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Jun 9, 2015 12:34 PM CST religious differences
lindsyjones: Tom I have so many blogs and others, too that is available for everyone to read how obnoxious she became on some of those responses if not aggravation she connects to the arguments.

I'm sure it's her personality but having said that we can all learn a so am I.
Now on my post Woman Leader, I acknowledge in verbatim how she acts so all knowing and superior that she went on accusing me of lack of the command for the English language, which given so, why emphasize kn negativity. Why not enhance a post and add value that we can all learn from.

In regards to this post, I truly appreciate all your additions Tom. I'm finishing my doctorate on international education but I just might change to social behavior, lol.
From what I am reading here, it seems that you have expectations of how people should interact and present themselves on the forums. The problem with that is, no one will fulfill our personal expectations. I repeat what I have written to you previously...we will not change others, but we can change ourselves.

We can change how we react to those things that make us uncomfortable.
We can respond and debate and even lose our temper, but using name-calling and personal insults as a tool of attacking fellow forum members breaks this site's rules.

I have never witnessed Jac using the words moron, idiot, evil, stupid, pathetic, etc. in any of her interactions with people. Even when she has been attacked with these same words.

This is not a post about Jac. It is a post about this thread. Your thread asks a relevant question and your actions are the answer to this question.

That which makes us uncomfortable with others are those things that we dislike about ourselves. If we perceive someone being arrogant and all-knowing, it is because we are quite familiar with those traits in ourselves. That's why we squirm and that's why we react with hostility.
There is a saying that we should be more concerned with the plank in our own eye, rather than the splinter in another's eye.

It was said by a poster that members should not moderate and allow others to speak freely. I absolutely agree with that! What does cross the line though is when we resort to personal insults and childish name calling as our means of debate, which is simply against forum rules. That is not debate and that is not adding anything of value at all to forum discussions.

I have had my say....something TomCat did not allow in his thread. He silenced my voice.

Now I choose to no longer be a participant in your and TomCat's threads. I realize that this means nothing to the two of you and certainly, neither of you will lose any sleep over it. But what it does do is this....I am choosing to no longer invite that negative dynamic into my time spent on these forums, and I choose not to support those members that bully other CS members.
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Jun 9, 2015 12:47 PM CST religious differences
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Kaybee50: From what I am reading here, it seems that you have expectations of how people should interact and present themselves on the forums. The problem with that is, no one will fulfill our personal expectations. I repeat what I have written to you previously...we will not change others, but we can change ourselves.

We can change how we react to those things that make us uncomfortable.
We can respond and debate and even lose our temper, but using name-calling and personal insults as a tool of attacking fellow forum members breaks this site's rules.

I have never witnessed Jac using the words moron, idiot, evil, stupid, pathetic, etc. in any of her interactions with people. Even when she has been attacked with these same words.

This is not a post about Jac. It is a post about this thread. Your thread asks a relevant question and your actions are the answer to this question.

That which makes us uncomfortable with others are those things that we dislike about ourselves. If we perceive someone being arrogant and all-knowing, it is because we are quite familiar with those traits in ourselves. That's why we squirm and that's why we react with hostility.
There is a saying that we should be more concerned with the plank in our own eye, rather than the splinter in another's eye.

It was said by a poster that members should not moderate and allow others to speak freely. I absolutely agree with that! What does cross the line though is when we resort to personal insults and childish name calling as our means of debate, which is simply against forum rules. That is not debate and that is not adding anything of value at all to forum discussions. are one of the ones who affects an attitude of superiority somet


Now I choose to no longer be a participant in your and TomCat's threads. I realize that this means nothing to the two of you and certainly, neither of you will lose any sleep over it. But what it does do is this....I am choosing to no longer invite that negative dynamic into my time spent on these forums, and I choose not to support those members that bully other CS members.


I'm sorry you feet that it is really neither here nor there whether you have your say on my threads.

You don't contribute much anyway.

I will respect your wishes and not contact you.
self at your age
But you must realise you are causing divisions and friction with your divisive attitude.

Try not to stress you

sad flower
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Jun 9, 2015 12:48 PM CST religious differences
lindsyjones: It's amazing how religion represents most our values, beliefs and traditions, and to most it's a way of life. We live in our religion and religion lives within us.
(Atheist excluded)

QUESTION: Can we become more united because of religion? Or are we more divided?

