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Aug 1, 2015 4:59 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Another day, another scientific report about how we’ve all left it too late to have children – or at least more than one, anyway.


New advice suggests that women who’re hoping to have a big family should start trying for their first child at the age of 23 – before most of us even have got our careers on track or found someone serious to get pregnant with.


Scientists looked at fertility data from almost 60,000 women to create an at-a-glance calculator that advises ladies on when you should pregnant. In an ideal world, obviously.
The computer model, published by New Scientist, gives couples an idea of when to start trying for a baby, depending on how many children they would like to have.
Basically, if you’re over the age of 23 and hoping to have more than two kids then you may have a tough time conceiving all three naturally.



As a woman
ages, her ferility chances decreases making it harder to conceive naturally. [Photo: Rex]A woman’s chances are measured in percentages, showing that a 23-year-old woman has a 90 per cent chance of having three children without IVF. At the age of 31, this figure declines to 75 per cent and aged 35 things look even bleaker, with just a 50 per cent of getting pregnant three times naturally.

If you’re happy with just two children, things look slightly better. According to the calculator, you can wait until you’re 27 to start your family and still have a 90 per cent chance of conceiving naturally. At 34 years old, you’ll still be in with a 75 per cent and aged 38 you’ll have 50 per cent chance of getting pregnant without IVF intervention.
Those hoping for one child have the best odds, unsurprisingly. A 32-year-old woman has a 90 per cent chance of conceiving without IVF, a 37-year-old has a 75 per cent chance and a 41-year-old woman is 50 per cent likely to have a baby naturally.

Easier said than done
The chart also shows how IVF can increase a woman’s chance of getting pregnant – but of course there are a number of risks and side effects that come with IVF, such as ectopic birth, multiple births and Ovarian Hyperstimulation Syndrome, a rare complication associated with IVF.

Fertility experts reckon the table should be shown to sixth formers and uni students so that they’re aware of the risks of putting their career first.
“We haven’t got a time machine we can put people in… that’s just a blunt reality,” says professor Allan Pacey, a Sheffield University fertility expert.

“Everyone thinks you can wait – this shows you can’t.”

Ref New Scientist.
Do you think there’s too much conflicting advice on when women should start a family?
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Aug 1, 2015 6:05 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
tomcatwarne: Another day, another scientific report about how we’ve all left it too late to have children – or at least more than one, anyway. New advice suggests that women who’re hoping to have a big family should start trying for their first child at the age of 23 – before most of us even have got our careers on track or found someone serious to get pregnant with.Scientists looked at fertility data from almost 60,000 women to create an at-a-glance calculator that advises ladies on when you should pregnant. In an ideal world, obviously.
The computer model, published by New Scientist, gives couples an idea of when to start trying for a baby, depending on how many children they would like to have.
Basically, if you’re over the age of 23 and hoping to have more than two kids then you may have a tough time conceiving all three naturally.
As a woman
ages, her ferility chances decreases making it harder to conceive naturally. [Photo: Rex]A woman’s chances are measured in percentages, showing that a 23-year-old woman has a 90 per cent chance of having three children without IVF. At the age of 31, this figure declines to 75 per cent and aged 35 things look even bleaker, with just a 50 per cent of getting pregnant three times naturally.

If you’re happy with just two children, things look slightly better. According to the calculator, you can wait until you’re 27 to start your family and still have a 90 per cent chance of conceiving naturally. At 34 years old, you’ll still be in with a 75 per cent and aged 38 you’ll have 50 per cent chance of getting pregnant without IVF intervention.
Those hoping for one child have the best odds, unsurprisingly. A 32-year-old woman has a 90 per cent chance of conceiving without IVF, a 37-year-old has a 75 per cent chance and a 41-year-old woman is 50 per cent likely to have a baby naturally.

Easier said than done
The chart also shows how IVF can increase a woman’s chance of getting pregnant – but of course there are a number of risks and side effects that come with IVF, such as ectopic birth, multiple births and Ovarian Hyperstimulation Syndrome, a rare complication associated with IVF.

Fertility experts reckon the table should be shown to sixth formers and uni students so that they’re aware of the risks of putting their career first.
“We haven’t got a time machine we can put people in… that’s just a blunt reality,” says professor Allan Pacey, a Sheffield University fertility expert.

“Everyone thinks you can wait – this shows you can’t.”

Ref New Scientist.
Do you think there’s too much conflicting advice on when women should start a family?
of course theres a time limit for women...as we all know...but that is ridiculas...so what do they plan to do.....drop the age limit so girls can get married at 12......by 25 have a large family.....hogwash........
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Aug 1, 2015 6:09 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
truheart1941: of course theres a time limit for women...as we all know...but that is ridiculas...so what do they plan to do.....drop the age limit so girls can get married at 12......by 25 have a large family.....hogwash........


I see your point Tru, it seems unfair we can go on making babies ad infinitum.

But it's not really a question of law , it's the medical facts, and I am not responsible for that
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Aug 1, 2015 6:18 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
truheart1941: of course theres a time limit for women...as we all know...but that is ridiculas...so what do they plan to do.....drop the age limit so girls can get married at 12......by 25 have a large family.....hogwash........


thumbs up IF a woman wants a lot of kids (or any kids!) and neither she nor her partner have any problems with conceiving, she can easily have more than 2 between age 30 and 40 or more! Don't need to read any studies to know that, it's just common sense. They're just trying to put the frighteners on people and afraid of the population dropping, which there's no fear of I'd say!
peace
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Aug 1, 2015 6:18 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
tomcatwarne: I see your point Tru, it seems unfair we can go on making babies ad infinitum.

