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Dec 29, 2017 7:14 PM CST Astrology
I read once that Libra is the first sign going in the direction of ''the other'', rather than being self-centred. The first six signs - Aries to Virgo apparently focus mostly on their own selves, whether the latter 6 focus more on their relationships with other people. At least that's the excuse I give when I'm being self-centred!
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Dec 29, 2017 7:15 PM CST Astrology
MsContessa: I was born on the Cusp of Magic but I tend to have more Gemini traits... Have no idea what sign I should look for in a partner..


The Cusp of Magic? That's new to me!!!!
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Dec 29, 2017 7:20 PM CST Astrology
galrads: So, what’s the best match for my cancer self?


Pisces or Scorpio would usually be considered good matches for a Canceriancheers
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Dec 29, 2017 8:12 PM CST Astrology
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
Deedee123x: Meh kinda.
I'm joking.
Yes it did.
Just one point I'd like to make....u say u are not good at showing emotion " because of how u were raised'
That your not socially ept ' because of how u were raised'

You stopped being under ur families influence at the age of 18.
Anything from there on that u didn't want to accept u cud have learnt to drop it.
Also anything u didn't learn but felt u shud was then ur responsibility to learn for urself.

So u really should not lay the blame any longer at ur families doorstep.
If u want to be more sociable u can...if u want to be more emotive ..u can


I'm NOT blaming my family, Dee. I just saying that THAT was how it was, for ME. I DIDN'T learn, when I SHOULD have been learning. And I just HAVEN'T learned, since. Well, that may NOT be entirely true. I DO know the traditional "etiquette" of social interaction. And I understand the "mores" of different "cultures". But I have a certain "insecurity" about interacting with people, these days. I guess you could say that I have "FAITH" issues. (I started to write "trust" issues. But that's not really "it". I trust people, even when I KNOW better! I CONSCIOUSLY CHOOSE to trust even those I KNOW I shouldn't! Because THAT is the person I CHOOSE to be. I WANT to be! I'm sorta like Diogenes. But UNLIKE him, I'm NOT searching for an honest man. I learned VERY EARLY ON that NONE of us are absolutely honest! I'm searching for a "trust" WORTHY man! And I learned, early on, that people AREN'T trustworthy! That, at least up to THIS point, NO person I've ever met DIDN'T have a "line" of "self interest" that they WOULDN'T cross, REGARDLESS of any "commitments" they had made! "I" BELIEVE that they/we/"I" SHOULD BE willing to "stand up and be counted". And "I" TRY to live that belief. But I ADMIT that I've pretty much lost "faith" of ever finding such a person. [I mentioned, earlier, that I'm OVERLY "idealistic and "moralistic". I WAS brought up to "BELIEVE" in certain things. And THAT has ALWAYS been a "problem", for me. I STILL believe in God, and country, and mom's blackberry cobbler {MY mom didn't make "apple pies". She made blackberry cobbler from the gallons of berries my dad and I used to bring home, every year.}, even though experience has TAUGHT me that THAT is all BS! I was TAUGHT to believe that. And I WANT to believe that. So I ACT as if it WERE true!] So I TRY to "trust" people. But I've pretty much LOST any "faith" I once had, concerning ever finding such a person. So I'm sorta "withdrawn" in/from my interactions with people. I KNOW the basic "principles" involved. And I COULD be good at it. I once was PRETTY GOOD. Maybe it would be MORE correct, for me to say that I'm NOT good, because I'm not INTERESTED in being "good", anymore. I don't TRY to be good at interacting with people, anymore. I'm pretty much tired of "believing", now. I don't have the "FAITH" that I once had. I guess you could say, with MUCH accuracy, that I just don't CARE, anymore.

