or a discount for first-time clients. Make the presentation about a particular flower, or how the children can be stewards for the planet through garden care, planting, ecology, etc...
Also, offer to be a vendor at any local seminars or special events.
This builds a client base, people meet you face to face and therefore take you more seriously.
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pedro27: a list of tools i need to start getting, a good lawnmore, elertic hedge strimmer. shovels, forks,picks,a good spade. wheel barrow,a rack, bush man saw.
can you need a few more tools?
older Land Rovers are a great deal. (Some, as I, believe that a good used vehicle is often a much better deal for a number of reasons. It's "settled in", much lower cost, etc... Either Jeep or Rover, expect to spend $8,000.00 to $20,000.00 for used, $29,000.00 to $40,000.00 for new. Buy smart. You do not need all the frou frou on the new ones. It's baloney. JMOcan you need a few more tools?
*(I do not recommend getting a car or truck with an on-board tracking device. Your vehicle can be "stopped" (prevented from operating) if there is a discrepancy regarding a bill or for any other reason. Unsafe to the max. I cannot recommend not having a vehicle like this enough.)
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mollybaby: I agree. As long as normal people aren't funding it.
Here anyone who starts a business to sustain himself/herself (selfemployment) is eligible to some subsidies (for getting some tools, although not easy and not enough) and as a new business
they pay not taxes the first year,
just they have to be registered. If we do have that program, you must have even better programs.
Also, there are categories in income and a starting business in gardening will not jump the base for paying taxes at the federal level, they will pay at the state level but it is only after the first year.
Are you concerned about how much a Gardening business can cost to “normal” people?
Do you know how much is that?
Can you tell me how much the cost of a Gardening business with a lawn cutter and a wheel barrow is -to “normal” people-?.
For a human being to be useful -and gardening is a soul full filling activity- that has not price.
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'..........-and gardening is a soul full filling activity- that has not price'
Absolutely true!
Absolutely true!
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ok im getting the commerical jeep, without buying the lawn more, i will ask a 100 houses would they like there grass cut and if i get enough offers i will buy a lawnmore, and then they will call me edward scissor hands
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pedro27: ok im getting the commerical jeep, without buying the lawn more, i will ask a 100 houses would they like there grass cut and if i get enough offers i will buy a lawnmore, and then they will call me edward scissor hands
Pedro, you're putting the cart before the horse. Please consider JJ's offer and hold off on buying a jeep. It sounds like you're simply wanting to have an excuse for buying a jeep, which is not the best option for the type of vehicle one needs for a landscaping business. And I gave you the secret to reaching hundreds of potential clients all at once, not one hundred who will more than likely not answer their door and throw any leaflet in the trash bin.
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pedro27: ok im getting the commerical jeep, without buying the lawn more, i will ask a 100 houses would they like there grass cut and if i get enough offers i will buy a lawnmore, and then they will call me edward scissor hands
Then you are a very silly man. To invest so much money into something without knowing if there's going to be a business at the end of it, is the easiest way to fail. Why not start out with lugging it about in your car, or hire a small trailer. Christ! You can even buy them for a small fee these days. To spend a minimum of 5k on a vehicle (as you've got to look professional, as turning up in a rust bucket just won't cut it) will instantly eat up any profits for a seriously long time.
Only 100 houses? That's kind of lazy, isn't it? You should be knocking on just about EVERY door in your area, and well into a twenty mile radius.
When I started my business, I was spending my weekends and free days travelling around the country looking for clients. Yes, my first year I ran at a serious loss (which I could afford to do) due to my expenses, but it came through after that.
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2girlsnocup: my first year I ran at a serious loss (which I could afford to do) due to my expenses, but it came through after that.
Heed what 2girls just wrote here.
Start-up expenses and out-of-pocket expenses exceed income the first year or two or more. Whatever you earn will need to be turned right back into covering your business expenses first.
And are you truly wanting to start a landscaping business? Or just mowing lawns. Young lads mow lawns for next to nothing. One can't compete in that respect.
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pedro27: a list of tools i need to start getting, a good lawnmore, elertic hedge strimmer. shovels, forks,picks,a good spade. wheel barrow,a rack, bush man saw.
can you need a few more tools?
can you need a few more tools?
what about a tiller?
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lifeisadream: Here anyone who starts a business to sustain himself/herself (selfemployment) is eligible to some subsidies (for getting some tools, although not easy and not enough) and as a new business
they pay not taxes the first year,
just they have to be registered. If we do have that program, you must have even better programs.
Also, there are categories in income and a starting business in gardening will not jump the base for paying taxes at the federal level, they will pay at the state level but it is only after the first year.