But it's not really a question of law , it's the medical facts, and I am not responsible for that



I didn't read the post (too long grin ), and I am sure there is a 'perfect ' age to have kids, but the fact remains that women can have kids when she is double that age.

Most people aren't mature enough, or ready enough, to have their kids in their early 20s.
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Aug 1, 2015 6:19 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
tomcatwarne: I see your point Tru, it seems unfair we can go on making babies ad infinitum.

But it's not really a question of law , it's the medical facts, and I am not responsible for that
i know that...thumbs up just that thos boffins....spend millions on reserch telling us ,what we already know...(.common sence.).....???
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Aug 1, 2015 6:25 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
DertyHarry44
DertyHarry44DertyHarry44Lakeland, Florida USA91 Threads 1,102 Posts
I believe a man or a woman before start having children should go and
see new horizons, I mean other country than theirs, then after that they can have all the children they wantgift
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Aug 1, 2015 6:27 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
DertyHarry44: I believe a man or a woman before start having children should go and
see new horizons, I mean other country than theirs, then after that they can have all the children they want


Couldn't agree more!!! grin
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Aug 1, 2015 6:28 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
truheart1941: i know that... just that thos boffins....spend millions on reserch telling us ,what we already know...(.common sence.).....???



And my page has an ad above this thread for a vasectomy clinic in Sydney, just to be on the safe side I guess laugh
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Aug 1, 2015 6:28 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
And if they can manage it financially, bring the kids with them. Travel broadens the mind!
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Aug 1, 2015 6:29 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
truheart1941: i know that... just that thos boffins....spend millions on reserch telling us ,what we already know...(.common sence.).....???



Maybe but the facts are.

Hoping To Have Big Family? You Should Start Trying For A Baby Aged 23
Alison ColdridgeAlison Coldridge
July 31, 2015
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Scientists are hoping a new fertility calculator will prompt women to have children earlier. [Photo: Rex]
Another day, another scientific report about how we’ve all left it too late to have children – or at least more than one, anyway.
New advice suggests that women who’re hoping to have a big family should start trying for their first child at the age of 23 – before most of us even have got our careers on track or found someone serious to get pregnant with.
Scientists looked at fertility data from almost 60,000 women to create an at-a-glance calculator that advises ladies on when you should pregnant. In an ideal world, obviously.
The computer model, published by New Scientist, gives couples an idea of when to start trying for a baby, depending on how many children they would like to have.
Basically, if you’re over the age of 23 and hoping to have more than two kids then you may have a tough time conceiving all three naturally.

As a woman ages, her ferility chances decreases making it harder to conceive naturally.
A woman’s chances are measured in percentages, showing that a 23-year-old woman has a 90 per cent chance of having three children without IVF. At the age of 31, this figure declines to 75 per cent and aged 35 things look even bleaker, with just a 50 per cent of getting pregnant three times naturally.


If you’re happy with just two children, things look slightly better. According to the calculator, you can wait until you’re 27 to start your family and still have a 90 per cent chance of conceiving naturally. At 34 years old, you’ll still be in with a 75 per cent and aged 38 you’ll have 50 per cent chance of getting pregnant without IVF intervention.


Those hoping for one child have the best odds, unsurprisingly. A 32-year-old woman has a 90 per cent chance of conceiving without IVF, a 37-year-old has a 75 per cent chance and a 41-year-old woman is 50 per cent likely to have a baby naturally.
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Aug 1, 2015 6:31 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
DertyHarry44
DertyHarry44DertyHarry44Lakeland, Florida USA91 Threads 1,102 Posts
minnieme2: And if they can manage it financially, bring the kids with them. Travel broadens the mind!


laugh I said before having the kidslaugh
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Aug 1, 2015 6:34 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
But unfortunately a woman's biological clock is relentlessly ticking.
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Aug 1, 2015 6:35 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
serene56: And my page has an ad above this thread for a vasectomy clinic in Sydney, to be on the safe side I guess
hi yer...hug dont like the sound of that....its like having a bar of cadburys friut ,n nut...with no nuts init...not the same isit..?????uh oh uh oh uh oh giggle giggle giggle
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Aug 1, 2015 6:40 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
DertyHarry44
DertyHarry44DertyHarry44Lakeland, Florida USA91 Threads 1,102 Posts
my older sister had her daughter in her 40s/no problem whatsoever
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Aug 1, 2015 6:40 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
truheart1941: hi yer... dont like the sound of that....its like having a bar of cadburys friut ,n nut...with no nuts init...not the same isit..?????




Definitely much nicer with something to crunch on yeah hug lol
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Aug 1, 2015 6:43 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
serene56: Definitely much nicer with something to crunch on yeah lol
WHA.......????...crunch on.....whats that number.on the ad.........>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>super giggle giggle
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Aug 1, 2015 6:48 AM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
truheart1941: WHA.......????...crunch on.....whats that number.on the ad.........>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



laugh
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Aug 1, 2015 1:48 PM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
3 kids?

I'd rather shoot myself. uh oh

Looking around my circle of friends and acquaintances, the one that wanted (and were able to) get lots of children all just had them. One friend started in her late thirties and has 4 now.

I also saw that everyone who absolutely wanted to get children kinda took everyone available - these examples are not in happy relationships unfortunately.

The only way for me to start a family is IMO when you have the right partner who wants the same and is on the same page with you. You can meet someone like that when you are 20, but in some cases people are just older.
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Aug 1, 2015 10:40 PM CST Past it at 23, if you want a family.
Ken_19
Ken_19Ken_19Winchester, Virginia USA68 Threads 26 Polls 1,055 Posts
Isn't it socially irresponsible to allow more than two children per couple anyway?
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