religious differences (123)
Yeats1980: I'd disagree on the science part. What progress has it really brought us to this point? We are simply more efficient at killing people and the planet now.
I beg to disagree Yeats. Your view on the agressors of man due to science is most misunderstood. Without science it's most impossible to gauge the mystery on this vast universe.
The only ability we're gifted to discern the ever elusive part of this magnificent creation, called universe.
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Dinnertime, I'll be back. Thanks guys for your most valued discussion.
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Dinnertime, I'll be back. Thanks guys for your most valued discussion.
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lindsyjones: It's amazing how religion represents most our values, beliefs and traditions, and to most it's a way of life. We live in our religion and religion lives within us.
(Atheist excluded)
QUESTION: Can we become more united because of religion? Or are we more divided?
Why?
(Atheist excluded)
QUESTION: Can we become more united because of religion? Or are we more divided?
Why?
No! Because religion tries to define what the bible says. So, in effect, different religions have their own interpretation of scripture and some get way into the wild blue yonder. The widely accepted and most used bible, i.e., the King James Version is very maligned through these wrong interpretations.
Some have also inserted the apocrypha in their bible which is not widely thought by the HUGE majority of theologians to be legitimate scripture.
So I don't think we will ever be united and definitely because of religion.
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Ed1941: No! Because religion tries to define what the bible says. So, in effect, different religions have their own interpretation of scripture and some get way into the wild blue yonder. The widely accepted and most used bible, i.e., the King James Version is very maligned through these wrong interpretations.
Some have also inserted the apocrypha in their bible which is not widely thought by the HUGE majority of theologians to be legitimate scripture.
So I don't think we will ever be united and definitely because of religion.
Some have also inserted the apocrypha in their bible which is not widely thought by the HUGE majority of theologians to be legitimate scripture.
So I don't think we will ever be united and definitely because of religion.
Well my friend, how is life with you in southern California. Glad you can join us.
Ed my question then is if we won't ever be united, would that mean division is a fact that can't be avoided?
Second question is, we'll we leave this life as the end and that's it?
Or as widely believed, judgement day will happen and great life after that? Would religion only be here in this life?
Thanks Ed.
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Its very hard to have dedication. Atheist included.
More united?
For many religions, Are we not once again trying.......
"Signs"
Little church, up the road.
What gives, beautiful graves,
On a Sunday only 2x car's
I wonder who preaches?
Maybe a family, yet, does it matter,
I shall go.
Loyalty
To what is
For such a forgotten place
Will they share all
I"ll let you know.
Or will it be the caring
Its really quite a disfunctional of course
that.what ever.........
When all can be said, there is more
of love than
projection of nothing
Soph
More united?
For many religions, Are we not once again trying.......
"Signs"
Little church, up the road.
What gives, beautiful graves,
On a Sunday only 2x car's
I wonder who preaches?
Maybe a family, yet, does it matter,
I shall go.
Loyalty
To what is
For such a forgotten place
Will they share all
I"ll let you know.
Or will it be the caring
Its really quite a disfunctional of course
that.what ever.........
When all can be said, there is more
of love than
projection of nothing
Soph
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sophiasummer: Its very hard to have dedication. Atheist included.
More united?
For many religions, Are we not once again trying.......
"Signs"
Little church, up the road.
What gives, beautiful graves,
On a Sunday only 2x car's
I wonder who preaches?
Maybe a family, yet, does it matter,
I shall go.Loyalty
To what is
For such a forgotten place
Will they share all
I"ll let you know.
Or will it be the caring
Its really quite a disfunctional of course
that.what ever.........
When all can be said, there is more
of love than
projection of nothing
Soph
More united?
For many religions, Are we not once again trying.......
"Signs"
Little church, up the road.
What gives, beautiful graves,
On a Sunday only 2x car's
I wonder who preaches?
Maybe a family, yet, does it matter,
I shall go.Loyalty
To what is
For such a forgotten place
Will they share all
I"ll let you know.
Or will it be the caring
Its really quite a disfunctional of course
that.what ever.........
When all can be said, there is more
of love than
projection of nothing
Soph
Sophie, my friend, what an honor of your visit and participation. A profound thinker you are, it truly inspiring for you to grace my write with your thoughts.
I think one of the major draw back of skepticism is the questions asked by our inquiring mind fail to grasp the true meaning of a gift, we call life. We act as though we born ourselves out of our own making and purpose. We only see how big our ego us. We don't see nor acknowledge our very I snapped insignificance is the very answer to all our doubts.
We rely on our own strength as though nothing can outdo our power, if only we check our weakness, how little we are to the magic of whom that endowed us that gift. Humility I believe is the foundation that can bring us together, not religion, not dependence on our society but our dependence to the whole humanity.
My take.
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A sweet reply,as we tear down our palm trees. Of pushing of saws you know the sound. Thank you,from different a world.
