OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round? (137)

Mar 15, 2019 2:40 PM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
Track16online today!
Track16online today!Track16Little Hearts Ease, Newfoundland Canada723 Threads 9,074 Posts
daniela777: I know you do because I've read some of your comments.
I do like this side of you though!

I realise we also need some fun blogs...instead of all the political ones.
Politics is important but it can't be all politics, it takes the fun out of the air. Need threads of all different kinds :)
Mar 15, 2019 2:46 PM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
daniela777: I tell you what...
Why don't you choose the topic yourself?
I wouldn't want to cause you unnecessary stress
laugh I would think most stress is necessary in it's aftermath.

OK! The topic is "Illusory membranes. Walls, walls, walls."

But I'm thread shy. sigh

I'm sure Pedro could somehow turn it into a biblical fornication thread.grin
Mar 15, 2019 2:48 PM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
BB_snickers: I would think most stress is necessary in it's aftermath.

OK! The topic is "Illusory membranes. Walls, walls, walls."

But I'm thread shy.

I'm sure Pedro could somehow turn it into a biblical fornication thread.
laugh rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 15, 2019 2:56 PM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
Well, that sure looks like the precursor to optimism daniela.... My work here is done. head banger
Mar 15, 2019 3:08 PM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
BB_snickers: Well, that sure looks like the precursor to optimism daniela.... My work here is done.
Ok..thanks!
Feel free to come back whenever you like.teddybear
Mar 15, 2019 3:26 PM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
jono7online today!
jono7online today!jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 9,633 Posts
pKrema: Optimism is tightly attached to realism for me...
Hoping and dreaming are wishful thinking...
When you throw a dose of dare and determination, hard work and will, then you can have a real possibility to feel optimistic...
i like your thinking.
wine


"Hope is not a strategy. Luck is not a factor, Fear is not an option."
-James Cameron-
Mar 15, 2019 8:08 PM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
MiguelUknow
MiguelUknowMiguelUknowSantiago de Queretaro, Queretaro Mexico19 Threads 919 Posts
I'm a pessimist which means I naturally think being an optimist is better. On the positive side it keeps me grounded and living within my means. I was going to write a long response explaining my feeling on both, but I decided people wouldn't be interested, and I'd just be wasting my time. So I didn't. wink
Mar 15, 2019 11:16 PM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
If you know society is not evolving in a productive way and heading in the wrong direction, then some might say you were being Pessimistic for talking about it, but reality, knowledge, clear vision to see the agenda is important to some and optimism will have to wait it's turn
Mar 15, 2019 11:39 PM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
im neither....I just am whatever that is in the moment.....wave
Mar 16, 2019 1:58 AM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
MiguelUknow: I'm a pessimist which means I naturally think being an optimist is better. On the positive side it keeps me grounded and living within my means. I was going to write a long response explaining my feeling on both, but I decided people wouldn't be interested, and I'd just be wasting my time. So I didn't.
Hola Miguel wave

As long as you're happy with whatever you are and...as you say.. It keeps you grounded...
Then there's nothing wrong with it is there?
It could be that you are more realistic and down to earth ?

But...can you still achieve your goals?

Now...It would be interesting to hear your views on both?

Why do you think that people wouldn't be interested?
That's a NEGATIVE feeling meaning you are already under valuing yourself ?scold

There are always some people interested..somewhere...but how do you know unless you try ?
Nothing is NEVER a waste of time! scold
We all need to learn in order to grow.

Hasta la proxima vez..teddybear
Mar 16, 2019 2:03 AM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
LeeCharming: If you know society is not evolving in a productive way and heading in the wrong direction, then some might say you were being Pessimistic for talking about it, but reality, knowledge, clear vision to see the agenda is important to some and optimism will have to wait it's turn
Lee..in this case it's AWARENESS ..and it's positive !
If we aware of something bad happening or about to happen maybe we can help changing things in some way?dunno
Mar 16, 2019 2:05 AM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
M4_Mischief: im neither....I just am whatever that is in the moment.....
Good Lady M...wave

That's also how I like to be! cool
Mar 16, 2019 11:23 AM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
MiguelUknow
MiguelUknowMiguelUknowSantiago de Queretaro, Queretaro Mexico19 Threads 919 Posts
daniela777: Hola Miguel

As long as you're happy with whatever you are and...as you say.. It keeps you grounded...
Then there's nothing wrong with it is there?
It could be that you are more realistic and down to earth ?

But...can you still achieve your goals?

Now...It would be interesting to hear your views on both?

