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Nules: So I am I taking from your quote that every person who dies by suicide, their parents have to take the blame???
Because my husband was 41 when he died by suicide and I never blamed his mother. I didn’t even know my husband was depressed!
I do suicide bereavement support and see the pain families are left after a death by suicide, any death is bad but death by suicide has a sting like no other death.
As I have said before “walk a mile in any one’s shoes and then criticize them!”
I have met parents who would have sold their soul to help save their children but couldn’t!
I feel you have never experienced loss to mental health issues or suicide and for that I think you are lucky, please be aware that’s a fine line between sanity and insanity.
Sorry I hope I haven’t offended anyone but I do speak from the heart.
Your post is not offensive at all Nules. Love and hugs Because my husband was 41 when he died by suicide and I never blamed his mother. I didn’t even know my husband was depressed!
I do suicide bereavement support and see the pain families are left after a death by suicide, any death is bad but death by suicide has a sting like no other death.
As I have said before “walk a mile in any one’s shoes and then criticize them!”
I have met parents who would have sold their soul to help save their children but couldn’t!
I feel you have never experienced loss to mental health issues or suicide and for that I think you are lucky, please be aware that’s a fine line between sanity and insanity.
Sorry I hope I haven’t offended anyone but I do speak from the heart.
You speak from the heart and deep awareness
Can't say the same about ycn's statements which show a distinct lack of awareness at least
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Nules: So I am I taking from your quote that every person who dies by suicide, their parents have to take the blame???
Because my husband was 41 when he died by suicide and I never blamed his mother. I didn’t even know my husband was depressed!
I do suicide bereavement support and see the pain families are left after a death by suicide, any death is bad but death by suicide has a sting like no other death.
As I have said before “walk a mile in any one’s shoes and then criticize them!”
I have met parents who would have sold their soul to help save their children but couldn’t!
I feel you have never experienced loss to mental health issues or suicide and for that I think you are lucky, please be aware that’s a fine line between sanity and insanity.
Sorry I hope I haven’t offended anyone but I do speak from the heart.
Well you’ve just emphasised my point . Because my husband was 41 when he died by suicide and I never blamed his mother. I didn’t even know my husband was depressed!
I do suicide bereavement support and see the pain families are left after a death by suicide, any death is bad but death by suicide has a sting like no other death.
As I have said before “walk a mile in any one’s shoes and then criticize them!”
I have met parents who would have sold their soul to help save their children but couldn’t!
I feel you have never experienced loss to mental health issues or suicide and for that I think you are lucky, please be aware that’s a fine line between sanity and insanity.
Sorry I hope I haven’t offended anyone but I do speak from the heart.
You didn’t know that your husband was depressed & was to later commit suicide and you lived with him .
How can authorities know when someone will commit suicide.
Depression comes and goes & maybe the authorities misjudged his state of mind & thought he was in a fit state .
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Selenite: Your post is not offensive at all Nules. Love and hugs
You speak from the heart and deep awareness
Can't say the same about ycn's statements which show a distinct lack of awareness at least
Thank you Selenite You speak from the heart and deep awareness
Can't say the same about ycn's statements which show a distinct lack of awareness at least
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Geno2809: So .. if someone develops mental health issues it's the parents fault ..
If someone is on suicide watch in a mental health facility, and is able to leave, the hospital bear no responsibility ..
Do you know how depression works . If someone is on suicide watch in a mental health facility, and is able to leave, the hospital bear no responsibility ..
One minute people seem fine & the next , they kill themselves .
You can’t keep a young child locked up indefinitely.
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Youcannow: Well you’ve just emphasised my point .
You didn’t know that your husband was depressed & was to later commit suicide and you lived with him .
How can authorities know when someone will commit suicide.
Depression comes and goes & maybe the authorities misjudged his state of mind & thought he was in a fit state .
He was on suicide watch. That means he is supposed to be accompanied by a mental health professional 24/7You didn’t know that your husband was depressed & was to later commit suicide and you lived with him .
How can authorities know when someone will commit suicide.
Depression comes and goes & maybe the authorities misjudged his state of mind & thought he was in a fit state .
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Youcannow: Do you know how depression works .
One minute people seem fine & the next , they kill themselves .
You can’t keep a young child locked up indefinitely.
Yes I know very well how depression works. I'm not sure that you do though ..One minute people seem fine & the next , they kill themselves .
You can’t keep a young child locked up indefinitely.
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Geno2809: He was on suicide watch. That means he is supposed to be accompanied by a mental health professional 24/7
Do you know the full facts ? He may have escaped.
24 hour suicide watch is not a prison ya know .
People are allowed out .
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Nules: So I am I taking from your quote that every person who dies by suicide, their parents have to take the blame???
Because my husband was 41 when he died by suicide and I never blamed his mother. I didn’t even know my husband was depressed!
I do suicide bereavement support and see the pain families are left after a death by suicide, any death is bad but death by suicide has a sting like no other death.
As I have said before “walk a mile in any one’s shoes and then criticize them!”
I have met parents who would have sold their soul to help save their children but couldn’t!
I feel you have never experienced loss to mental health issues or suicide and for that I think you are lucky, please be aware that’s a fine line between sanity and insanity.
Sorry I hope I haven’t offended anyone but I do speak from the heart.
So so sorry Because my husband was 41 when he died by suicide and I never blamed his mother. I didn’t even know my husband was depressed!
I do suicide bereavement support and see the pain families are left after a death by suicide, any death is bad but death by suicide has a sting like no other death.
