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Apr 8, 2018 7:43 AM CST Alpha Male / Female
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
bigjb62: Two alphas in a relationship would be difficult, there would be a power struggle unless one of them assumed the beta role. It's would also be a problem in a beta/beta relationship, one would have to assume an alpha role for their best chance of success.
I don't believe there can be a truly successful 50/50 relationship where both parties try to run the relationship equally. One of them must take an alpha role or there will be a lot of disagreements that would most likely lead to the failure of the relationship.
cheers In my patriarchal cultural background, most man are Alpha in a relationship, regardless if their right or wrong, so women developed tactful diplomatic skills to outsmart them in influence of Alpha decidion making, and continue supporting man to believe they are the Alpha and Omega. rolling on the floor laughing
Agree with you. wine
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Apr 8, 2018 7:50 AM CST Alpha Male / Female
Snookums33
Snookums33Snookums33Joburg, Gauteng South Africa601 Threads 2 Polls 5,760 Posts
rainbowdream2017: In my patriarchal cultural background, most man are Alpha in a relationship, regardless if their right or wrong, so women developed tactful diplomatic skills to outsmart them in influence of Alpha decidion making, and continue supporting man to believe they are the Alpha and Omega.
Agree with you.


I have always been the Alpha in all my relationships.
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Apr 8, 2018 7:58 AM CST Alpha Male / Female
Snookums33
Snookums33Snookums33Joburg, Gauteng South Africa601 Threads 2 Polls 5,760 Posts
rainbowdream2017: It must be deeply traumatic what you experienced.
Surounding yourself with positive supportive people is blessing.
For sure that the same type of violent people are everywhere. Stay safe.


Well u r a definite positive influence.

U'r a very nice person.
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Apr 8, 2018 8:42 AM CST Alpha Male / Female
pat8lanips
pat8lanipspat8lanipsbabinda, Queensland Australia67 Threads 14 Polls 6,372 Posts
rainbowdream2017: In my mind I like man to be the Alpha if I trust that he knows how to lead the way, but practically I am probably the one or we take turns, depending of circumstances and matter.

It can be more complicated when people already have child from a previous marriage. Man can be very jealous of a women's 'child' as they want the first place too.


Interesting point about children from previous partner, but its the other way around in real life. The woman wants the new man to pull the children into line using the exact same tactics she does, with a different result... Be it endless and pointless negotiating, deprival of privileges, yelling etc etc

They also want you to be exactly what the natural father is not, which itself causes conflict because often the new male has a similar perspective to the old male.

And children dont actually want their mother to be with a new partner, or share her attention.
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Apr 8, 2018 9:12 AM CST Alpha Male / Female
Snookums33
Snookums33Snookums33Joburg, Gauteng South Africa601 Threads 2 Polls 5,760 Posts
pat8lanips: Interesting point about children from previous partner, but its the other way around in real life. The woman wants the new man to pull the children into line using the exact same tactics she does, with a different result... Be it endless and pointless negotiating, deprival of privileges, yelling etc etc

They also want you to be exactly what the natural father is not, which itself causes conflict because often the new male has a similar perspective to the old male.

And children dont actually want their mother to be with a new partner, or share her attention.


Pat were u rearing someone else's kids, and was not happy with the situation, so u divorced all of them ?
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Apr 8, 2018 9:18 AM CST Alpha Male / Female
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
pat8lanips: Interesting point about children from previous partner, but its the other way around in real life. The woman wants the new man to pull the children into line using the exact same tactics she does, with a different result... Be it endless and pointless negotiating, deprival of privileges, yelling etc etc

They also want you to be exactly what the natural father is not, which itself causes conflict because often the new male has a similar perspective to the old male.

And children dont actually want their mother to be with a new partner, or share her attention.
My daughter is now 23, going to university so all that issues of teenager's transformation is thankfuly behind me....but living in mummy bank - pocket is the old story, and I tend to believe that eventually any man would not be happy about that and would want to change things to also share my pocket...and I can't afford to share with two and don't want argument about it. rolling on the floor laughing
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Apr 8, 2018 9:32 AM CST Alpha Male / Female
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
pat8lanips: Interesting point about children from previous partner, but its the other way around in real life. The woman wants the new man to pull the children into line using the exact same tactics she does, with a different result... Be it endless and pointless negotiating, deprival of privileges, yelling etc etc

They also want you to be exactly what the natural father is not, which itself causes conflict because often the new male has a similar perspective to the old male.

