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Sep 29, 2017 12:05 PM CST Son of God
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Bogart_1960: what is your objective Ali, with the thread?

Muslims read/believe the Quran, Christians read/believe the Bible and Jews read/believe the Torah.... and they all believe whatever they claim to be the truth. and guess what, they are all right.

Give it rest sunshine.


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Sep 29, 2017 12:13 PM CST Son of God
DaMooseLives
DaMooseLivesDaMooseLivesWestlock, Alberta Canada16 Threads 619 Posts
ali110: What Bible says about Jesus Christ , does Bible say Jesus Christ is the son of God ?


Those "exact" words? No. But there are multiple allusions towards it. Signed the Atheist who has read them all.
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Sep 29, 2017 12:14 PM CST Son of God
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
chris27292729: So??? If Islam is so perfect,why the killings and forcing people to convert to Islam.???


that´s not a fact. I'm don't believe in Islam (I was brought up as Catholic) but I do take the time to study and learn about other religions.

I've lived in a Muslim country, and I have friends who are Muslims and no one has ever forced their beliefs down on me. However, when I go to some city center I do see pseudo Christians shoving Bibles in people's face shouting out verses from the bible saying "we will all go hell", if we dont convert.

Fanatics and idiots act like that. Extremist do force and kill. EVERY RELIGION !|
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Sep 29, 2017 12:28 PM CST Son of God
ChesneyChrist
ChesneyChristChesneyChristManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK7,144 Posts
Yes, and what's great is that Jesus and indeed god die. Chrisitianity on the moment where god stops believing in himself and this was the way out for humanity. From god in everything, to lots of gods, to one supreme god to finally the radical absence of god(god's death in history). There is no big other to make you feel anxious in Christianity, what there is is the holy spirit; the egalitarian community on earth - we are all we have and there is no god coming to save us. Christianity was destined to become atheism imo, it's fundamentally based on that moment of doubt and the divergence of god from the earth.
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Sep 29, 2017 12:45 PM CST Son of God
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Bogart_1960: that´s not a fact. I'm don't believe in Islam (I was brought up as Catholic) but I do take the time to study and learn about other religions.

I've lived in a Muslim country, and I have friends who are Muslims and no one has ever forced their beliefs down on me. However, when I go to some city center I do see pseudo Christians shoving Bibles in people's face shouting out verses from the bible saying "we will all go hell", if we dont convert.

Fanatics and idiots act like that. Extremist do force and kill. EVERY RELIGION !|



In our current days it is only an indisputable fact,that it is only ONE religion doing
the killings, And that is ISLAM.
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Sep 29, 2017 12:50 PM CST Son of God
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
chris27292729: In our current days it is only an indisputable fact,that it is only ONE religion doing
the killings, And that is ISLAM FANATICS.


corrected. fanatics dont represent religion, and for sure Islam Fanatics don't represent Islam. , they represent their delusional minds. .

How are you Chris, Hope all is well with you.


Btw, fantastic archaeological discovery in Greece - Lost Temple of Artemis Discovered in Evia Island .wave
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Sep 29, 2017 1:37 PM CST Son of God
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
Bogart_1960: corrected. fanatics dont represent religion, and for sure Islam Fanatics don't represent Islam. , they represent their delusional minds. .

How are you Chris, Hope all is well with you.


Btw, fantastic archaeological discovery in Greece - Lost Temple of Artemis Discovered in Evia Island .


Whom represent is none of my businnes,but the killing is done in the name of Islam.

And some people in "Religion and Archeology" thread claimed,there isn't connection,
between the 2.-

So far so good,everything OK.

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Sep 29, 2017 5:10 PM CST Son of God
whitelily1: Yes Ali, myself as a Christian I believe Jesus Christ is the son of God. This is what we believe (as a Christian)
This is about the term using in the old and new testament. Jesus Christ are called Son of God, while followers of Jesus are called Sons of God.
the term is a reference to his role as the Messiah, the King chosen by God. And it is clear God gave Jesus power to do miracles, because God pleased Him . the bible mention about the voice from Heaven about Jesus is God's beloved son.
Further in the Christians bible doctrine also explained about Trinity, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy spirit

In the bible there is 26 verses mention about Jesus Christ, Son of God.
(https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Jesus-Christ,-Son-Of-God)
In the New Testament, "Son of God" is applied to Jesus on many occasions. Jesus is declared to be the Son of God on separate occasions by a voice speaking from Heaven directly (reff. when Jesus was baptized by John the Baptized there is voice speaking from Heaven )
There is many occasion mention in the bible Jesus is the Son of God, also proove from the testimonies from witnesses about the voices from heaven.

