pretzelman: I see so many people living in dreams...I am beginning to wonder if there is any sanity left in this world!!do you believe in a soul mate.....yes do you believe in love at first sight........yes would you travel anywhere in the world for love.....yes do you believe love will conquer all....yes do you believe it's only what is on the inside that counts?.....yes does education level count?....no...if there is love what if they have a devestating illness...I don't care as long as there is love what if they have 20 children....it doesn't matter, as long as there is love what if they have scars all over their face....I don't care...it's what is inside that counts What color hair do you prefer...I don't care, as long as there is love what if they are poor....Love is enough Folks, if you were so easy to please....you wouldn't be on a friggen dating site!!
Get a grip!! Face reality!! Love is too elusive...because you glamourize it and fantasize about it till you don't even recognize it when it's right there in front of you
BnaturAl: are you saying you don't like role playing Sol? *trying to imagine Sol in a Ghengis Khan outfit*
What are the parameters here; 'tween Genghis Khan and ...Rudolf Valentino ummm, or perhaps his role as in The Sheik? (what about Steve Martin in The Lonely Guy?)
I am in something, as you know, I feel love, I feel all giggly and tickled, I want to be with him, I want to hold his hand, I want to laugh with him, I want to cry with him, I want to drink him in, I do all of those things.
But will that what I feel conquer all? No, it will as you say make my life more enjoyable and make me smile and enhance my life, is it forever?
Who knows? We do not, all we can do is evolve with it, learn with it, grow with it.
But as that BN states, the only thing that is forever is, forever.
And if he joins me with my forever then great. if not, then I will shed a tear, but the forever will still be there if he is not.
And that is where Ship was right, love does not conquer all, but people think it does.
Hope you are well.
Hi T
I'm good, just a bit cold. One of the joys of living in a northern climate.
When you're in it, every second can feel like forever, enjoy each moment to it's fullest.
jbibiza: I have to disagree... at least for myself and what I perceive love to be... Do we ever stop loving our parents, our children? I look back on the 3 men in my life who I have had serious loving relationships with and can honestly say that I still love them.
We may not always feel that warm fuzziness, or breathless anticipation upon seeing them... but for me, when I have grown to love someone that doesn´t change... but loving someone isn´t always enough for a relationship to work.
And this is another spin on a good topic.
Love is something that is felt by the person alone, we feel love for our close ones.
I see where you are at J, but I see Ship's point.
That people here, alot of them are disillusioned about love and about what it will do for them.
That looks do not matter, they do.
Initially, of course they do.
Like people who say they never lie, that is his point, it is false.
The illusion and dream that love will conquer all.
How many threads do we see?
'Nice guys finish last'
'Why does this hurt?'
'I am talking to a person here and I have not heard from him for four hours and I miss him'
Those are people who, and I feel for them, believe that a person they meet here, will solve their issues and that finsing a person to love will bring them happiness.
I'm good, just a bit cold. One of the joys of living in a northern climate.
When you're in it, every second can feel like forever, enjoy each moment to it's fullest.
mmmm, holding hands.
Hey, your temps are lower than ours, but I bet we have more snow.
Exactly, when you are in it, time can stand still and it can feel like forever.
ANd of course twp people want to be together forever, that is a natural feeling to have with a person that you care about. It is perfectly natural.
Will I love forever? Yes, I will, forever is hopefully for me another 40 years, at least.
I will love forever, always, both men I have loved deeply I will always love forever, my forever, as long as I walk this mortal coil, this man, I will too, in the shirt time that we have spent together.
But that does not mean that we can be together.
Two of them we could not, the third one, remains to be seen.
solitare: What are the parameters here; 'tween Genghis Khan and ...Rudolf Valentino ummm, or perhaps his role as in The Sheik? (what about Steve Martin in The Lonely Guy?)
jbibiza: I have to disagree... at least for myself and what I perceive love to be... Do we ever stop loving our parents, our children? I look back on the 3 men in my life who I have had serious loving relationships with and can honestly say that I still love them.