Its amazing.
oganic.........not so bad.with our pigs
From indian resturants foods.
Its amazing.
oganic.........not so bad.with our pigs
From indian resturants foods.
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sophiasummer: A sweet reply,as we tear down our palm trees. Of pushing of saws you know the sound. Thank you,from different a world.
Its amazing.
oganic.........not so bad.with our pigs
From indian resturants foods.
Its amazing.
oganic.........not so bad.with our pigs
From indian resturants foods.
One day I'll visit you sophie, I'll see your farm.
Take care my friend.
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lindsyjones: Indeed. A result of our labor and perceptions. Life iz how we make it. Therefore it's a choice to be peaceful, it's a desire to be united and it a deliberate effort to be loved and love everyone.
just curious lindsy...does that include your good friend Jac???
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cgedvr1: just curious lindsy...
does that include your good friend Jac???
does that include your good friend Jac???
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cgedvr1: just curious lindsy...
does that include your good friend Jac???
does that include your good friend Jac???
You pick a bone there alright. Point is in 34 hours blunders do happen. Yes. When it rains it pours. Sometimes we are poked and being coy id not s strength.
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tomcatwarne: Off course there is something we don't understand, science will reveal all in the end.
That rather sounds like you've given up on your own responsibilty to learn ?
Leaving someone else (those involved in science) to tell you 'How it is'
That isn't ever going to work, as it can't.
Science, by design, sets out only to examine (increasingly) small slivers of 'all that is' and then to prove, by a minimal number of repetitions under tightly controlled conditions that it is correct...
Sadly, science also tends to be corrupt truth ... anything contrary to the vested interests of those 'in science' tends to be deeply buried !
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For at least 23,000 years the Buddhist teachings have been available.
That inturpretation comes from the Mahayana teachings, HH Dalai Lama's school of thought, the Middle Way approach using the very same logic and reason we are all endowed with
That inturpretation comes from the Mahayana teachings, HH Dalai Lama's school of thought, the Middle Way approach using the very same logic and reason we are all endowed with
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lindsyjones: It's amazing how religion represents most our values, beliefs and traditions, and to most it's a way of life. We live in our religion and religion lives within us.
(Atheist excluded)
QUESTION: Can we become more united because of religion? Or are we more divided?
Why?
(Atheist excluded)
QUESTION: Can we become more united because of religion? Or are we more divided?
Why?
I'd say it would be impossible, when you think of what religion actually is, what it represents.
Values were present long before religion came along, they just renamed them according to whatever the particular faith is. Most of the religious traditions were stolen from other cultures, groups, or even other religions. The only reason it's a way of life for anyone is because it's what was instilled or enforced upon them from birth. I doubt many of the "religious' would choose religion or religious life if they didn't grow up with it. It's learned, not something instinctual, otherwise we wouldn't have had thousands of religions throughout recorded history.
All just power struggles between various cults, and some of them death cults, where you don't get your reward until you're gone. They all want control of people, their lives, and their money, and people fall for it, through fear and intimidating tactics.
Religion is the truest form of evil, if there were such a thing.
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robplum: For at least 23,000 years the Buddhist teachings have been available.
That inturpretation comes from the Mahayana teachings, HH Dalai Lama's school of thought, the Middle Way approach using the very same logic and reason we are all endowed with
That inturpretation comes from the Mahayana teachings, HH Dalai Lama's school of thought, the Middle Way approach using the very same logic and reason we are all endowed with
The golden rule Rob, if only all of us would follow but I believe it does entail Z very inhuman ability. Meaning perfect character and demeanor. No lying, no negative attitude which is the antidote of human flaw endowment.
Blame it to the Gods? I'm not sure anymore.
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kidatheart: I'd say it would be impossible, when you think of what religion actually is, what it represents.
Values were present long before religion came along, they just renamed them according to whatever the particular faith is. Most of the religious traditions were stolen from other cultures, groups, or even other religions. The only reason it's a way of life for anyone is because it's what was instilled or enforced upon them from birth. I doubt many of the "religious' would choose religion or religious life if they didn't grow up with it. It's learned, not something instinctual, otherwise we wouldn't have had thousands of religions throughout recorded history.
All just power struggles between various cults, and some of them death cults, where you don't get your reward until you're gone. They all want control of people, their lives, and their money, and people fall for it, through fear and intimidating tactics.
Religion is the truest form of evil, if there were such a thing.
Values were present long before religion came along, they just renamed them according to whatever the particular faith is. Most of the religious traditions were stolen from other cultures, groups, or even other religions. The only reason it's a way of life for anyone is because it's what was instilled or enforced upon them from birth. I doubt many of the "religious' would choose religion or religious life if they didn't grow up with it. It's learned, not something instinctual, otherwise we wouldn't have had thousands of religions throughout recorded history.