Plus, I'm an introvert, by nature. Which doesn't contribute to any DESIRE to be good at interacting with people. When I say that I'm NOT good at showing emotion, I'm NOT saying that I don't/won't show emotion. But I do it very "bluntly/rawly". I DON'T "dress it up" for people's perusal. I'm NOT "sophisticated" in that way. Because I have no desire to BE "sophisticated". Bottom line, Dee, I'm one of the SIMPLEST men you'll ever meet. But, in OTHER ways, I'm probably MORE "complex" than most. You COULD say I'm so smart, I'm dumb! A GOOD summation.

I sometimes say that "I" THINK too much, for my own good. Life would be MUCH SIMPLER, if I'd just LIVE it, instead of examining every little detail of it. Actually, I do pretty good, when I live on the fly! But I've NEVER LEARNED how to turn off my brain, either. MY mind has a mind of its own! And I'm just along for the ride! confused dunno doh frustrated sad flower
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Dec 29, 2017 9:55 PM CST Astrology
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
Deedee123x: Meh kinda.
I'm joking.
Yes it did.
Just one point I'd like to make....u say u are not good at showing emotion " because of how u were raised'
That your not socially ept ' because of how u were raised'

You stopped being under ur families influence at the age of 18.
Anything from there on that u didn't want to accept u cud have learnt to drop it.
Also anything u didn't learn but felt u shud was then ur responsibility to learn for urself.

So u really should not lay the blame any longer at ur families doorstep.
If u want to be more sociable u can...if u want to be more emotive ..u can


I read back over your commentary, and my reply, Dee. And I THINK you are laboring under a misconception that I DIDN'T deal with, directly, in my reply. So I'm adding this.

When I say that I didn't "learn" from my family, I'm NOT "blaming" ANYBODY! For ANYTHING! I'm simply making an observation that I THINK has some bearing on the topic under discussion. There's NOTHING to "blame" my family for! My family was MY family. NOT "good". NOT "bad". NOT "right". NOT "wrong". It was just THE family "I" grew up in. (Personally, "I" think my parents were ABOVE AVERAGE parents!)

I AM "judgmental". But I don't NORMALLY air my judgments to the world. MY judgments are only applicable/have value to ME! And so, I don't see that they would be "of interest" to anyone else.

So, while you may PERCEIVE my statements as placing "blame" on my parents, for MY "ineptitude", that's NOT the case, at all. When I say that "I" failed to learn, I'm NOT saying that it was MY FAMILY'S job to teach me! And that THEY failed! I'm saying that "I" FAILED to learn. Because I DIDN'T see this "emotional display" in my house/day to day life, it just never occurred/didn't seem to be IMPORTANT to me, that I SHOULD learn it. My family, and my life proceeded along their way, very well and pleasantly. I'm NOT the product of MY family. (Although, certainly, they WERE a major "influence" in "molding" me.) I'm ME. And EVERYTHING that's been a part of my life has contributed IT'S influence, to make me who/how I am. Along with my genetic predispositions.

HAD my family BEEN emotionally demonstrative, then I PROBABLY would have perceived it as something of SOME importance. And would, most likely, have become interested ENOUGH, to invest some time in understanding and learning all the little "tricks" of social interaction and emoting. But THAT DIDN'T happen. There's NO "blame" to be placed! And your PERCEPTION that I'm "placing blame" is a complete MISconception/interpretation of what I'm saying. My family CAN'T/COULDN'T be "blamed" for failing a responsibility they DIDN'T have! They fed me. They clothed me. They schooled me. They loved me. They spent MUCH time and money seeing to my welfare! In EVERY WAY they perceived/knew how. Would that MOST families did as well by their children, as mine did, by me!

If I were to "blame" my parents for ANYTHING, it would be that they DIDN'T make me "work" as hard as they SHOULD have! I would be a BETTER person, today, IF they had! But then, THAT would have changed the trajectory of my life. And who knows WHERE that might have led me! I MIGHT have become a VERY DIFFERENT person! But I MIGHT have still become the person I AM, today. We'll NEVER know! Because it DIDN'T happen. Just like I DIDN'T learn the "niceties" of social interactions. No "blame". Just "observation". dunno teddybear
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Dec 30, 2017 2:02 AM CST Astrology
MsContessa
MsContessaMsContessaMayo, Ireland24 Threads 1,227 Posts
cally77: The Cusp of Magic? That's new to me!!!!