As a moslem I know you are also believe about Isa or Messiah or Imam Mahdi as a Son of Allah
Im not expert to explain about this matter, but this is what I know and believe as a Christian. If you wants to know more about Jesus Christ Son of God, i know there is Bible already translate in Urdu language, perhaps it will be easy for you to read and understand about what we Christian believe.

This is a good post, in my humble opinion, there is pro and cons among us , but we cannot force opinion of what we believe to the non believers. There will be never ending story, becos this is about personal faith between the person and God
if you ask the Christian people they will give different opinion with the non Christian. So dont be confused.

Have a good Friday to you Ali, Wassalam
Hi Lily wave
very Good post from your side , Thank you .
Yes you are right , I do believe Jesus is messenger of Allah /God , Imam Mehdi and Jesus Christ have to come to rule the world and to fulfill the world with peace and justice , wine
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Sep 29, 2017 5:11 PM CST Son of God
whitelily1: Yes Ali, myself as a Christian I believe Jesus Christ is the son of God. This is what we believe (as a Christian)
This is about the term using in the old and new testament. Jesus Christ are called Son of God, while followers of Jesus are called Sons of God.
the term is a reference to his role as the Messiah, the King chosen by God. And it is clear God gave Jesus power to do miracles, because God pleased Him . the bible mention about the voice from Heaven about Jesus is God's beloved son.
Further in the Christians bible doctrine also explained about Trinity, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy spirit

In the bible there is 26 verses mention about Jesus Christ, Son of God.
(https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Jesus-Christ,-Son-Of-God)
In the New Testament, "Son of God" is applied to Jesus on many occasions. Jesus is declared to be the Son of God on separate occasions by a voice speaking from Heaven directly (reff. when Jesus was baptized by John the Baptized there is voice speaking from Heaven )
There is many occasion mention in the bible Jesus is the Son of God, also proove from the testimonies from witnesses about the voices from heaven.

As a moslem I know you are also believe about Isa or Messiah or Imam Mahdi as a Son of Allah
Im not expert to explain about this matter, but this is what I know and believe as a Christian. If you wants to know more about Jesus Christ Son of God, i know there is Bible already translate in Urdu language, perhaps it will be easy for you to read and understand about what we Christian believe.

This is a good post, in my humble opinion, there is pro and cons among us , but we cannot force opinion of what we believe to the non believers. There will be never ending story, becos this is about personal faith between the person and God
if you ask the Christian people they will give different opinion with the non Christian. So dont be confused.

Have a good Friday to you Ali, Wassalam
some people said Bible doesn't say Jesus is son of God ,wine
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Sep 29, 2017 5:14 PM CST Son of God
CuddlingSoul: Hi ali ... Yes, Jesus Christ is the son of God. In private, with no one else around, simply speak-out, "Lord Jesus Christ, come into my life". And soon, the Lord will reveal himself to you, in ways that you can't imagine right now. He will stay with you as long as you seek his ways. ... In the beginning of your new found relationship with the Lord, expect life to become much better ... Tons of information online about the will of God for your life through his son, Jesus.
Jesus will come of course
Hi Cuddle wave
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Sep 29, 2017 9:14 PM CST Son of God
whitelily1
whitelily1whitelily1Jakarta, Indonesia443 Posts
ali110: some people said Bible doesn't say Jesus is son of God ,


Need to read the Bible and understand what is written before say something
also it depends from what views the people giving their opinions.
Reading and study the bible As a Christian or believers Or reading bible as a source of knowledge and scientification research
sure they will give an antagonist opinion, because after all it is about personal Faith, a private personal believe between the person and the Creator and what is written in the bible. Everybody if free to give their opinion

You know, Faith can't be compare with Science human's logic in many ways

Happy Weekend :)
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Sep 30, 2017 1:28 PM CST Son of God
britishcolumbian
britishcolumbianbritishcolumbianunknown, British Columbia Canada153 Threads 894 Posts
ali110: What Bible says about Jesus Christ , does Bible say Jesus Christ is the son of God ?



Does Jesus in fact say that He is God’s Son, not just infer it?

Mark says it at the outset of his gospel (1:1).

The angel told Mary her child would be the Son of God (Luke 1:35).

John the Baptist said the same thing (John 1:34).

