Palm Oil And Its Connection With The Environmental Destruction (67)
daniela777: Although it is not bad for the health, thousands of acres of rainforest (orangutans´ habitat) are destroyed yearly for the palm tree plantation.
Are you yourself aware of it?
Do you seek out palm oil free products?
Or... you don´t care?
I never use itAre you yourself aware of it?
Do you seek out palm oil free products?
Or... you don´t care?
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How do you know Tom? Do you actually scrutinize all the labels on the products you buy? 
I myself try to, whenever I can. Although, here in Spain, they have started to put "palm oil free" on certain products.
I myself try to, whenever I can. Although, here in Spain, they have started to put "palm oil free" on certain products.
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daniela777: Although it is not bad for the health, thousands of acres of rainforest (orangutans´ habitat) are destroyed yearly for the palm tree plantation.
Are you yourself aware of it?
Do you seek out palm oil free products?
Or... you don´t care?
I do a fair bit of shopping in a food retailer here in Ireland called 'iceland', they are a frozen food outlet, they have gone down the route of selling all products free from palm oil, also, they had a terrific Christmas TV advert that was pulled by the television companies for being as they put it, against advertising standards....shameful... Are you yourself aware of it?
Do you seek out palm oil free products?
Or... you don´t care?
To answer the rest of your question, I do seek out palm oil free products, and I prefer to buy loose products (fruit/meat/fish) and avoid plastic and non recyclable materials...
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Arthur_Sixpence: I do a fair bit of shopping in a food retailer here in Ireland called 'iceland', they are a frozen food outlet, they have gone down the route of selling all products free from palm oil, also, they had a terrific Christmas TV advert that was pulled by the television companies for being as they put it, against advertising standards....shameful...
To answer the rest of your question, I do seek out palm oil free products, and I prefer to buy loose products (fruit/meat/fish) and avoid plastic and non recyclable materials...
Wow! They sell all products free from palm oil! To answer the rest of your question, I do seek out palm oil free products, and I prefer to buy loose products (fruit/meat/fish) and avoid plastic and non recyclable materials...
You mean only in Iceland? Or does that apply to other retailers in Ireland?
I am glad to see that some people are aware of the dangers and are looking after the environment.
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daniela777: How do you know Tom? Do you actually scrutinize all the labels on the products you buy?
I myself try to, whenever I can. Although, here in Spain, they have started to put "palm oil free" on certain products.
I go to Iceland UK thir products are palm oil freeI myself try to, whenever I can. Although, here in Spain, they have started to put "palm oil free" on certain products.
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aries1234: I go to Iceland UK thir products are palm oil free
Good to know! Unfortunately, we haven´t got an Iceland here - at least not locally, that I know of???
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daniela777: Good to know!
Unfortunately, we haven´t got an Iceland here - at least not locally, that I know of???
PRIMARK use paper carrier bags hereUnfortunately, we haven´t got an Iceland here - at least not locally, that I know of???
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daniela777: Although it is not bad for the health, thousands of acres of rainforest (orangutans´ habitat) are destroyed yearly for the palm tree plantation.
Are you yourself aware of it?
Do you seek out palm oil free products?
Or... you don´t care?
I don't use it.Are you yourself aware of it?
Do you seek out palm oil free products?
Or... you don´t care?
I check the ingredients before buying.
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mollybaby: I don't use it.
I check the ingredients before buying.
Good for you Molly! I check the ingredients before buying.
Which means one has always got to carry some reading glasses to check out the small prints, which I do, of course!
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It's the same with soya products.
It's difficult, the letters on products are usually so small, that they're hard to read.
I've been vegetarian for 10 years, in my country it was a disaster, in the UK they have a green circle and a white V in it, with the announcement that it's vegetarian.
But most vegetarian products you can use instead of meat are made from soya.
I think that products should have good signs, glutenfree, soyaoil and palmoil free etc.
Now there are also people allergic for nuts, so often I can read that stuff can contain nuts.
Even if I buy some nuts, the package says: this product may contain traces of nuts.
It's not the customers that should be aware, but the supermarkets. They have to say: No plastics, no things that are bad for the environment, just don't sell it, then the factories won't produce it.