For those born around the 21/22 of June, therefore have 2 stars... Gemini and Cancer...
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Dec 30, 2017 6:41 PM CST Astrology
MsContessa: For those born around the 21/22 of June, therefore have 2 stars... Gemini and Cancer...


Oh ok, the Cusp of Magic - sounds very cool!
I've a feeling any sign would work well for you
but maybe especially Aquarius, and if you're brave -
Scorpio!
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Jan 1, 2018 7:01 AM CST Astrology
Maya74
Maya74Maya74Atlanta, Georgia USA7 Threads 170 Posts
cally77: To be honest I don't know too much about how the I Ching works...but I wonder has the binary system of the broken and unbroken lines something to do with the Yin and Yang principle?

Yes, they do. :)

cally77: I have also read the Tao Te Ching and it is one of my favourite books. I think we have really lost the presence of the Tao in our society - that natural flow of spontaneous and healthy energy. I keep wondering how will we get it back, but I can't find the answer!!!

As a society - hardly, but we can try on a personal level.

cally77: A strange episode I had with the I Ching is this: I once asked a particular question and used the coin method to get the hexagram. Later I forgot what the change lines were so I said before rolling the coins again - ''Give me the same hexagram as beore and show me the change lines.'' It gave me the same hexagram again! There was a 1 in 64 chance of getting the same hexagram again and yet it happened! I was quite amazed! I haven't consulted the I Ching for a long time now though.


It happened to me once - the same hexagram - 3 times in a row! I didn't like it's meaning, it was something like: 'there's no point in moving in any direction - the wise man knows when to stand still and when to move. This is NOT the time for any kind of action' and I wanted to 'do something about it' so much that I kept asking I Ching the same question and got the same hexagram 3 times! Then I stopped and accepted the reality. laugh
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Jan 1, 2018 9:47 PM CST Astrology
Maya74:





It happened to me once - the same hexagram - 3 times in a row! I didn't like it's meaning, it was something like: 'there's no point in moving in any direction - the wise man knows when to stand still and when to move. This is NOT the time for any kind of action' and I wanted to 'do something about it' so much that I kept asking I Ching the same question and got the same hexagram 3 times! Then I stopped and accepted the reality.



That is really amazing! 3 in a row! And do you think it was the right advice now
when you look back on the situation?

One of the most memorable I Ching readings for me was about a love relationship.
I got hexagram 28...which gives the image of a tree being overwhelmed by a flood
of water. The advice, similar to your one, was to stand still like a tree and do nothing,
just let the water wash over me. Well, I survived the flood...just about!applause
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Jan 5, 2018 5:43 AM CST Astrology
Maya74
Maya74Maya74Atlanta, Georgia USA7 Threads 170 Posts
cally77: That is really amazing! 3 in a row! And do you think it was the right advice now
when you look back on the situation?


Yes.

cally77: One of the most memorable I Ching readings for me was about a love relationship.
I got hexagram 28...which gives the image of a tree being overwhelmed by a flood
of water. The advice, similar to your one, was to stand still like a tree and do nothing,
just let the water wash over me. Well, I survived the flood...just about!


Yesterday I got hexagram 59. I haven't consulted I Ching for a long time and when I saw it (no changing lines) I knew this was not good news (although the explanation suggested otherwise)! laugh And it wasn't. I didn't sleep all night and cried for 2 hours today. laugh

I came back to CS to cheer myself up a little bit. heart1

So, you think that Saturn coming back home to Capricorn won't have a VEEEEEERY bad effect on my love life for the next 1,5 years, despite my Moon and Venus being in Capricorn? Please, say it won't. crying laugh
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Jan 5, 2018 7:24 PM CST Astrology
Maya74: Yes.