And children dont actually want their mother to be with a new partner, or share her attention.
You're right, most young children naturally wants their own father and not another man, and who can blame them ?
However, if two people agree how to involve young children in a various fun activities and to share responsibilities in a household as family unity, that should not be the problem ! ! !
wine
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Apr 8, 2018 9:37 AM CST Alpha Male / Female
Snookums33
Snookums33Snookums33Joburg, Gauteng South Africa601 Threads 2 Polls 5,760 Posts
rainbowdream2017: You're right, most young children naturally wants their own father and not another man, and who can blame them ?
However, if two people agree how to involve young children in a various fun activities and to share responsibilities in a household as family unity, that should not be the problem ! ! !


How many small children have u got Pat ?

Don't forget the rest of the family !

Where there's money there r held out hands.
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Apr 8, 2018 10:02 AM CST Alpha Male / Female
Snookums33
Snookums33Snookums33Joburg, Gauteng South Africa601 Threads 2 Polls 5,760 Posts
pat8lanips: No, I have had a few girlfriends with children is all. The children are generally no problem, of course they do what kids do- test the boundaries. Of course, if I'm no longer the boyfriend for whatever reason, there is no reason for me to be in their kids lives any more. I've never been married, and so never been divorced either.


Well I agree with u now but I had to be married to have my kids. Old fashioned. Now living together is the best way. Obviously a contract must be in place first. Everyone has their own stuff.
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Apr 8, 2018 10:04 AM CST Alpha Male / Female
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
pat8lanips: No, I have had a few girlfriends with children is all. The children are generally no problem, of course they do what kids do- test the boundaries. Of course, if I'm no longer the boyfriend for whatever reason, there is no reason for me to be in their kids lives any more. I've never been married, and so never been divorced either.


It's not an easy position to be in.

....as well as blended families.

I had a 3 year live-in relationship a couple of years after the children's Dad and I split.

The kids were still littlies, but, man....did they test my new partner.

He was a patient, kind and loving man though.....and eventually won them over.

I think the kids still had this notion I was going to reconcile with their Dad.

Unfortunately the new partner and I separated for various other reasons, and not due to the kids, thankfully.

We stayed platonic friends for a year after we separated and he turned up to the kids birthday parties, soccer and netball games.....but agreed it best to finally let go.
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Apr 8, 2018 10:18 AM CST Alpha Male / Female
rainbowdream2017
rainbowdream2017rainbowdream2017Melbourne, Victoria Australia13 Threads 1 Polls 2,486 Posts
LeeCharming: I like your braveness in talking about the issues and telling the truth about the Globalists and Islamic agenda
Thank you.

I think it's our moral duty to be persistent in demanding on the right of a free man to have a free speach, and those who chose the path of speaking their mind outside the box, they must be prepared to be offten beaten and keep going...cheers peace
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Apr 8, 2018 11:16 AM CST Alpha Male / Female
bigjb62
bigjb62bigjb62Society Hill, South Carolina USA1 Threads 935 Posts
BerrySmoothie: It's not an easy position to be in.

....as well as blended families.

I had a 3 year live-in relationship a couple of years after the children's Dad and I split.

The kids were still littlies, but, man....did they test my new partner.

He was a patient, kind and loving man though.....and eventually won them over.

I think the kids still had this notion I was going to reconcile with their Dad.

Unfortunately the new partner and I separated for various other reasons, and not due to the kids, thankfully.

We stayed platonic friends for a year after we separated and he turned up to the kids birthday parties, soccer and netball games.....but agreed it best to finally let go.


This going to upset some people. But I believe that once you have children you are committed to doing everything in their best interest. In most cases getting divorced is rarely in their best interest. But once that's done, the next best thing is not to bring another individual into their lives, but to concentrate on their needs which includes making sure they have quality time with their father or mother. If you absolutely have to have another relationship then it must kept separate from them and should never take away time that's normally spent with them.
Again when you had children you made a commitment to do whats best for your them, even if it means sacrificing some of your happiness.
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Apr 8, 2018 11:20 AM CST Alpha Male / Female
Harbal
HarbalHarbalSouth Yorkshire, England UK49 Threads 3 Polls 2,248 Posts
bigjb62: This going to upset some people.

