hollandgirl: I have met a few very nice men but only after I made the first move. These men have seen my picture read my profile but made no move yet are glad when I do. ???????
Would all of the women that would like to practice their rejection techniques please drop me a line!!
Well girls, maybe it s time to speak up. As some of you might remember me saying, Cherokees are matriline and equal to our men in our own way. Means, we choose among all our pretenders, take them in for one year, as homes belong to women...if after one year we still agree,marriage is for lifetime.....if we do not agree, he has to leave and we try another one. Now, my last bf...he was watching me close for 1 year at the disco, never let an eye off from me and improved dancing so very much...one day,I talked to him and praised him. To make it short, we dated for a year and a half, until with heavy heart I told him to look for a girl his age to get married and have the babies he longed so much for....as my time for babies is over...I want to roam around Mother Earth, alone or with someone special, that remains still to be seen.
hollandgirlOPSomewhere in Canada. B.C., British Columbia Canada4,464 posts
Cherokeegrandma: Well girls, maybe it s time to speak up. As some of you might remember me saying, Cherokees are matriline and equal to our men in our own way. Means, we choose among all our pretenders, take them in for one year, as homes belong to women...if after one year we still agree,marriage is for lifetime.....if we do not agree, he has to leave and we try another one. Now, my last bf...he was watching me close for 1 year at the disco, never let an eye off from me and improved dancing so very much...one day,I talked to him and praised him. To make it short, we dated for a year and a half, until with heavy heart I told him to look for a girl his age to get married and have the babies he longed so much for....as my time for babies is over...I want to roam around Mother Earth, alone or with someone special, that remains still to be seen.
Too bad it had to end but you must have know his age before you started with him? Sure like the way you descripe how things work the one year etc. Seems like a grand idea to me.
hollandgirl: Too bad it had to end but you must have know his age before you started with him? Sure like the way you descripe how things work the one year etc. Seems like a grand idea to me.
Sure I knew his age, same as my oldest son...and he knew mine, but we wanted to try and it was the most blessed and cheerful relationship I remember. Would have been wonderful to stay with him, but sometimes, when you do have love in your heart, you need to let go if that is for his/her higher good. He is just starting life...I am far ahead and hope we both have learned a lot from each other.
mbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA16,449 posts
It depends on the personalities involved. I do both...I am very appreciative when a woman makes the 1st move and contacts me. I also have made the initial contact myself.
My contacts are limited though, because I am very shy. There are some guys who would e-mail a woman with a pulse just to see if he gets lucky.
Some women are very aggressive also. So it depends on personality.
Sorry I didn't answer the OP's original question because I believe self-confidence and fear of rejection are another subject that needs deep study and debate.
tipaly81: Lucky for me that I have chatted w/ a few men who are patient and hoest enough that we were able to figure out that we were not ment to eachother. Which is really good. I hate wasting time on someone who is fake.
Why is it that men become more conservative when they are older and women are more likely to voice their concerns and needs? Never could get that.
shipoker58: I will not make the mistake of showing a sense of humor on this site again. It was done as a joke for another member. But I will not be that accomodating again...that's a promise
BUT we love your sense of humour and want our old ship back...bikini and all...and I promise I will put my thong pic back up.....
For years I never made the first move. Yes it had to do with my confidence. At some point though, you just have to put yourself out there. Being single is fun for only so long. Sometimes you just have to man up and take a chance.
I love to make the first move. The problem I find with this is that these relationships don't last for me. The more successful relationships are the ones which the women initiated. Strange!
I think its a mans nature to approach the woman, but somehow they feel we are just a 'player'. I don't know the reason for this.
The other issue is cultural. In some countries it is the male, that makes the first move, who gets the girl. In North America we are afraid they will call '911' and we may be charged for harassment, etc.
hollandgirlOPSomewhere in Canada. B.C., British Columbia Canada4,464 posts
Lonely1: I love to make the first move. The problem I find with this is that these relationships don't last for me. The more successful relationships are the ones which the women initiated. Strange!
I think its a mans nature to approach the woman, but somehow they feel we are just a 'player'. I don't know the reason for this.
The other issue is cultural. In some countries it is the male, that makes the first move, who gets the girl. In North America we are afraid they will call '911' and we may be charged for harassment, etc.
Yes lonely you make a good point. On the other hand both men and women can become stalkers so what to do huh? Play it by ear I suppose, but because letting the woman lead has been more succesful to you perhaps let that be your cue at least for now.
shipoker58: I will not make the mistake of showing a sense of humor on this site again. It was done as a joke for another member. But I will not be that accomodating again...that's a promise
I hope that's a joke....
I certainly appreciated the gesture of comradeship...it's so lonely sometimes being the sole drag queen on this list...
shipoker58: I've said it before and I'll say it again. I will never make the first move. I don't deal well with rejection and women seem to be very creative in insulting men who approach them
I feel the same way, I do not like rejection, but then who is to make the first move if both are scared. I think that is why I have never told anyone I love them, I made the mistake when I was 17, said it to my boyfriend and he freaked, said why are you saying that, I have never told you I love you, have I. Never again.
hollandgirlOPSomewhere in Canada. B.C., British Columbia Canada4,464 posts
kitty01: I feel the same way, I do not like rejection, but then who is to make the first move if both are scared. I think that is why I have never told anyone I love them, I made the mistake when I was 17, said it to my boyfriend and he freaked, said why are you saying that, I have never told you I love you, have I. Never again.
Kitty that is very sad as this is something, if and when you mean it, you should say to each other often! I believe it is not said often enough. Sure wished I could say it to my sweetheart today but he is now gone. Just because this boyfriend at 17 freaked out, does not mean others react this way. It is a new one to me anyway. No one else has ever said this to you in all the years past? Kitty, I love you! Now that was not sooo bad was it and it did feel good? Of course it did that is because it is supposed to feel good!
hollandgirl: Kitty that is very sad as this is something, if and when you mean it, you should say to each other often! I believe it is not said often enough. Sure wished I could say it to my sweetheart today but he is now gone. Just because this boyfriend at 17 freaked out, does not mean others react this way. It is a new one to me anyway. No one else has ever said this to you in all the years past? Kitty, I love you! Now that was not sooo bad was it and it did feel good? Of course it did that is because it is supposed to feel good!
no I do not find it natural to say I love you, even to my kids, they are always saying I never tell them. I was never brought up like that, no one ever said it me so I do not remember to say it to them.
My mom would always say she wished I was never born, or why did I let your dad talk me into having a child.
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These men have seen my picture read my profile but made no move yet are glad when I do. ???????
Would all of the women that would like to practice their rejection techniques please drop me a line!!
go ahead... make my day