All just power struggles between various cults, and some of them death cults, where you don't get your reward until you're gone. They all want control of people, their lives, and their money, and people fall for it, through fear and intimidating tactics.
Religion is the truest form of evil, if there were such a thing.
A most impressive dissertation on human character Kid, I can't dispute any of these. Let alone ignore it. Perhaps then we're doomed since inception. Now where does learning and development fall in our dispositions and will?
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Is religion hard wired into humans.
Research into brain's 'God spot' reveals areas of brain involved in religious belief
Scientists searching for a 'God spot' in the brain have found three areas that control religious belief.
A study of 40 participants, including Christians, Muslims, Jews and Buddhists, showed the same areas lit up when they were asked to ponder religious and moral problems.
MRI scans revealed the regions that were activated are those used every day to interpret the feelings and intentions of other people.
Brain
God on the mind: Areas of the brain involved in religious belief
'That suggests that religion is not a special case of a belief system, but evolved along with other belief and social cognitive abilities,' said Jordan Grafman, a cognitive neuroscientist at the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke in Bethesda, Maryland.
Scientists, philosophers and theologians continue to argue about whether religious belief is a biological or a sociological phenomenon.
Some evolutionary theorists believe a belief in a religious power may have helped our ancestors to survive great hardship compared to those with no such convictions.
Others argue that it arises from the structure of the highly adaptable brain itself.
Research into brain's 'God spot' reveals areas of brain involved in religious belief
Scientists searching for a 'God spot' in the brain have found three areas that control religious belief.
A study of 40 participants, including Christians, Muslims, Jews and Buddhists, showed the same areas lit up when they were asked to ponder religious and moral problems.
MRI scans revealed the regions that were activated are those used every day to interpret the feelings and intentions of other people.
Brain
God on the mind: Areas of the brain involved in religious belief
'That suggests that religion is not a special case of a belief system, but evolved along with other belief and social cognitive abilities,' said Jordan Grafman, a cognitive neuroscientist at the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke in Bethesda, Maryland.
Scientists, philosophers and theologians continue to argue about whether religious belief is a biological or a sociological phenomenon.
Some evolutionary theorists believe a belief in a religious power may have helped our ancestors to survive great hardship compared to those with no such convictions.
Others argue that it arises from the structure of the highly adaptable brain itself.
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tomcatwarne: Is religion hard wired into humans.
Research into brain's 'God spot' reveals areas of brain involved in religious beliefScientists searching for a 'God spot' in the brain have found three areas that control religious belief.
A study of 40 participants, including Christians, Muslims, Jews and Buddhists, showed the same areas lit up when they were asked to ponder religious and moral problems.
MRI scans revealed the regions that were activated are those used every day to interpret the feelings and intentions of other people.
Brain
God on the mind: Areas of the brain involved in religious belief
'That suggests that religion is not a special case of a belief system, but evolved along with other belief and social cognitive abilities,' said Jordan Grafman, a cognitive neuroscientist at the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke in Bethesda, Maryland.
Scientists, philosophers and theologians continue to argue about whether religious belief is a biological or a sociological phenomenon.
Some evolutionary theorists believe a belief in a religious power may have helped our ancestors to survive great hardship compared to those with no such convictions.
Others argue that it arises from the structure of the highly adaptable brain itself.
Research into brain's 'God spot' reveals areas of brain involved in religious beliefScientists searching for a 'God spot' in the brain have found three areas that control religious belief.
A study of 40 participants, including Christians, Muslims, Jews and Buddhists, showed the same areas lit up when they were asked to ponder religious and moral problems.
MRI scans revealed the regions that were activated are those used every day to interpret the feelings and intentions of other people.
Brain
God on the mind: Areas of the brain involved in religious belief
'That suggests that religion is not a special case of a belief system, but evolved along with other belief and social cognitive abilities,' said Jordan Grafman, a cognitive neuroscientist at the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke in Bethesda, Maryland.
Scientists, philosophers and theologians continue to argue about whether religious belief is a biological or a sociological phenomenon.
Some evolutionary theorists believe a belief in a religious power may have helped our ancestors to survive great hardship compared to those with no such convictions.
Others argue that it arises from the structure of the highly adaptable brain itself.
Thanks Tom, what a very compelling argument. You made my life this morning most filled with the most brilliant food over the mind. Learning at its best.
I agree with the evolution and the solution induced effects of belief as valued most by the original inhabitants of this earth. Even today, I remember Sept 11 bombing of the TT. Immediately after that, the church in any denomination worldwide was uncharacteristically full. Meaning people tend to rely on belief of someone more powerful than us to save us. Calamities and natural disasters are mark of this phenomenon. But going back to my post, is it ever possible to have a religion and can work side by side with unity among all of mankind?
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