Nathanael said it (John 1:49).

Martha believed it (John 11:27).

The centurion said so (Matthew 27:54).

Jesus claimed that He said so (John 10:36).

Jesus clearly implies it in John 11:4.

The demons called Jesus the Son of God (Matthew 8:29; Luke 4:41; Mark 3:11).

The charge against Jesus was that He claimed to be the Son of God (Matthew 27:43; John 19:7), a claim He never denied, and virtually admitted (Luke 22:70).

The Gospel of John was written to convince the reader that Jesus was the Son of God (John 20:31).

Why, you might ask, does Jesus not say so plainly. I think the answer is found in Matthew 16:15-17:

15 He said to them, “And who do you say that I am?” 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus answered him, “You are blessed, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but my Father in heaven!” (Matthew 16:15-17).

Jesus did not want Peter and His disciples to believe He was the Son of God just because He said so. He wanted God to bring them to this conclusion, based upon the overwhelming evidence of Scripture and our Lord’s life and teaching.

Related Topics: Christology
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Sep 30, 2017 1:55 PM CST Son of God
bodleing2
bodleing2bodleing2Manchester, Greater Manchester, England UK84 Threads 6,132 Posts
There's quite a lot of evidence to suggest that Jesus was in fact a Buddhist Monk. He was in any case, clearly a fully enlightened being, whoever his dad was...
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Sep 30, 2017 2:00 PM CST Son of God
britishcolumbian
britishcolumbianbritishcolumbianunknown, British Columbia Canada153 Threads 894 Posts
ali110: What Bible says about Jesus Christ , does Bible say Jesus Christ is the son of God ?


The Baptism of Jesus
Mathew 3-17
…As soon as Jesus was baptized, He went up out of the water.
Suddenly the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and resting on Him.
And a voice from heaven said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased!”
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Sep 30, 2017 2:05 PM CST Son of God
britishcolumbian
britishcolumbianbritishcolumbianunknown, British Columbia Canada153 Threads 894 Posts
Study Bible
Jesus Prays on the Mount of Olives
…41And He withdrew about a stone’s throw beyond them, where He knelt down and prayed, 42“Father, if You are willing, take this cup from Me. Yet not My will, but Yours be done.” 43Then an angel from heaven appeared to Him and strengthened Him.…
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Cross References
Matthew 6:10
Your kingdom come, Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.

Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus declared, "I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.

Matthew 11:26
Yes, Father, for this was well-pleasing in Your sight.

Matthew 20:22
"You do not know what you are asking," Jesus replied. "Are you able to drink the cup I am going to drink?" "We are able," the brothers answered.

Matthew 26:39
Going a little farther, He fell facedown and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me. Yet not as I will, but as You will."

Matthew 26:42
A second time He went away and prayed, "My Father, if this cup cannot pass unless I drink it, may Your will be done."

Luke 23:34
Then Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." And they divided up His garments by casting lots.

John 18:11
"Put your sword back in its sheath!" Jesus said to Peter. "Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given Me?"


How many more do you need?
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Sep 30, 2017 2:40 PM CST Son of God
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
Why does Apple keep making new IPhones? dunno
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Sep 30, 2017 2:51 PM CST Son of God
britishcolumbian
britishcolumbianbritishcolumbianunknown, British Columbia Canada153 Threads 894 Posts
ali110: What Bible says about Jesus Christ , does Bible say Jesus Christ is the son of God ?



15 He said to them, “And who do you say that I am?” 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17 And Jesus answered him, “You are blessed, Simon son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but my Father in heaven!” (Matthew 16:15-17).
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Sep 30, 2017 8:20 PM CST Son of God
whitelily1
whitelily1whitelily1Jakarta, Indonesia443 Posts
Bogart_1960: Why does Apple keep making new IPhones?


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Nov 15, 2017 1:38 PM CST Son of God
ali110: What Bible says about Jesus Christ , does Bible say Jesus Christ is the son of God ?



Jesus is the Son of God...



John 20:31
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.

1 John 5:5
Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?



Jesus is also the mighty God, and the everlasting Father.


Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.



God purchased our souls with his own blood...


Acts 20:28
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.




All the fullness of the Godhead dwells bodily in Jesus...

Colossians 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
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Nov 15, 2017 2:07 PM CST Son of God
MikeD12
MikeD12MikeD12Broadstairs, Kent, England UK16 Threads 2 Polls 2,809 Posts
Who of Who? dunno
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