Are you concerned about how much a Gardening business can cost to “normal” people?
Do you know how much is that?
Can you tell me how much the cost of a Gardening business with a lawn cutter and a wheel barrow is -to “normal” people-?.
For a human being to be useful -and gardening is a soul full filling activity- that has not price.
they pay not taxes the first year,
just they have to be registered. If we do have that program, you must have even better programs.
Also, there are categories in income and a starting business in gardening will not jump the base for paying taxes at the federal level, they will pay at the state level but it is only after the first year.
Are you concerned about how much a Gardening business can cost to “normal” people?
Do you know how much is that?
Can you tell me how much the cost of a Gardening business with a lawn cutter and a wheel barrow is -to “normal” people-?.
For a human being to be useful -and gardening is a soul full filling activity- that has not price.
There are good start up programmes here too. And yes, tax-free for the first year.
But the person needs to be registered as you say.
But what some do is continue taking all the benefits of the dole, do not register, do not pay any tax..ever, and continue taking taxpayers money.
That is why I am against normal people funding such enterprises.
The country cannot afford more 'entrepreneurs' such as this.
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mollybaby: There are good start up programmes here too. And yes, tax-free for the first year.
But the person needs to be registered as you say.
But what some do is continue taking all the benefits of the dole, do not register, do not pay any tax..ever, and continue taking taxpayers money.
That is why I am against normal people funding such enterprises.
The country cannot afford more 'entrepreneurs' such as this.
But the person needs to be registered as you say.
But what some do is continue taking all the benefits of the dole, do not register, do not pay any tax..ever, and continue taking taxpayers money.
That is why I am against normal people funding such enterprises.
The country cannot afford more 'entrepreneurs' such as this.
How much are we talking about for "normal" people to have to give to suport such a 'entrepreneurs'???
Any intention or effort of people to get out of the wellfare system is worth to pay for and it is not only about the money it is about dignity.
Your country and my country are expending lots of money in other things that should not -like politicians paycheck- shall we look about them first?
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lifeisadream: How much are we talking about for "normal" people to have to give to suport such a 'entrepreneurs'???
Any intention or effort of people to get out of the wellfare system is worth to pay for and it is not only about the money it is about dignity.
Your country and my country are expending lots of money in other things that should not -like politicians paycheck- shall we look about them first?
Any intention or effort of people to get out of the wellfare system is worth to pay for and it is not only about the money it is about dignity.
Your country and my country are expending lots of money in other things that should not -like politicians paycheck- shall we look about them first?
You misunderstand me.
I am all for people getting out of the welfare system.
I am also all for entrepreneurship. All of my family are hard working self-employed people.
What I am against is spongers. Double-spongers at that. Those who stay on the dole no matter what. And also don't pay tax on any earnings they have.
Anyway, it's a moot point, I have yet to see a commercial vehicle invented which will mow grass and trim hedges.
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mollybaby: You misunderstand me.
I am all for people getting out of the welfare system.
I am also all for entrepreneurship. All of my family are hard working self-employed people.
What I am against is spongers. Double-spongers at that. Those who stay on the dole no matter what. And also don't pay tax on any earnings they have.
Anyway, it's a moot point, I have yet to see a commercial vehicle invented which will mow grass and trim hedges.
I am all for people getting out of the welfare system.
I am also all for entrepreneurship. All of my family are hard working self-employed people.
What I am against is spongers. Double-spongers at that. Those who stay on the dole no matter what. And also don't pay tax on any earnings they have.
Anyway, it's a moot point, I have yet to see a commercial vehicle invented which will mow grass and trim hedges.
Exactly Molly!
That is why I would look for the positive sides if anyone wants to get out of the wellfare system and not because of the money they cost ( I do not care about it) but because their dignity to earn their own life.
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lifeisadream: Exactly Molly!
That is why I would look for the positive sides if anyone wants to get out of the wellfare system and not because of the money they cost ( I do not care about it) but because their dignity to earn their own life.
That is why I would look for the positive sides if anyone wants to get out of the wellfare system and not because of the money they cost ( I do not care about it) but because their dignity to earn their own life.
If they did, I too would applaud and support them.
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pedro27: a list of tools i need to start getting, a good lawnmore, elertic hedge strimmer. shovels, forks,picks,a good spade. wheel barrow,a rack, bush man saw.
can you need a few more tools?
have you ever thought of working for somebody that's about to retire or just finish with a business like the one you want .Taking over one with the customers there already is better than trying to poach customers as the first ones you get will be the disloyal , slow/non payers .can you need a few more tools?
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I agree. As long as normal people aren't funding it.