We may not always feel that warm fuzziness, or breathless anticipation upon seeing them... but for me, when I have grown to love someone that doesn´t change... but loving someone isn´t always enough for a relationship to work.
are you loving them right now? Its all starts and stops me thinks JB, remembering or relighting the fire, reigniting the feelings. We only do it when we "think' about it ... that was my point about forever, life has many other expereinces that remove the attention of any love to other areas of our experience. How long we hang on to the memory for future use depends on the time we have to devote to it and or think about it. And that too depends on our desire to do so
Sommerauer71: And this is another spin on a good topic.
Love is something that is felt by the person alone, we feel love for our close ones.
I see where you are at J, but I see Ship's point.
That people here, alot of them are disillusioned about love and about what it will do for them.
That looks do not matter, they do.
Initially, of course they do.
Like people who say they never lie, that is his point, it is false.
The illusion and dream that love will conquer all.
How many threads do we see?
'Nice guys finish last'
'Why does this hurt?'
'I am talking to a person here and I have not heard from him for four hours and I miss him'
Those are people who, and I feel for them, believe that a person they meet here, will solve their issues and that finsing a person to love will bring them happiness.
Love can bring grief and misery also.
I agree with Ships point absolutely... as I´ve said in my earlier posts, I´m quite realistic about love and think too many people have an idealistic idea of what love is perpetuated by the film industry, romance novels and as Graham added music.
I don´t love quickly... no man is going to here "I love you" come out of my mouth for the first 8 to 10 months of being with him. I may feel infatuation, or lust and respond to it passionately, but I don´t confuse that with love. When I love someone, that love I feel for them is forever, the relationship might not be... but the love is.
The fact that we can´t make a relationship work... does that change who that person is that I can stop loving him? For me, no... and that is where disappointment or hurt comes in, the fact that there are people out there that you do love, but can´t make a relationship work with is very disappointing.
jbibiza: The fact that we can´t make a relationship work... does that change who that person is that I can stop loving him? For me, no... and that is where disappointment or hurt comes in, the fact that there are people out there that you do love, but can´t make a relationship work with is very disappointing.
just asking and I probably dont have to; but, do you misinterpret feelings that are just "longing for old loves" or feelngs of failure in relating (regrets) as 'love" that persists.
I doubt that you do, because it wouldn't be consistent with your other posts... just asking though.
just asking and I probably dont have to; but, do you misinterpret feelings that are just "longing for old loves" or feelngs of failure in relating (regrets) as 'love" that persists.
I doubt that you do, because it wouldn't be consistent with your other posts... just asking though.
You were right in your assumption that I don´t live in the past with feelings of failure or regret. I look back on those relationships with pleasure in the knowledge that I am capable of love... it´s been so long sometimes I start to doubt it... If any of those 3 men were to walk into my life right now they would be greeted with a hug and a conversation lasting hours... I´d want to know what´s happened in their life since I had seen them and I would hope they were happy and in a good place.
I actually am still in contact with one of them... he´s married and has a beautiful little girl, we email or call every month or two and he will always be a good friend.
jbibiza: I agree with Ships point absolutely... as I´ve said in my earlier posts, I´m quite realistic about love and think too many people have an idealistic idea of what love is perpetuated by the film industry, romance novels and as Graham added music.
I don´t love quickly... no man is going to here "I love you" come out of my mouth for the first 8 to 10 months of being with him. I may feel infatuation, or lust and respond to it passionately, but I don´t confuse that with love. When I love someone, that love I feel for them is forever, the relationship might not be... but the love is.
The fact that we can´t make a relationship work... does that change who that person is that I can stop loving him? For me, no... and that is where disappointment or hurt comes in, the fact that there are people out there that you do love, but can´t make a relationship work with is very disappointing.
I am with you there.
Apart from the time limit on when you say I love you to a man.