As I have said before “walk a mile in any one’s shoes and then criticize them!”
I have met parents who would have sold their soul to help save their children but couldn’t!
I feel you have never experienced loss to mental health issues or suicide and for that I think you are lucky, please be aware that’s a fine line between sanity and insanity.
Sorry I hope I haven’t offended anyone but I do speak from the heart.
my heart goes out to you, so many mothers out there that lost a child by suicide, I hope none of then are reading the comment on this thread. So sorry nules. ------ This thread is Archived ------
Geno2809: Yes I know very well how depression works. I'm not sure that you do though ..
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Youcannow: Well you’ve just emphasised my point .
You didn’t know that your husband was depressed & was to later commit suicide and you lived with him .
How can authorities know when someone will commit suicide.
Depression comes and goes & maybe the authorities misjudged his state of mind & thought he was in a fit state .
You missed my point when stating was I to blame his mother for his suicide?You didn’t know that your husband was depressed & was to later commit suicide and you lived with him .
How can authorities know when someone will commit suicide.
Depression comes and goes & maybe the authorities misjudged his state of mind & thought he was in a fit state .
I can safely say that you take 100 people who have died by suicide about 80 of them could have be saved, with the proper care and guidance, we will never save all but there is no proper help for any mental illness and that how suicide seems the solution to a broken minds pain.
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Bid64: So so sorry my heart goes out to you, so many mothers out there that lost a child by suicide, I hope none of then are reading the comment on this thread. So sorry nules.
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Bid64: So so sorry my heart goes out to you, so many mothers out there that lost a child by suicide, I hope none of then are reading the comment on this thread. So sorry nules.
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Nules: You missed my point when stating was I to blame his mother for his suicide?
I can safely say that you take 100 people who have died by suicide about 80 of them could have be saved, with the proper care and guidance, we will never save all but there is no proper help for any mental illness and that how suicide seems the solution to a broken minds pain.
I’m not saying some can’t be saved , but what do you do to save them , other than to keep them locked up 24/7 . I can safely say that you take 100 people who have died by suicide about 80 of them could have be saved, with the proper care and guidance, we will never save all but there is no proper help for any mental illness and that how suicide seems the solution to a broken minds pain.
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Youcannow: Do you know the full facts ?
He may have escaped.
24 hour suicide watch is not a prison ya know .
People are allowed out .
They are not allowed outside the mental health facility, and as stated should be accompanied 24/7.He may have escaped.
24 hour suicide watch is not a prison ya know .
People are allowed out .
I know the fact that he was in a mental health facility on suicide watch.
Do you know the facts to back your statements?
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Bid64: So so sorry my heart goes out to you, so many mothers out there that lost a child by suicide, I hope none of then are reading the comment on this thread. So sorry nules.
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Selenite: A hospital would know when someone will commit suicide because in this very case his medical notes said "SUICIDE WATCH".
Do you understand what it means?
It means a member of staff has to be watching him 24h. That means the member of staff can't even go to the toilet without having someone take over the watch. That's what "Suicide watch" means in a hospital! So if someone who is on suicide watch is able to "abscond" from hospital while they're on suicide watch, it means someone "f*cked up BIG TIME" !!!
By your comments it's pretty obvious you know nothing of the protocols hospitals put in place when they are looking after someone with a mental illness ...
Do you understand what it means?
It means a member of staff has to be watching him 24h. That means the member of staff can't even go to the toilet without having someone take over the watch. That's what "Suicide watch" means in a hospital! So if someone who is on suicide watch is able to "abscond" from hospital while they're on suicide watch, it means someone "f*cked up BIG TIME" !!!
By your comments it's pretty obvious you know nothing of the protocols hospitals put in place when they are looking after someone with a mental illness ...
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Geno2809: They are not allowed outside the mental health facility, and as stated should be accompanied 24/7.
I know the fact that he was in a mental health facility on suicide watch.
Do you know the facts to back your statements?
I know the fact that he was in a mental health facility on suicide watch.
Do you know the facts to back your statements?
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Selenite: A hospital would know when someone will commit suicide because in this very case his medical notes said "SUICIDE WATCH".
Do you understand what it means?
It means a member of staff has to be watching him 24h. That means the member of staff can't even go to the toilet without having someone take over the watch. That's what "Suicide watch" means in a hospital! So if someone who is on suicide watch is able to "abscond" from hospital while they're on suicide watch, it means someone "f*cked up BIG TIME" !!!
By your comments it's pretty obvious you know nothing of the protocols hospitals put in place when they are looking after someone with a mental illness ...
Do you know his mental health situation? Do you understand what it means?
It means a member of staff has to be watching him 24h. That means the member of staff can't even go to the toilet without having someone take over the watch. That's what "Suicide watch" means in a hospital! So if someone who is on suicide watch is able to "abscond" from hospital while they're on suicide watch, it means someone "f*cked up BIG TIME" !!!
By your comments it's pretty obvious you know nothing of the protocols hospitals put in place when they are looking after someone with a mental illness ...
Do you know that some people are deemed safe to go back into a normal environment, but forget , or choose not to take their medication .
Sineads son wasn’t on 24/7 care , as are a lot who escape the the net .
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The parents are responsible for the care & upbringing of their child , which defines them as adults in later life .
We don’t know what family traumas the child faced.
Authorities are there to help , but they can’t be responsible for his state of mind , nor can they be responsible for his suicide.
If someone is on suicide watch in a mental health facility, and is able to leave, the hospital bear no responsibility ..