Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State ( Archived) (245)

Jan 9, 2022 2:46 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Butterflygirl1
Butterflygirl1Butterflygirl1Dublin, Ireland1,080 Posts
Nules

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Jan 9, 2022 2:46 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Bid64
Bid64Bid64Waterford, Ireland7 Threads 5,462 Posts
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Jan 9, 2022 2:47 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Nules
NulesNulesDublin, Ireland617 Posts
Youcannow: I’m sorry also , but you can’t put all the blame on the authorities, is what I’m saying .
Well answer me this if you broke your leg on a Friday evening around 6.30pm what would you do??
Go to the hospital they give you pain relief and they X-ray it then tell you the plan they are going to do for your leg, so you plastered up sent home with all appropriate appointments to come back to the hospital.
Now go to the same hospital at the same time with a broken mind and are told “ ohh there’s no one here to help you come back on Monday and talk to someone, but until then you are still in pain and left with no hope!!
It’s sad to see you have no compassion.
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Jan 9, 2022 2:48 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Youcannow: Do you know his mental health situation?
Do you know that some people are deemed safe to go back into a normal environment, but forget , or choose not to take their medication .
Sineads son wasn’t on 24/7 care , as are a lot who escape the the net .
Which part of 'in hospital on suicide watch' are you struggling with?
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Jan 9, 2022 2:48 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Geno2809: They are not allowed outside the mental health facility, and as stated should be accompanied 24/7.

I know the fact that he was in a mental health facility on suicide watch.

Do you know the facts to back your statements?
Do you know the facts & his mental stability at the time .
I’m sure the authorities are better judges than you or any other wannabe expert on here .
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Jan 9, 2022 2:50 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Nules
NulesNulesDublin, Ireland617 Posts
Bid64: So so sorry my heart goes out to you, so many mothers out there that lost a child by suicide, I hope none of then are reading the comment on this thread. So sorry nules.
Thanks Bid teddybear hug
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Jan 9, 2022 2:50 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Geno2809: Which part of 'in hospital on suicide watch' are you struggling with?
Ok . Seen that you know all the facts , what exactly happened& why was he allowed to leave the hospital?
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Jan 9, 2022 2:51 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Nules
NulesNulesDublin, Ireland617 Posts
Butterflygirl1: Nules
Thanks Butterflygirlhug kiss
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Jan 9, 2022 2:51 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Youcannow: Do you know his mental health situation?
Do you know that some people are deemed safe to go back into a normal environment, but forget , or choose not to take their medication .
Sineads son wasn’t on 24/7 care , as are a lot who escape the the net .
Please don't lecture me about a subject you know nothing about!!!

She said her son absconded from the hospital while he was on suicide watch .... that sentence holds all of the information needed.
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Jan 9, 2022 2:52 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Youcannow: Do you know the facts & his mental stability at the time .
I’m sure the authorities are better judges than you or any other wannabe expert on here .
I know only what has been reported as do you. I understand what suicide watch in a hospital means though ..
How am I a wannabe expert.
I've stated the facts around suicide watch, nothing more.

If anything your comments are the ones coming from a wannabe expert.
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Jan 9, 2022 2:52 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Nules
NulesNulesDublin, Ireland617 Posts
Youcannow: Do you know the facts & his mental stability at the time .
I’m sure the authorities are better judges than you or any other wannabe expert on here .
I hate to say this but you are the only wannabe expert on here!!
Sure we know nothing at allconversing
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Jan 9, 2022 2:52 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Bid64: Selenite
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Jan 9, 2022 2:53 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Selenite: Please don't lecture me about a subject you know nothing about!!!

She said her son absconded from the hospital while he was on suicide watch .... that sentence holds all of the information needed.
That’s her story . So it must be true doh
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Jan 9, 2022 2:53 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Nules
NulesNulesDublin, Ireland617 Posts
Geno2809: I know only what has been reported as do you. I understand what suicide watch in a hospital means though ..
How am I a wannabe expert.
I've stated the facts around suicide watch, nothing more.

If anything your comments are the ones coming from a wannabe expert.
Snap Geno teddybear hug
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Jan 9, 2022 2:54 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Geno2809: I know only what has been reported as do you. I understand what suicide watch in a hospital means though ..
How am I a wannabe expert.
I've stated the facts around suicide watch, nothing more.

If anything your comments are the ones coming from a wannabe expert.
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Jan 9, 2022 2:55 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Selenite
SeleniteSeleniteMálaga, Andalusia Spain59 Threads 1 Polls 6,299 Posts
Youcannow: That’s her story . So it must be true
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Jan 9, 2022 2:55 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Youcannow: Ok . Seen that you know all the facts , what exactly happened& why was he allowed to leave the hospital?
He wasn't allowed to leave.
He left.
The question to be answered is, how is someone who is on suicide watch was able to leave.

You never answered anyones questions as to parents being responsible if their child develops mental health issues ..
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Jan 9, 2022 2:56 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Bid64
Bid64Bid64Waterford, Ireland7 Threads 5,462 Posts
Selenite: A hospital would know when someone will commit suicide because in this very case his medical notes said "SUICIDE WATCH".
Do you understand what it means?
It means a member of staff has to be watching him 24h. That means the member of staff can't even go to the toilet without having someone take over the watch. That's what "Suicide watch" means in a hospital! So if someone who is on suicide watch is able to "abscond" from hospital while they're on suicide watch, it means someone "f*cked up BIG TIME" !!!

By your comments it's pretty obvious you know nothing of the protocols hospitals put in place when they are looking after someone with a mental illness ...
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Jan 9, 2022 2:56 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Geno2809: I know only what has been reported as do you. I understand what suicide watch in a hospital means though ..
How am I a wannabe expert.
I've stated the facts around suicide watch, nothing more.

If anything your comments are the ones coming from a wannabe expert.
You’ve only heard her side of the story .
I’m sure the authorities did their upmost to help the child , but if they are at fault , then I will hold my hands up and apologise.
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Jan 9, 2022 3:00 PM CST Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State
Youcannow
YoucannowYoucannowLondon, Essex, England UK96 Threads 3,523 Posts
Geno2809: He wasn't allowed to leave.
He left.
The question to be answered is, how is someone who is on suicide watch was able to leave.

You never answered anyones questions as to parents being responsible if their child develops mental health issues ..
There are many factors that define a child .
Children often mimic their parents behaviour.
Eg. If you see violence as a child , then more often than not , you will become violent yourself.
The fact that sinead changed religion from Christianity to Islam , shows that there was a part of her that wasn’t happy .
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