Why do you think that people wouldn't be interested?
That's a NEGATIVE feeling meaning you are already under valuing yourself ?

There are always some people interested..somewhere...but how do you know unless you try ?
Nothing is NEVER a waste of time!
We all need to learn in order to grow.

Hasta la proxima vez..
Hola Dani I haven't exactly lived a goal oriented life. I've just reacted to the curve balls life has thrown at me, and yet I've somehow managed to achieve a modicum of success.

I was just trying to sound like a pessimist with the people not being interested and waste of time comment. The winking eye was supposed to be the tip off.

I think the genes we are born with helps to determine at least some of the way our attitudes toward life develop. Of course teaching and life experiences and role models also contribute. But if were a matter of free choice I don't believe many people would chose to be pessimistic. I guess people do tend to moderate from either extreme to the middle with age and the benefits of life's lessons
Hasta pronto
Mar 16, 2019 11:36 AM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
daniela777: Which is better, in your opinion?
Is your glass half full or half empty?

Looking at both ends of the scale, we could look at it as positive, and negative but... is it really?

Both have advantages and disadvantages and most people are not at either extreme, but fall somewhere between.

Optimists might be good starters and will persevere regardless of obstacles, but may not stop when they should have.

Pessimists may not start at all, overcome by difficulties before they start. However, once they get started and achieved success, this fuels their confidence to carry on.

It is most widely thought that optimists are non-realists, which they can be if their perception of reality is distorted but, If you are an optimist based on realism, you are more likely to succeed.

As for Pessimists, they are more accurate about reality.

Research has shown that optimism is correlated with many positive life outcomes, including increased life expectancy, general health, better mental health, increased success in sports and work etc. and better-coping strategies when faced with adversity.

Life coaching behavioral techniques may not necessarily involve teaching people “optimism”, but instead, just reducing pessimism.

Discuss at your heart´s content.
As an ISTF (or so they tell me) any level of optimism or pessimism gets filtered through my observatory judge and is then placed properly in it's place as necessary or unnecessary in the moment. Where energetic pessimism and energetic optimism pass through us regulairy, I tend find them interesting but of little consequence. I rarely if ever find any need to remain and or regain those energies because before you know it, here comes another energy.
Mar 16, 2019 11:41 AM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
MiguelUknow: Hola Dani ...

I think the genes we are born with helps to determine at least some of the way our attitudes toward life develop. Of course teaching and life experiences and role models also contribute. But if were a matter of free choice I don't believe many people would chose to be pessimistic. I guess people do tend to moderate from either extreme to the middle with age and the benefits of life's lessons
Hasta pronto
Miguel...nice to see you back! wave

I don't really think that our genes have anything to do with it..but..
The MORPHIC FIELD we are brought up in.

As you say..."role models" play an important role in our life and offer great lessons.

For example: I didn't inherit my family's genes as far as health and attitude are concerned because I got out of the morphic field and moved away So I wasn't influenced by them.


Also..as you say..and you are right! ..we do not choose to be pessimist or optimist ...
But it all depends of the experiences we have encountered along the way...and...most importantly...what did we learn from them and how they changed our life.
Mar 16, 2019 11:49 AM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
BB_snickers: As an ISTF (or so they tell me) any level of optimism or pessimism gets filtered through my observatory judge and is then placed properly in it's place as necessary or unnecessary in the moment. Where energetic pessimism and energetic optimism pass through us regulairy, I tend find them interesting but of little consequence. I rarely if ever find any need to remain and or regain those energies because before you know it, here comes another energy.
What's an ISTF?confused
Mar 16, 2019 12:05 PM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
daniela777: What's an ISTF?
Personality types.



Have fun! wine
Mar 16, 2019 12:50 PM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
BB_snickers: Personality types.



Have fun!
I guessed it was but couldn't find that type?

I am INFJ cheers
Mar 16, 2019 1:02 PM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
daniela777: I guessed it was but couldn't find that type?

I am INFJ
Ok, you be the judge. laugh

It seems to fit you, though my minimal exposure to you on a forum is hardly the stuff of worthy analysis.

Very rare too. Funny though, I know of at least one other INFJ and she totally fits that designation. So technically in my circles you would be common wine


I wanted to be rare, special and weird but as it turns out I am just like 60% of the other weirdos mumbling There's plenty of room for me judging that. roll eyes
Mar 16, 2019 1:10 PM CST OPTIMISM Vs PESSIMISM - Or the other way round?
daniela777: I guessed it was but couldn't find that type?

I am INFJ
Sorry, ISTJ ... I'm always putting F's where J's belong.
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