I do not confuse love with passion and lust, but if I feel a connection with a person, J, and he is displaying signs that he feels deeply for me, then I will respond with what I feel. And if that means I feel I want to tell I love him then I will. Be that within minutes, be that within weeks, months or years. It took me until five years after my divorce to realise that I still had deep feelings for my ex husband, I still loved him, I did not want to be with him.
Deep stirrings can come from passion, you and I both know this, we have both written about it.
We are wired as women to love our children from birth, within minutes we fall in love with those little beings.
But not all people do.
Who says we have to fall in love with our babies? Soceity?
And yes,it is disappointing that we cannot make relationships work, but that disappointment has to be turned into something positive, once we have dealt with our side of the failure, then it is easier to not feel so much disappointment.
just asking and I probably dont have to; but, do you misinterpret feelings that are just "longing for old loves" or feelngs of failure in relating (regrets) as 'love" that persists.
I doubt that you do, because it wouldn't be consistent with your other posts... just asking though.
That is for JB. Yes, as the quote states that I had written it.
This in my opinion is an introduction site and as each individual you do with it as you desire....
Many come with heartache from a past relationship and are disillusioned....
Some their dearest have departed this earth
Some are young and maybe a little naive
Some are old and slightly wiser and more experienced
With love comes lust and desire
Love is something through time that has always been glamourised why because we all want it and need it because it simply makes us feel good.... actually awesome!
I personally think love is a wonderful gift. But as I have stated before, I am not a young thing that believes it is like a soap opera. Of course there are disagreements, disappointments and sometimes even thoughts of getting out, but the great thing for me anyway, was taking time to calm down, think about what angered us and either talk about it calmly or apologize if you are wrong, then make up and forget it. I will continue to believe someone is out there waiting for me and me for him. When that day comes I will feel completely free to be me once again. I am who I am and I like myself a great deal but I am not a person who wants to go the rest of my life alone.(JMO)
jbibiza: You were right in your assumption that I don´t live in the past with feelings of failure or regret. I look back on those relationships with pleasure in the knowledge that I am capable of love... it´s been so long sometimes I start to doubt it... If any of those 3 men were to walk into my life right now they would be greeted with a hug and a conversation lasting hours... I´d want to know what´s happened in their life since I had seen them and I would hope they were happy and in a good place.
I actually am still in contact with one of them... he´s married and has a beautiful little girl, we email or call every month or two and he will always be a good friend.
Enjoy the pub, I´m off to bed... I have a houseful of people coming over tomorrow and still haven´t decorated, so it´s an early morning for me (all the cooking is finished though!!!!!)
Guys and girls... it´s been lovely as always... (ok...most of the time...)
I think the underlying message of ship/pretz´s thread is that so many people here say, in countless threads, that they can accept almost any flaw in a potential partner, or words to that effect, be it physical or emotional. That being the case, it´s amazing there are so many members of the site.
People who make honest statements about what they don´t want are often shot down in flames for being "cruel" or "insensitive". Sometimes however, these statements are just that, because they have been either worded insensitively, or made as a provocative, personal attack.
If peope can´t be honest, it´s better to keep personal preferences to oneself, rather than lie in order to win the CS Ms or Mr Perfect, Tolerant, Humane etc etc being award,
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do you believe in love at first sight........yes
would you travel anywhere in the world for love.....yes
do you believe love will conquer all....yes
do you believe it's only what is on the inside that counts?.....yes
does education level count?....no...if there is love
what if they have a devestating illness...I don't care as long as there is love
what if they have 20 children....it doesn't matter, as long as there is love
what if they have scars all over their face....I don't care...it's what is inside that counts
What color hair do you prefer...I don't care, as long as there is love
what if they are poor....Love is enough
Folks, if you were so easy to please....you wouldn't be on a friggen dating site!!
Get a grip!! Face reality!! Love is too elusive...because you glamourize it and fantasize about it till you don't even recognize it when it's right there in front of you
.. very good point