Yesterday I got hexagram 59. I haven't consulted I Ching for a long time and when I saw it (no changing lines) I knew this was not good news (although the explanation suggested otherwise)! And it wasn't. I didn't sleep all night and cried for 2 hours today.

I came back to CS to cheer myself up a little bit.


So, you think that Saturn coming back home to Capricorn won't have a VEEEEEERY bad effect on my love life for the next 1,5 years, despite my Moon and Venus being in Capricorn? Please, say it won't.


Hey Maya,

Hexagram 59 seems to be pretty good, Legge's version of the I Ching says of 59: ''Expansion intimates that there will be progress and success. The king goes to his ancestral temple. It will be advantageous to cross the great stream. It will be advantageous to be firm and correct.'' All good for you!!!

I consulted the I Ching yesterday - for the first time in about 3 years. It was about someone special I met last year but no longer have contact with. I got hexagram 52 :Keeping Still. Says I must be like a mountain - doing nothing and remaining alone! It does reflect the situation rather accurately.

Pluto is in Capricorn at the moment, and Pluto brings a lot of hidden things to the surface. Let them come to the surface I say - it will be good to release them. You be will refreshed when that process finishes. And anyway, Capricorn is probably one of the strongest signs in the whole zodiac: it is grounded, solid, and capable. Even if things seem less than good on the surface, underneath there is strength and stamina. Someone with their Moon and Venus in Capricorn can withstand any storm, and when the storm is over they emerge, just as strong, or even stronger than before. Now I'm envious and want to have my Moon and Venus in Capricorn too!!!
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Jan 6, 2018 1:34 AM CST Astrology
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
cally77: I must say that Libra woman left a massive impression on me! Her intelligence was something else, and something I respected her for deeply. But she was a bit of a ''game-player'', frequently doing things to test my loyalty to her, and that wore thin after a few months.


Hi Cally

I was just going back over the various posts. And thought I might comment on this one. Maybe give you a little different "perspective" on "things".

#1. I know NOTHING about the woman you speak of. So my comments don't apply, to HER, specifically.

#2. Being a Libra, with a Libra ascendant, myself, I have a sort of "special" view of Librans, their actions and traits.

As you say, Librans are one of the more "intelligent" signs, in the zodiac. They're an air sign. And air signs (Libra, Aquarius, Gemini) are the ONLY sign that can enter, mix, and penetrate with/through ALL the other signs of the zodiac. Their minds are quick and agile, jumping mountains in a moment, that it might take a Tauran decades to cross.

But that is sorta a two edged sword. Because they ARE so quick and facile, mentally, they also tend to get bored, quickly and easily. (They may already have formulated a solution, while others are still trying to understand the question.) And so, they may play intellectual "games", most often with themselves, but sometimes with others/the world. These are SELDOM "malicious", or done with "ulterior motives" (other than intellectual "gymnastics", simply for the sake of "exercising" their brains). And they ALL have an "ENCOMPASSING" curiosity, so those "games" may wander far afield, into areas that are incomprehensible, to others. Places, things, and ideas that just WOULDN'T occur, to most people. And, PARTICULARLY with the more "detached" (emotionally) Librans (remember, Librans are the ONLY sign of the zodiac that ISN'T a "living" being! So, while a Libran DOES "feel", they are MUCH LESS LIKELY to be "swayed" from their course, by those "feelings", than any other sign.), "feelings" are something that "atracks" their "attention". They see the effects/affects of emotions, in others, all around them. But, because of THEIR "detachment", they don't really "understand" the HOW/WHY of other's emotional attachment to "things". So it's not unusual (ESPECIALLY for Librans, more so than Aquarians and Geminis), to "involve" emotions, in their "games". Basically, they're just "exploring". But that "exploring" might easily be interpreted as "doubt", or "questioning", by others. Which is not, NECESSARILY, the case!