So if there are people owning a supermarket here, take your responsibillity.
It's so stupid I can't even buy a cucumber not wrapped in plastic in the supermarket...
It's difficult, the letters on products are usually so small, that they're hard to read.
I've been vegetarian for 10 years, in my country it was a disaster, in the UK they have a green circle and a white V in it, with the announcement that it's vegetarian.
But most vegetarian products you can use instead of meat are made from soya.
I think that products should have good signs, glutenfree, soyaoil and palmoil free etc.
Now there are also people allergic for nuts, so often I can read that stuff can contain nuts.
Even if I buy some nuts, the package says: this product may contain traces of nuts.
It's not the customers that should be aware, but the supermarkets. They have to say: No plastics, no things that are bad for the environment, just don't sell it, then the factories won't produce it.
So if there are people owning a supermarket here, take your responsibillity.
It's so stupid I can't even buy a cucumber not wrapped in plastic in the supermarket...
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PeKaatje: It's the same with soya products.
It's difficult, the letters on products are usually so small, that they're hard to read.
I've been vegetarian for 10 years, in my country it was a disaster, in the UK they have a green circle and a white V in it, with the announcement that it's vegetarian.
But most vegetarian products you can use instead of meat are made from soya.
I think that products should have good signs, glutenfree, soyaoil and palmoil free etc.
Now there are also people allergic for nuts, so often I can read that stuff can contain nuts.
Even if I buy some nuts, the package says: this product may contain traces of nuts.
It's not the customers that should be aware, but the supermarkets. They have to say: No plastics, no things that are bad for the environment, just don't sell it, then the factories won't produce it.
So if there are people owning a supermarket here, take your responsibillity.
It's so stupid I can't even buy a cucumber not wrapped in plastic in the supermarket...
I agree with all what you´re saying here! It's difficult, the letters on products are usually so small, that they're hard to read.
I've been vegetarian for 10 years, in my country it was a disaster, in the UK they have a green circle and a white V in it, with the announcement that it's vegetarian.
But most vegetarian products you can use instead of meat are made from soya.
I think that products should have good signs, glutenfree, soyaoil and palmoil free etc.
Now there are also people allergic for nuts, so often I can read that stuff can contain nuts.
Even if I buy some nuts, the package says: this product may contain traces of nuts.
It's not the customers that should be aware, but the supermarkets. They have to say: No plastics, no things that are bad for the environment, just don't sell it, then the factories won't produce it.
So if there are people owning a supermarket here, take your responsibillity.
It's so stupid I can't even buy a cucumber not wrapped in plastic in the supermarket...
Yeah.... reading the small prints...even with glasses..
"Gluten free" and "lactose free" is now written in big letters at the front. But the rest you have to find out by reading the list of ingredients.
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daniela777: Although it is not bad for the health, thousands of acres of rainforest (orangutans´ habitat) are destroyed yearly for the palm tree plantation.
Are you yourself aware of it?
Do you seek out palm oil free products?
Or... you don´t care?
I've been aware of the problem for years in fact while I don't make a habit of reading labels I have written to McKee Foods, makers of Little Debbie cake products. I especially implored them to find a substitute oil for their Streusel cakes which are a major favorite of mine. They have unfortunately pulled the product from production so in a way I shot myself in the foot.Are you yourself aware of it?
Do you seek out palm oil free products?
Or... you don´t care?
In my opinion Palm oil is not the problem, the problem is GREED! The same can be said for Beef, you can't blame Beef for the ongoing destruction of the Brazilian rain forest. There again it's the pursuit of the Almighty Dollar which drives the destruction of these forests. I applaud you Daniela for making the effort to alert people around the globe to this problem.
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ooby_dooby: I've been aware of the problem for years in fact while I don't make a habit of reading labels I have written to McKee Foods, makers of Little Debbie cake products. I especially implored them to find a substitute oil for their Streusel cakes which are a major favorite of mine. They have unfortunately pulled the product from production so in a way I shot myself in the foot.
In my opinion Palm oil is not the problem, the problem is GREED! The same can be said for Beef, you can't blame Beef for the ongoing destruction of the Brazilian rain forest. There again it's the pursuit of the Almighty Dollar which drives the destruction of these forests. I applaud you Daniela for making the effort to alert people around the globe to this problem.