Why?
islam Gives the lesson of Unity
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Jun 9, 2015 12:54 PM CST religious differences
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
Kaybee50: From what I am reading here, it seems that you have expectations of how people should interact and present themselves on the forums. The problem with that is, no one will fulfill our personal expectations. I repeat what I have written to you previously...we will not change others, but we can change ourselves.

We can change how we react to those things that make us uncomfortable.
We can respond and debate and even lose our temper, but using name-calling and personal insults as a tool of attacking fellow forum members breaks this site's rules.

I have never witnessed Jac using the words moron, idiot, evil, stupid, pathetic, etc. in any of her interactions with people. Even when she has been attacked with these same words.

This is not a post about Jac. It is a post about this thread. Your thread asks a relevant question and your actions are the answer to this question.

That which makes us uncomfortable with others are those things that we dislike about ourselves. If we perceive someone being arrogant and all-knowing, it is because we are quite familiar with those traits in ourselves. That's why we squirm and that's why we react with hostility.
There is a saying that we should be more concerned with the plank in our own eye, rather than the splinter in another's eye.

It was said by a poster that members should not moderate and allow others to speak freely. I absolutely agree with that! What does cross the line though is when we resort to personal insults and childish name calling as our means of debate, which is simply against forum rules. That is not debate and that is not adding anything of value at all to forum discussions.

I have had my say....something TomCat did not allow in his thread. He silenced my voice.

Now I choose to no longer be a participant in your and TomCat's threads. I realize that this means nothing to the two of you and certainly, neither of you will lose any sleep over it. But what it does do is this....I am choosing to no longer invite that negative dynamic into my time spent on these forums, and I choose not to support those members that bully other CS members.


Very succinctly stated and I totally agree with you here. thumbs up
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Jun 9, 2015 12:56 PM CST religious differences
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
2intrigued: Very succinctly stated and I totally agree with you here.


A bit of jealousy because two people get alonggrin
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Jun 9, 2015 1:03 PM CST religious differences
2intrigued
2intrigued2intriguedMississauga, Ontario Canada11 Threads 18,576 Posts
tomcatwarne: A bit of jealousy because two people get along


You're kidding me right? roll eyes rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 9, 2015 1:18 PM CST religious differences
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
lindsyjones: A most impressive dissertation on human character Kid, I can't dispute any of these. Let alone ignore it. Perhaps then we're doomed since inception. Now where does learning and development fall in our dispositions and will?


No, we're not doomed, people just need to realise religion is divisive by design, and should be shunned, and eradicated, like the pervasive disease it is.

People can never be united under one religion, and no religion will ever concede to another.
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Jun 9, 2015 2:20 PM CST religious differences
kidatheart: No, we're not doomed, people just need to realise religion is divisive by design, and should be shunned, and eradicated, like the pervasive disease it is.

People can never be united under one religion, and no religion will ever concede to another.


That's good to know Kid and hopefully we can really find peace in our conflicted world.
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Jun 9, 2015 2:27 PM CST religious differences
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Yeh hopefully, but not on CS I have upset the would be VIP's
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Jun 9, 2015 2:36 PM CST religious differences
tomcatwarne: Yeh hopefully, but not on CS I have upset the would be VIP's


Tom let them air some frustrations, this place is for everyone to bicker, appreciate and aver each one's mind. The most important thing is calm down and let it go.
The purpose of every discussion is to agree or disagree, either way there will always be the bully and superior as well as the coy and humble. All of us are all capable at one time or another.

For the pundits enjoy.
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Jun 9, 2015 2:46 PM CST religious differences
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
lindsyjones: Tom let them air some frustrations, this place is for everyone to bicker, appreciate and aver each one's mind. The most important thing is calm down and let it go.
The purpose of every discussion is to agree or disagree, either way there will always be the bully and superior as well as the coy and humble. All of us are all capable at one time or another.

For the pundits enjoy.


bunny
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Jun 9, 2015 2:53 PM CST religious differences
djteel
djteeldjteelSeagoville, Texas USA3 Threads 3 Polls 7 Posts
It's when people decide they can't agree to disagree in a tolerant manner,outside of self righteousness and judgementalism,that religion divides.If people as a rule can agree to disagree without holding one another in contempt ,only THEN can religion Unite.
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Jun 9, 2015 7:54 PM CST religious differences
djteel: It's when people decide they can't agree to disagree in a tolerant manner,outside of self righteousness and judgementalism,that religion divides.If people as a rule can agree to disagree without holding one another in contempt ,only THEN can religion Unite.