Air signs are often somewhat "difficult" for others to "read", because their "nature" is so "alien", to that of the other signs. Aquarian women can, in some ways, be seen as the "mother", of the zodiac. They're the "water bearer". The fixed (firmly committed) air sign. Concerned, caring, nurturing, "involved/engaged" in WHATEVER attracts their "attention". The Geminis are the "gadflies" of the zodiac. They're the mutable (changeable) air sign. So trying to "follow" THEIR interests/attention (which can alter 38 times, and return to it's ORIGINAL "object", before you CAN notice), is, for all intents and purposes, useless, not to mention frustrating! The best description of a Gemini might be that "life" amuses them. But Librans are the "Cardinal" (primary - MOST "air" like) air sign, and fall SOMEWHERE in the middle. Their ideas/views/commitments can change, more easily than an Aquarian's, but are not so superficial as a Geminis. So they can "engage" ardently, but "disengage" in the blink of an eye. The smallest feather might tip their "scales", here, while ALL of the Himalayas might not, there! Librans are ALWAYS, and CONSTANTLY, weighing/measuring/inspecting EVERY "thing".

Anyway, just MY "view" of air signs, generally, and Librans, specifically. dunno handshake handshake
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Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
cally77: I read once that Libra is the first sign going in the direction of ''the other'', rather than being self-centred. The first six signs - Aries to Virgo apparently focus mostly on their own selves, whether the latter 6 focus more on their relationships with other people. At least that's the excuse I give when I'm being self-centred!


This was interesting, because I haven't heard it, before. I'll have to investigate it, a little! Thanks! doh handshake cheers
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Jan 6, 2018 8:19 AM CST Astrology
Maya74
Maya74Maya74Atlanta, Georgia USA7 Threads 170 Posts
cally77: Hexagram 59 seems to be pretty good, Legge's version of the I Ching says of 59: ''Expansion intimates that there will be progress and success. The king goes to his ancestral temple. It will be advantageous to cross the great stream. It will be advantageous to be firm and correct.'' All good for you!!!


At the moment, it doesn't seem like that, but time will tell. wink

cally77: Someone with their Moon and Venus in Capricorn can withstand any storm, and when the storm is over they emerge, just as strong, or even stronger than before. Now I'm envious and want to have my Moon and Venus in Capricorn too!!!


Your words sound comforting. cheers wink
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Jan 10, 2018 6:50 PM CST Astrology
Hi,

Thanks for your post....definitely very revealing into the Libran way of being!
When I think back on the particular Libran I dated she actually strikes me
as nearly indistinguishable from a Gemini....the love of books and quick thinking,
the ability to enter a room and mingle freely (something I can’t do at all !)
and a sort of lightness of emotion - not a lack of it, just not an intensity of emotion.
She was kinda like a butterfly, but I needed to be with some other kind of creature
it seems!!! Just haven’t figured out which one yetbeer
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Jan 10, 2018 6:59 PM CST Astrology
Maya74: At the moment, it doesn't seem like that, but time will tell.



Your words sound comforting.




By the way, there’s an interesting Vedic astrology site I found,
you might know it already, it’s called barbarapijan...if you
google it and include your moon sign it will give you a really detailed
description of yourself. There’s lots of other interesting stuff on her site too...Enjoy!wine
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Jan 11, 2018 8:10 AM CST Astrology
Maya74
Maya74Maya74Atlanta, Georgia USA7 Threads 170 Posts
cally77: By the way, there’s an interesting Vedic astrology site I found,
you might know it already, it’s called barbarapijan...if you
google it and include your moon sign it will give you a really detailed
description of yourself. There’s lots of other interesting stuff on her site too...Enjoy!


Thank you. cheers
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Jan 11, 2018 4:28 PM CST Astrology
Let_Us
Let_UsLet_UsAnaheim, California USA9 Threads 1,017 Posts
cally77: By the way, there’s an interesting Vedic astrology site I found,
you might know it already, it’s called barbarapijan...if you
google it and include your moon sign it will give you a really detailed
description of yourself. There’s lots of other interesting stuff on her site too...Enjoy!


