Do you believe in tipping? ( Archived) (82)

Mar 7, 2017 6:44 AM CST Do you believe in tipping?
One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
There are certain service industries, that you feel obliged to leave a tip, ie food servers, cab drivers etc.
My question is. Do you feel it's right to tip, when in reality, they should be doing their job to the best of their ability in the first place afterall ,Most other industries don't get tipped for doing what they are employed to do.
What's your opinion ?
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Mar 7, 2017 6:54 AM CST Do you believe in tipping?
Sure,
Depends on how comfortable you feel while under their umbrella !

If I get someone that sticks their finger in my soup or a cab driver that moans and grunts like an animal then no !
Reciprocity is the key to tipping. In my opinion
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Mar 7, 2017 7:01 AM CST Do you believe in tipping?
One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
nonsmoker: Sure,
Depends on how comfortable you feel while under their umbrella !

If I get someone that sticks their finger in my soup or a cab driver that moans and grunts like an animal then no !
Reciprocity is the key to tipping. In my opinion


Why sure people feel obliged to tip, regardless of the service provided?
It's not normal practice to tip a surgeon for a successful operation, so why is it normal to tip a cab driver who takes you from a-b? dunno
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Mar 7, 2017 7:14 AM CST Do you believe in tipping?
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
One of the better sides of living in China is that tipping is almost unheard of, it does happen in major cities, due to wealthy tourists throwing their money around. But in the quieter places, they would be offended if you tipped.
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Mar 7, 2017 7:36 AM CST Do you believe in tipping?
Redex
RedexRedexNorthumberland, England UK36 Threads 1,304 Posts
rizlared: One of the better sides of living in China is that tipping is almost unheard of, it does happen in major cities, due to wealthy tourists throwing their money around. But in the quieter places, they would be offended if you tipped.


Visiting china all tipping was paid up front and our guide did the tipping for us. Plenty of poor people did not mind the clink of change and where grateful.

I liked the idea of guide doing it it stopped a bus load of people filling buy tippin in a hand that to me looks degrading, but folk got a bit more than there measely wage for their [pocket.
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Mar 7, 2017 8:11 AM CST Do you believe in tipping?
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
Tipping should only be for exceptional service. Probably its different in America, I heard the waitresses dont get any wages- only tips. I never left any tip in England if there was service charge on the menu, apparently its enforced tipping.
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Mar 7, 2017 8:37 AM CST Do you believe in tipping?
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
It depends.
In a cafe I wouldn't tip
In a restaurant I usually would, unless either the service or food was bad
taxi drivers, I may, usually just evening it off to the nearest Euro.

People in the service industry here are paid well enough, so tipping is really only for really good servic, or they went out of their way to assist.


If in a poorer country, I would always tip as the staff may be paid very little, or may only be working for tips.
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Mar 7, 2017 8:44 AM CST Do you believe in tipping?
mollybaby
mollybabymollybabyCork City, Cork Ireland56 Threads 8 Polls 23,608 Posts
pat8lanips: Tipping should only be for exceptional service. Probably its different in America, I heard the waitresses dont get any wages- only tips. I never left any tip in England if there was service charge on the menu, apparently its enforced tipping.


Enforced tipping that the staff often do not get
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Mar 7, 2017 9:00 AM CST Do you believe in tipping?
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
Redex: Visiting china all tipping was paid up front and our guide did the tipping for us. Plenty of poor people did not mind the clink of change and where grateful.

I liked the idea of guide doing it it stopped a bus load of people filling buy tippin in a hand that to me looks degrading, but folk got a bit more than there measely wage for their [pocket.


Tour guides get paid by the stores they take the visitors to, they don't get a basic salary unless they are national tour guides. If the tour guide said he would pay the tips, then he put it in his pocket lol.

Tipping is not allowed in some provinces, and begging is illegal, if you give money to a street beggar you can be arrested and severely reprimanded by the local police.

In over 8 years living in China I have never seen a tip given in a restaurant, taxi, hotel etc, unless by some foreigner who doesn't understand local customs, usually Americans as they do it without thinking.
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Mar 7, 2017 9:09 AM CST Do you believe in tipping?
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
In a lot of places a tip is automatically added to the bill it's called a service charge, I avoid places that do this and prefer to tip based on how I am treated.
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Mar 7, 2017 9:10 AM CST Do you believe in tipping?
rizlared
rizlaredrizlaredNot in Cebu City, Central Visayas Philippines89 Threads 2 Polls 5,588 Posts
pat8lanips: Tipping should only be for exceptional service. Probably its different in America, I heard the waitresses dont get any wages- only tips. I never left any tip in England if there was service charge on the menu, apparently its enforced tipping.


I hate that, it should be a customer's choice, not a rule.

In China, at some restaurants, they charge extra if you use their chopsticks and bowls, so a lot of
chinese carry their own sets in little wooden boxes with paper bowls hehehe.

