since we are made up of a spirit a soul and consciousness, Dna, even if you do believe in heaven, which part of a person actually goes there ? Heaven would mean something different for everyone, so how can one call heaven if you are forced to go there ?
marlindap: since we are made up of a spirit a soul and consciousness, Dna, even if you do believe in heaven, which part of a person actually goes there ? Heaven would mean something different for everyone, so how can one call heaven if you are forced to go there ?
You may be right.. I'd hate to have to share my heaven, with some of the so called good Christians on this planet..
Jesus said:Nothing unclean goes in heaven! All who love dirty,who love do evil and who do unrighteous deeds and who,s deeds are more evil than good-they go in hell. Hell is not a place of rest and good,is a place of suffer terribly and fire,so those who love hell are misleaded from evil, and so when they go there then they are so sad that they didn,t obey truth, but then is too late, they have to suffer and burn in fire!So be wise and don,t let yourself go in hell. So there is no other good place to go, but is heaven, so who go in heaven are happy and love each other as themselves.So he who understand truth and obey goes in heaven! And he who do good and are forgiven bad deeds:goes in heaven. pray to be forgiven your bad deeds, and do no more bad.
Seeing how it was Christ Himself when asked what was Heaven like answered "In my Fathers house are many mansions" gives a clear indication that there are degrees of Heaven. Its just not black and white. A Christian will say he/she is saved... because of their belief in Christ and while I believe that is true, they will also be judged more so ,,,, BECAUSE OF THEIR BELIEF IN CHRIST. Do they worship Christ with their mouths or hearts? Never-the-less will they inherit the living room with the Father, Christ and the great prophets or perhaps a room that may be more comfortable for them down the hall; with the future opportunity to perfect one selves knowledge further in the spirit realm? I tend to favor the latter.
I liken the highest degree of Heaven to a societal party where everyone is dressed in tuxes and gowns... Then all of a sudden you show up wearing a T shirt, swim wear and flip flops. Immediately you realize you are out of place (out classed) and EXIT because of your SHAME(ful attire)... You realize you don't belong at that party, and find a room where others are wearing swimwear enjoying themselves.
Hell? The knowledge that you could've gotten in to that party... that there was even an invitation in your name...but you just didn't dress (live) accordingly.
marlindap: since we are made up of a spirit a soul and consciousness, Dna, even if you do believe in heaven, which part of a person actually goes there ? Heaven would mean something different for everyone, so how can one call heaven if you are forced to go there ?
No one is forced to go anywhere Marlin.
You can just return to your source self...it is YOUR choice.
Butcher559Whangarei, Northland New Zealand750 posts
Only the babies and childern that die before they become fully aware of the crap that their parents teach them go straight to heaven. Christians are just as corrupt as any other religion.
Actually no one goes nowhere when they die. Whoever tells you so don't follow like a sheep. In reality, no one has that answer, since no one passed that side and came back to our side except one person in Bible that Jesus returned his life back after being dead for three days I recall. Anyways, do not worry about going to Heaven or Hell, just worry about leading a nice life in reaching out and helping people around you, that can be a family member or anyone close to you, not necessarily a stranger. One thing is clear though, each of us arrived this world alone and we go the same way alone, wherever we might be headed after death let the unknown be in charge gor that. If your conscience is clear than you should be fine .
Trust me. Heaven is overcrowded with suicide bombers now. Hell is a lot better place to have fun. All the late CS forum posters are in hell. Hell is the right place to be now.
If all the people have to checked at the pearly gates when they die to see if they enter heaven or sent to hell there will most likely be at least 1000 years waiting before you get to the pearly gate as if it only takes 10 seconds to process each person another 30 people will have died in this time (if I have worked it out right) and even in 1500 a backlog would have started.
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