I'm sorry, but I searched this site. And I can't figure out where or how to input any info, and get any output. Now, I KNOW I'm not particularly technically "savvy". doh So could you provide a little more "how to" details? Thanks. handshake
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Jan 12, 2018 12:57 PM CST Astrology
Uranus is aquamarine.

It only looks green, because of the methane that surrounds it.
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Jan 12, 2018 1:25 PM CST Astrology
Deedee123x
Deedee123xDeedee123xLimerick, Ireland69 Threads 4,795 Posts
Let_Us: Hi Cally

I was just going back over the various posts. And thought I might comment on this one. Maybe give you a little different "perspective" on "things".

#1. I know NOTHING about the woman you speak of. So my comments don't apply, to HER, specifically.

#2. Being a Libra, with a Libra ascendant, myself, I have a sort of "special" view of Librans, their actions and traits.

As you say, Librans are one of the more "intelligent" signs, in the zodiac. They're an air sign. And air signs (Libra, Aquarius, Gemini) are the ONLY sign that can enter, mix, and penetrate with/through ALL the other signs of the zodiac. Their minds are quick and agile, jumping mountains in a moment, that it might take a Tauran decades to cross.

But that is sorta a two edged sword. Because they ARE so quick and facile, mentally, they also tend to get bored, quickly and easily. (They may already have formulated a solution, while others are still trying to understand the question.) And so, they may play intellectual "games", most often with themselves, but sometimes with others/the world. These are SELDOM "malicious", or done with "ulterior motives" (other than intellectual "gymnastics", simply for the sake of "exercising" their brains). And they ALL have an "ENCOMPASSING" curiosity, so those "games" may wander far afield, into areas that are incomprehensible, to others. Places, things, and ideas that just WOULDN'T occur, to most people. And, PARTICULARLY with the more "detached" (emotionally) Librans (remember, Librans are the ONLY sign of the zodiac that ISN'T a "living" being! So, while a Libran DOES "feel", they are MUCH LESS LIKELY to be "swayed" from their course, by those "feelings", than any other sign.), "feelings" are something that "atracks" their "attention". They see the effects/affects of emotions, in others, all around them. But, because of THEIR "detachment", they don't really "understand" the HOW/WHY of other's emotional attachment to "things". So it's not unusual (ESPECIALLY for Librans, more so than Aquarians and Geminis), to "involve" emotions, in their "games". Basically, they're just "exploring". But that "exploring" might easily be interpreted as "doubt", or "questioning", by others. Which is not, NECESSARILY, the case!

Air signs are often somewhat "difficult" for others to "read", because their "nature" is so "alien", to that of the other signs. Aquarian women can, in some ways, be seen as the "mother", of the zodiac. They're the "water bearer". The fixed (firmly committed) air sign. Concerned, caring, nurturing, "involved/engaged" in WHATEVER attracts their "attention". The Geminis are the "gadflies" of the zodiac. They're the mutable (changeable) air sign. So trying to "follow" THEIR interests/attention (which can alter 38 times, and return to it's ORIGINAL "object", before you CAN notice), is, for all intents and purposes, useless, not to mention frustrating! The best description of a Gemini might be that "life" amuses them. But Librans are the "Cardinal" (primary - MOST "air" like) air sign, and fall SOMEWHERE in the middle. Their ideas/views/commitments can change, more easily than an Aquarian's, but are not so superficial as a Geminis. So they can "engage" ardently, but "disengage" in the blink of an eye. The smallest feather might tip their "scales", here, while ALL of the Himalayas might not, there! Librans are ALWAYS, and CONSTANTLY, weighing/measuring/inspecting EVERY "thing".

Anyway, just MY "view" of air signs, generally, and Librans, specifically.


Hi Let.

Being a Libran myself theres alot of this i can relate to and certainly think of myself as being...esp the emotional thing and detachment thing for certain.

Wudnt consider myself intelligent though....but curious and changeable..yes
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