Yes, I've read it and it's left me absolutely gutted, I don't know if I'll ever get over it.
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Apr 8, 2018 3:53 PM CST Alpha Male / Female
deviant_slice
deviant_slicedeviant_sliceunknown, Tyne and Wear, England UK26 Threads 1 Polls 2,252 Posts
bigjb62: This going to upset some people. But I believe that once you have children you are committed to doing everything in their best interest. In most cases getting divorced is rarely in their best interest. But once that's done, the next best thing is not to bring another individual into their lives, but to concentrate on their needs which includes making sure they have quality time with their father or mother. If you absolutely have to have another relationship then it must kept separate from them and should never take away time that's normally spent with them.
Again when you had children you made a commitment to do whats best for your them, even if it means sacrificing some of your happiness.


Where does the maniacal ex, who goes to extreme lenghths to prevent you from seeing your kid fit into this dream?
I have a son who turned 36 yesterday. I last saw him when he was 5. Saw her last year. She looked really ill. Hopefully she's dead now.
On a positive note. The Stella here is really nice.
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Apr 8, 2018 4:11 PM CST Alpha Male / Female
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
bigjb62: This going to upset some people. But I believe that once you have children you are committed to doing everything in their best interest. In most cases getting divorced is rarely in their best interest. But once that's done, the next best thing is not to bring another individual into their lives, but to concentrate on their needs which includes making sure they have quality time with their father or mother. If you absolutely have to have another relationship then it must kept separate from them and should never take away time that's normally spent with them.
Again when you had children you made a commitment to do whats best for your them, even if it means sacrificing some of your happiness.



In my case both children were spending quality time with their Mum and Dad. It was an agreed 50/50 shared care access, which worked pretty well for some time.

....and as far as your concern over my commitment(a little defensive here, but can you blame me) to my kids is concerned, if I bent over any further for them, I'd break. Literally.

Cheers,

Have a beaut day.

teddybear
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Apr 8, 2018 4:12 PM CST Alpha Male / Female
BerrySmoothie
BerrySmoothieBerrySmoothieMy Retreat, Auckland New Zealand3 Threads 4,733 Posts
deviant_slice: Where does the maniacal ex, who goes to extreme lenghths to prevent you from seeing your kid fit into this dream?
I have a son who turned 36 yesterday. I last saw him when he was 5. Saw her last year. She looked really ill. Hopefully she's dead now.
On a positive note. The Stella here is really nice.


Deviant.... hug
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Apr 8, 2018 4:23 PM CST Alpha Male / Female
deviant_slice
deviant_slicedeviant_sliceunknown, Tyne and Wear, England UK26 Threads 1 Polls 2,252 Posts
BerrySmoothie: Deviant....


Thanks Berry. Wasn't going for the sympathy vote, just let my guard down sometimes.
Big shout out for single parents everywhere. Whatever the circumstances, it's a hard road.
I'm in charhge of two now. You could train rocks quicker.
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Apr 8, 2018 4:38 PM CST Alpha Male / Female
Deedee123x
Deedee123xDeedee123xLimerick, Ireland69 Threads 4,795 Posts
deviant_slice: Where does the maniacal ex, who goes to extreme lenghths to prevent you from seeing your kid fit into this dream?
I have a son who turned 36 yesterday. I last saw him when he was 5. Saw her last year. She looked really ill. Hopefully she's dead now.
On a positive note. The Stella here is really nice.


Heres another hug .....
Take care of you x
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Apr 8, 2018 5:03 PM CST Alpha Male / Female
deviant_slice
deviant_slicedeviant_sliceunknown, Tyne and Wear, England UK26 Threads 1 Polls 2,252 Posts
And yer can bring Berrysmoothie as well.
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Apr 8, 2018 5:07 PM CST Alpha Male / Female
deviant_slice
deviant_slicedeviant_sliceunknown, Tyne and Wear, England UK26 Threads 1 Polls 2,252 Posts
Har de har har. I show me sensitive side and I get a mesahge asking me if I ferl naughty. Time to go methinks.
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