Sinead O'Connor condemns Irish State (245)
Geno2809: Mental health care in ireland is treated like the poor relation of the HSE. Funds are constantly being cut and facilities are terrible.
It is almost impossible to get mental health care for anyone u18 here.
It is almost impossible to get mental health care for anyone u18 here.
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Youcannow: Suicide watch doesn’t mean someone is with you 24/7 .
They just keep a close eye & see any change in behaviour.
Sorry, but you are incorrect there. Suicide watch means accompanied 24/7.They just keep a close eye & see any change in behaviour.
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Geno2809: Sorry, but you are incorrect there. Suicide watch means accompanied 24/7.
Ok, so what happened and how did he escape if he was on a 24/7 suicide watch ?------ This thread is Archived ------
Youcannow: Suicide watch doesn’t mean someone is with you 24/7 .
They just keep a close eye & see any change in behaviour.
STOP TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!!!!! They just keep a close eye & see any change in behaviour.
Suicide watch means "a member of staff is assigned just and specifically to watch the person on suicide watch 24h". That member of staff is not allowed to do anything else! No other duties!!!!!
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Youcannow: I wasn’t blaming mother directly , I’m just saying that the timing of her comments are not what I expecting from a bereaving mother .
I didn’t say anything to offend Nules . Stop making up stories & stirring up trouble .
You only said that near the end. I didn’t say anything to offend Nules . Stop making up stories & stirring up trouble .
'Bad parenting' was one comment you made.
I didn't say that you offended Nules. That's not for me to decide.
What I said was that your reply showed a lack of knowledge of mental health and the care plans around it.
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Youcannow: Ok, so what happened and how did he escape if he was on a 24/7 suicide watch ?
It would seem that someone messed up.------ This thread is Archived ------
Selenite: STOP TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!!!!!
Suicide watch means "a member of staff is assigned just and specifically to watch the person on suicide watch 24h". That member of staff is not allowed to do anything else! No other duties!!!!!
You know for a fact that he was on 24 hour suicide watch do you ?Suicide watch means "a member of staff is assigned just and specifically to watch the person on suicide watch 24h". That member of staff is not allowed to do anything else! No other duties!!!!!
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Selenite: STOP TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!!!!!
Suicide watch means "a member of staff is assigned just and specifically to watch the person on suicide watch 24h". That member of staff is not allowed to do anything else! No other duties!!!!!
Exactly. I don't know why that is so hard to understand ..Suicide watch means "a member of staff is assigned just and specifically to watch the person on suicide watch 24h". That member of staff is not allowed to do anything else! No other duties!!!!!
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How much suffering must a person be going through when they decide they can no longer deal with thier life and choose to end it.
No one can know what that feels like unless they've been there.
No one can know what that feels like unless they've been there.
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Geno2809: It would seem that someone messed up.
It’s sad to say but there have been an increase in suicides over the last couple of years , mainly due to the pandemic & how it has affected peoples minds . Some of them come as a complete shock to their families, so it’s impossible to detect everyone suffering from depression & what actions people may take .
Maybe at the time , the authorities felt he was stable enough to be let out into society, I don’t know .
Nobody can really know what goes on in someone’s mind .
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bodleing2: How much suffering must a person be going through when they decide they can no longer deal with thier life and choose to end it.
No one can know what that feels like unless they've been there.
It’s not always about suffering. No one can know what that feels like unless they've been there.
Some people suffer from depression even without having any trauma in their life .
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Youcannow: You know for a fact that he was on 24 hour suicide watch do you ?
Do you know for a fact he wasn't? It will be in his medical notes. The grieving mother can't invent "suicide watch" . It's recorded. There will be notes on his progress or lack of. Suicide watch is not something that can be "made up". It leaves a trail of recorded notes. Meetings with ward manager to make and implement the decision. Ward and psychiatrist appointed as well as date of review according to progress. Also medication prescribed etc.
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Geno2809: It would seem that someone messed up.
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bodleing2: How much suffering must a person be going through when they decide they can no longer deal with thier life and choose to end it.
No one can know what that feels like unless they've been there.
Even some survivors I have spoken to don't fully know what tipped the scale.No one can know what that feels like unless they've been there.
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Geno2809: Exactly. I don't know why that is so hard to understand ..
Geno you are wasting your time it's like talking to a brick wall,
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Selenite: Do you know for a fact he wasn't?
It will be in his medical notes. The grieving mother can't invent "suicide watch" . It's recorded. There will be notes on his progress or lack of. Suicide watch is not something that can be "made up". It leaves a trail of recorded notes. Meetings with ward manager to make and implement the decision. Ward and psychiatrist appointed as well as date of review according to progress. Also medication prescribed etc.
So you don’t know for a fact then !It will be in his medical notes. The grieving mother can't invent "suicide watch" . It's recorded. There will be notes on his progress or lack of. Suicide watch is not something that can be "made up". It leaves a trail of recorded notes. Meetings with ward manager to make and implement the decision. Ward and psychiatrist appointed as well as date of review according to progress. Also medication prescribed etc.
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Bid64: Geno you are wasting your time it's like talking to a brick wall,
Stay out of this discussion unless you have something constructive to say .------ This thread is Archived ------
Youcannow: It’s not always about suffering.
Some people suffer from depression even without having any trauma in their life .
And your point is?Some people suffer from depression even without having any trauma in their life .
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bodleing2: How much suffering must a person be going through when they decide they can no longer deal with thier life and choose to end it.
No one can know what that feels like unless they've been there.
A person very dear to me used to explain to me that "she was more scared of living than of dying" No one can know what that feels like unless they've been there.
Nobody can know ...
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But getting back to the op. For a parent to lose a child is truly heartbreaking. When the loss is due to suicide I cant imagine the anguish for the parents, it must be unbearable.