Can You Believe This!! (223)
LimunAbidos, Central Serbia Serbia6 Threads 1 Polls 1,923 PostsM4_Mischief: which is where it should stay...acting on it is entirely up to men and fully within their control and their responsibility......
Fist, not only Men react, Women do it too , second are you saying that we have no responsibility for our actions?------ This thread is Archived ------
Limun: Fist, not only Men react, Women do it too , second are you saying that we have no responsibility for our actions?
women do it too sure....but I wouldn't say they harass anyone....I think every person knows the difference between attention and harassment...so in every scenario we are all responsible for our actions and our actions come from us not the other person......
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M4_Mischief: I don't know...did you repeatedly cause them anguish etc?....not to mention its within your control to respond or not....I would go with made fun of and no doubt they weren't even real accounts so you were just making fun of a picture.....
Me? We all did it. Men and Women but thats not the point Its about Human nature -we see something, we react ...
We ridiculed them ,
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M4_Mischief: women do it too sure....but I wouldn't say they harass anyone....I think every person knows the difference between attention and harassment...so in every scenario we are all responsible for our actions and our actions come from us not the other person......
Didnt you just post about the differ4ence between Harassment and assault? Where Harassment is a verbal delict and we all know that women have a richer vocabulary when it comes to ``showing attention``------ This thread is Archived ------
Limun: Me? We all did it. Men and Women but thats not the point
Its about Human nature -we see something, we react ...
We ridiculed them ,
human nature also needs boundaries or there would be no need for laws....most people are gonna know those lines and some people are gonna know them and cross them anyway and others are just gonna plain take what isn't theirs.....Its about Human nature -we see something, we react ...
We ridiculed them ,
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That's true...but also if a person has it in them to harass someone...it isn't gonna matter what they are wearing or not...there is absolutely no correlation at all to clothing and harassment...it solely has to do with the person harassing....no matter common sense or human nature....one person does not have the right to harass another regardless of anything else....if someone puts a boundary in place...stop...its as simple as that.....
me=mine...if it comes from me its my responsibility
you=yours...if it comes from your its your responsibility
its not anymore complicated than that.....
me=mine...if it comes from me its my responsibility
you=yours...if it comes from your its your responsibility
its not anymore complicated than that.....
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I didn't say anything about cat-calling Krema and if I meant that, I would have used the phrase 'verbal assault'.
If you think wearing jeans and jumper somehow will protect you from attack, that you will only ever be admired from afar, then you are being very naiive.
With respect to suggesting that women receive the attention they are aiming for by the way they dress, you are playing a dangerous game. You are assuming that a perpetrator will interpret your dress the way you do. I would suggest a perpetrator is likely to interpret your appearance to suit his own agenda, not yours. They're unlikely to be thoughtful and empathetic, wouldn't you say?
The way to reduce harassment, bullying and assault of this nature is to send the message that it is not acceptable, no matter how women dress.
If you think wearing jeans and jumper somehow will protect you from attack, that you will only ever be admired from afar, then you are being very naiive.
With respect to suggesting that women receive the attention they are aiming for by the way they dress, you are playing a dangerous game. You are assuming that a perpetrator will interpret your dress the way you do. I would suggest a perpetrator is likely to interpret your appearance to suit his own agenda, not yours. They're unlikely to be thoughtful and empathetic, wouldn't you say?
The way to reduce harassment, bullying and assault of this nature is to send the message that it is not acceptable, no matter how women dress.
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Yes, limun, I have made fun of certain profile pics, particularly the time I thought a poor chap had a nasty case of tennis elbow before I realised it was, in fact, a picture of his knob.
If that's harassment, I can only apologise.
If that's harassment, I can only apologise.
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jac_the_gripper: Yes, limun, I have made fun of certain profile pics, particularly the time I thought a poor chap had a nasty case of tennis elbow before I realised it was, in fact, a picture of his knob.
If that's harassment, I can only apologise.
You had an opinion nothing moreIf that's harassment, I can only apologise.
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Yep....that's a presumption and interpretation by the person looking....so its not the way a person is dressed that is the problem but the problem is with the interpreter which has nothing to do with the woman and the way she is dressed at all.....
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M4_Mischief: Yep....that's a presumption and interpretation by the person looking....so its not the way a person is dressed that is the problem but the problem is with the interpreter which has nothing to do with the woman and the way she is dressed at all.....
BINGO 
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Limun: You have the right to dress, anyway you want and live in denial that the way we choose to show up affects people around us ... and its not always in a positive way
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jac_the_gripper: Yes, limun, I have made fun of certain profile pics, particularly the time I thought a poor chap had a nasty case of tennis elbow before I realised it was, in fact, a picture of his knob.
If that's harassment, I can only apologise.
Why are you apologizing ... there are sites where people can post nudity, this is not one of those AKA One should chose where and how he or she shows up If that's harassment, I can only apologise.
If I show up on a nudist beach, wearing a fur coat ...people are gonna make fun of me
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If I was walking down the street and I met a guy approaching,
in a state of arousal, in Lycra bottoms, with all his bits on display,
do I think he has a right to wear what he likes??
Hell No!!
in a state of arousal, in Lycra bottoms, with all his bits on display,
do I think he has a right to wear what he likes??
Hell No!!
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Limun: Yeah we still wear bones in our noses and send out smoke signals
speaking of signals - the way we dress sends out signals - does that ring any bell?
To be honest it doesn't really interest me.speaking of signals - the way we dress sends out signals - does that ring any bell?
The thing with these topics is some don't allow any room for a decent conversation and with that said I'm off to ring my bell for food glorious food.
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MsContessa: If I was walking down the street and I met a guy approaching,
in a state of arousal, in Lycra bottoms, with all his bits on display,
do I think he has a right to wear what he likes??
Hell No!!
He probably expects those who don't like it to remove themselves from the street or look the other way...in a state of arousal, in Lycra bottoms, with all his bits on display,
do I think he has a right to wear what he likes??
Hell No!!
It's me against the rest isn't it...
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annaroach: I saw this a while ago here.
"More often than not,women get " harassed" because they look the part,
wearing clothes that don't scream "Harass me", would be a start
OMG!!!
Maybe it's time to bring it back to this..."More often than not,women get " harassed" because they look the part,
wearing clothes that don't scream "Harass me", would be a start
OMG!!!
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serene56: Maybe it's time to bring it back to this...
I think the discussion wasgoing quite well without nanny Serene 
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aries1234: I think the discussion wasgoing quite well without nanny Serene
Shut up Grandpa.My point is, in seeing two young women in the past week, without the word of a lie, walk through a local shopping centre clutching their crotches to pull their tiny shorts out of their .....
If they don't think passing men would be ogling that, they need an education.
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That has been my point from the beginning.
I often see young ones out on a Saturday night, and I do an internal eye roll
at what they are wearing.
However, if someone decided they could assault them in any way because of what they were wearing, I would split their head in two without a thought.
Nobody can stop thoughts, but they can stop actions.
I often see young ones out on a Saturday night, and I do an internal eye roll
at what they are wearing.However, if someone decided they could assault them in any way because of what they were wearing, I would split their head in two without a thought.
Nobody can stop thoughts, but they can stop actions.
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