But these are mainly tourist places that locals don't use, and the tourists don't realise they paid for them lol

Living in a tourist city, I see it happen a lot, same with overcharging, if I go to a local bar I pay a lot less for a beer than another foreigner, because they know me lol
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Mar 7, 2017 10:05 AM CST Do you believe in tipping?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
One2note: There are certain service industries, that you feel obliged to leave a tip, ie food servers, cab drivers etc.
My question is. Do you feel it's right to tip, when in reality, they should be doing their job to the best of their ability in the first place afterall ,Most other industries don't get tipped for doing what they are employed to do.
What's your opinion ?


Good service good tip.

Tipping here is expected and I do have bias in favor towards elder and young people, because the younger ones might be working to pay for their school (I usually ask them so) and for elder ones sometimes it seems that they are overworked.

My son (as a teenager) once was working as a waitress in a Mexican style restaurant and one gentleman (American) gave him a big tip, this person had asked my son if he was a student also, at that time my son was attending university. When my son came back home from his waitress work, his socks sometimes would have a hole because of his walking so much up and down but it was important for him to be able to make his own even if partial.

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Mar 7, 2017 10:17 AM CST Do you believe in tipping?
aries1234
aries1234aries1234plymout, Devon, England UK175 Threads 3 Polls 5,672 Posts
lifeisadream: Good service good tip.

Tipping here is expected and I do have bias in favor towards elder and young people, because the younger ones might be working to pay for their school (I usually ask them so) and for elder ones sometimes it seems that they are overworked.

My son (as a teenager) once was working as a waitress in a Mexican style restaurant and one gentleman (American) gave him a big tip, this person had asked my son if he was a student also, at that time my son was attending university. When my son came back home from his waitress work, his socks sometimes would have a hole because of his walking so much up and down but it was important for him to be able to make his own even if partial.


Your son worked as a waitress??????????????
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Mar 7, 2017 10:41 AM CST Do you believe in tipping?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
aries1234: Your son worked as a waitress??????????????


Yes he did (while he was a student) and he also worked in the construction field and that was tough. I do remember him getting home exhausted from the construction work and he was paid by the week, all he made was for him to spent. He would wonder how construction workers could sustain a family with that income?

It was good for my son not only to see but to live how people struggle to meet their needs, now he is an Engineer and he always has cared about other people, another liberal laugh



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Mar 7, 2017 12:00 PM CST Do you believe in tipping?
One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
rizlared: One of the better sides of living in China is that tipping is almost unheard of, it does happen in major cities, due to wealthy tourists throwing their money around. But in the quieter places, they would be offended if you tipped.


Exactly.. The fact that you're eating in their establishment , is praise in itself.thumbs up
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Mar 7, 2017 12:03 PM CST Do you believe in tipping?
One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
aries1234: In a lot of places a tip is automatically added to the bill it's called a service charge, I avoid places that do this and prefer to tip based on how I am treated.


Service charge has become outlawed, and most establishments have adjusted their prices accordingly.
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Mar 7, 2017 12:10 PM CST Do you believe in tipping?
One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
lifeisadream: Good service good tip.

Tipping here is expected and I do have bias in favor towards elder and young people, because the younger ones might be working to pay for their school (I usually ask them so) and for elder ones sometimes it seems that they are overworked.

My son (as a teenager) once was working as a waitress in a Mexican style restaurant and one gentleman (American) gave him a big tip, this person had asked my son if he was a student also, at that time my son was attending university. When my son came back home from his waitress work, his socks sometimes would have a hole because of his walking so much up and down but it was important for him to be able to make his own even if partial.


Most waiting staff are paid little - no money in America & rely heavily in gratuities. My argument is, why are the paid so little, when most restaurants charge enough to cover both stock & rent & rates, not to mention staff wages?
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Mar 7, 2017 12:15 PM CST Do you believe in tipping?
One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
mollybaby: It depends.
In a cafe I wouldn't tip
In a restaurant I usually would, unless either the service or food was bad
taxi drivers, I may, usually just evening it off to the nearest Euro.

People in the service industry here are paid well enough, so tipping is really only for really good servic, or they went out of their way to assist.


If in a poorer country, I would always tip as the staff may be paid very little, or may only be working for tips.


There are people in retail who are poorly paid & who never get tipped.
Why tip a server or a cab driver, when an assistant in a shoe shop could be just , if not more helpful ?
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Mar 7, 2017 12:56 PM CST Do you believe in tipping?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
In the past I've only tipped when it's been deserved.
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Mar 7, 2017 1:03 PM CST Do you believe in tipping?
One2note
One2noteOne2noteLondon, Essex, England UK286 Threads 3 Polls 7,606 Posts
Ccincy: In the past I've only tipped when it's been deserved.


I don't see why you should tip someone for doing their job.
It's not rocket science taking plates back & forth.professor dunno
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