Indeed Dj. Thanks for joining in. IF and when we reach that point, we're really going to say, we've achieved peace.
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Jun 9, 2015 8:41 PM CST religious differences
michael63ca
michael63camichael63caVancouver, Alberta Canada50 Threads 2 Polls 784 Posts
lindsyjones: It's amazing how religion represents most our values, beliefs and traditions, and to most it's a way of life. We live in our religion and religion lives within us.
(Atheist excluded)

QUESTION: Can we become more united because of religion? Or are we more divided?

Why?


Peace and Harmony will never exist, Poverty and hunger always will, as long as "religion" of any sort is practiced around the world. "religion" divides/controls people, that is it's sole purpose. and for the record I am NOT an Atheist.
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Jun 9, 2015 9:18 PM CST religious differences
romo56
romo56romo56Yogya, Yogyakarta Indonesia18 Posts
lindsyjones: It's amazing how religion represents most our values, beliefs and traditions, and to most it's a way of life. We live in our religion and religion lives within us.
(Atheist excluded)

QUESTION: Can we become more united because of religion? Or are we more divided?

Why?


In islam there qoute :...your religion is yours mine is mine
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Jun 9, 2015 9:38 PM CST religious differences
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
tomcatwarne: I don't apologise for relaying material usually referenced, which I use in my research.

My thesis was taken from the experts of the world, properly referenced and accepted by my university body

I rather think jack should apologise for posing as an expert in many fields.

She publish as her opinion and properly reference her remarks

Her arguments usually attack personally .ho has had a problem with Jack.
I am not the only one .


You can't seriously believe this.... She comes across as assertive and aggressive and very very inquisitive to me but not arrogant or know it all-ish. Don't be an apple like me but do the right thing here.



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Jun 9, 2015 10:00 PM CST religious differences
lindsyjones: It's amazing how religion represents most our values, beliefs and traditions, and to most it's a way of life. We live in our religion and religion lives within us.
(Atheist excluded)

QUESTION: Can we become more united because of religion? Or are we more divided?

Why?

Depends on the person, What I have noticed, everyone who believes a certain way does not understand how if one person believes one way, it is totally understandable that another who believes differently, well then that is true for them. We are all on a journey with a bit of the same. Thus what I said I believe in all coming together. In many instances Religion helps, to me, the teachings are what I love. I do believe we all are basically believing the same. We have just not realized it yet. ??? Does this make sense. ?? PEACE HH GREAT POST: )
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Jun 9, 2015 11:24 PM CST religious differences
lindsyjones: It's amazing how religion represents most our values, beliefs and traditions, and to most it's a way of life. We live in our religion and religion lives within us.
(Atheist excluded)

QUESTION: Can we become more united because of religion? Or are we more divided?

Why?


Freaking easy question!

As in life some people need and some people need more than others.
Some people need the church to give thanks because thanks needs to be given for the blessed (GOOD) life they have.
When gratitude it due it never hurts to give due to those that gave it to you.
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Jun 9, 2015 11:38 PM CST religious differences
michael63ca
michael63camichael63caVancouver, Alberta Canada50 Threads 2 Polls 784 Posts
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: Freaking easy question!

As in life some people need and some people need more than others.
Some people need the church to give thanks because thanks needs to be given for the blessed (GOOD) life they have.
When gratitude it due it never hurts to give due to those that gave it to you.


so to whom do the suffering, starving, poor and destitute give gratitude to for their blessed good life?
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Jun 10, 2015 8:43 AM CST religious differences
heatherhuntsman: Depends on the person, What I have noticed, everyone who believes a certain way does not understand how if one person believes one way, it is totally understandable that another who believes differently, well then that is true for them. We are all on a journey with a bit of the same. Thus what I said I believe in all coming together. In many instances Religion helps, to me, the teachings are what I love. I do believe we all are basically believing the same. We have just not realized it yet. ??? Does this make sense. ?? PEACE HH GREAT POST: )
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