One of the biggest destroyers of the rainforrest are Burger King and McDonalds, Time to boycot them.In my opinion Palm oil is not the problem, the problem is GREED! The same can be said for Beef, you can't blame Beef for the ongoing destruction of the Brazilian rain forest. There again it's the pursuit of the Almighty Dollar which drives the destruction of these forests. I applaud you Daniela for making the effort to alert people around the globe to this problem.
I think the food of McD is tasteless and filthy, in my area there's no Burgerking.
Of course their food is also unhealthy. And they are like everywhere in the world.
If everyone starts boycotting them there's hope.
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ooby_dooby: I've been aware of the problem for years in fact while I don't make a habit of reading labels I have written to McKee Foods, makers of Little Debbie cake products. I especially implored them to find a substitute oil for their Streusel cakes which are a major favorite of mine. They have unfortunately pulled the product from production so in a way I shot myself in the foot.
In my opinion Palm oil is not the problem, the problem is GREED! The same can be said for Beef, you can't blame Beef for the ongoing destruction of the Brazilian rain forest. There again it's the pursuit of the Almighty Dollar which drives the destruction of these forests. I applaud you Daniela for making the effort to alert people around the globe to this problem.
It´s a really sad story... whatever we do, we never seem to be able to win. In my opinion Palm oil is not the problem, the problem is GREED! The same can be said for Beef, you can't blame Beef for the ongoing destruction of the Brazilian rain forest. There again it's the pursuit of the Almighty Dollar which drives the destruction of these forests. I applaud you Daniela for making the effort to alert people around the globe to this problem.
I realise that the problem is GREED! Same as killing mother orangutans so they can sell the babies as pets (an average of 10 for one baby!).
Elephant tasks... how many elephants have to be killed in order to satisfy some rich man having ivory for decoration in their living room?
I am sure that many people are aware Ooby, but... they prefer to continue wearing blinkers as it is not directly affecting them.
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PeKaatje: One of the biggest destroyers of the rainforrest are Burger King and McDonalds, Time to boycot them.
I think the food of McD is tasteless and filthy, in my area there's no Burgerking.
Of course their food is also unhealthy. And they are like everywhere in the world.
If everyone starts boycotting them there's hope.
Good idea Pek! I think the food of McD is tasteless and filthy, in my area there's no Burgerking.
Of course their food is also unhealthy. And they are like everywhere in the world.
If everyone starts boycotting them there's hope.
And who´s going to start? 
I, for a start, do not visit such places!
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I cook myself from scratch and don't use palm oil in my cooking. I very seldom buy sweets, like cakes and cookies and the like.
I do read labels on cosmetic and hygienic products, but most for sulphates and parabens sake; from now on will pay attention to palm oil as well.
Thanks for spreading awareness!
I do read labels on cosmetic and hygienic products, but most for sulphates and parabens sake; from now on will pay attention to palm oil as well.
Thanks for spreading awareness!
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daniela777: Good to know!
Unfortunately, we haven´t got an Iceland here - at least not locally, that I know of???
There are 4 Iceland stores in Spain.Unfortunately, we haven´t got an Iceland here - at least not locally, that I know of???
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Tulefell: I cook myself from scratch and don't use palm oil in my cooking. I very seldom buy sweets, like cakes and cookies and the like.
I do read labels on cosmetic and hygienic products, but most for sulphates and parabens sake; from now on will pay attention to palm oil as well.
Thanks for spreading awareness!
Parabens have been banned in Europe so there's no need to check for those anymore.I do read labels on cosmetic and hygienic products, but most for sulphates and parabens sake; from now on will pay attention to palm oil as well.
Thanks for spreading awareness!
Espartame is the one you need to worry about as it is disguised under a ref no. E..
Palm oil is not banned as it is not harmful for health.
It's up to the people if they care for the rain forests or not...and the survival of orangutans ?
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aries1234: There are 4 Iceland stores in Spain.
And whereabouts may I ask?Probably too far for me?
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Are you yourself aware of it?
Do you seek out palm oil free products?
Or... you don´t care?