US is negotiating with Taliban (433)
chris27292729: You failed to say,that US as a leading member of NATO,in a sort of way,demanded from its NATO allies,their support,which all the NATO members obliged.-The NATO did not declared war in Afghanistan,US did.
US was attacked by an entity in Afghanistan. NATO being a defensive organization manned up as per their agreement and aided the US just as if the Soviet Union attacked Germany.
No demand at all unless of course you deem living up to an agreement you signed is being 'demanded' of.
Ccincy: Watch someone boo hoo what you just posted.
BooHoo!There you go!
chris27292729: You failed to say,that US as a leading member of NATO,in a sort of way,demanded from its NATO allies,their support,which all the NATO members obliged.-The NATO did not declared war in Afghanistan,US did.
Coordination DOES NOT mean commanding Chris....The US does not dictate to NATO.....NATO operates within the guidelines of an agreement signed by 28 countries....It is a partnership Chris.....
Within that partnership you will find both structured and bilateral partnerships.....Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Why is so hard for you to understand that US declared war on Afghanistan FIRST,not NATO.
leigh2154: Coordination DOES NOT mean commanding Chris....The US does not dictate to NATO.....NATO operates within the guidelines of an agreement signed by 28 countries....It is a partnership Chris.....
Within that partnership you will find both structured and bilateral partnerships.....Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Within that partnership you will find both structured and bilateral partnerships.....Why is this so hard for you to understand?
chris27292729: Why is so hard for you to understand that US declared war on Afghanistan FIRST,not NATO.
THAT is your answer?!!!
Yes,and it seems you don't have an answer to my post.
leigh2154: THAT is your answer?!!!
chris27292729: You failed to say,that US as a leading member of NATO,in a sort of way,demanded from its NATO allies,their support,which all the NATO members obliged.-The NATO did not declared war in Afghanistan,US did.
I 'failed' to mention it because it didn't occur to me, as our troops were deployed at the same time. I'll check it though.
Does it really matter? After Bali, among others, it seems the west as a whole was under threat.
chris27292729: Yes,and it seems you don't have an answer to my post.
Here is your answer Chris....
"Operation Enduring Freedom" was NOT a FORMAL declaration of war....It was a MILITARY ENGAGEMENT authorized by congress in 2001 while under the Bush administration and post 9/11 attack ....
I believe the US has FORMALLY declared war five times.....The War of 1812, The Mexican-American War, The Spanish-American War, WWI, and WWII....
Consider you question answered, even though it was not posed as a question, but rather a statement, an erroneous statement at that.....
leigh2154: Here is your answer Chris....
"Operation Enduring Freedom" was NOT a FORMAL declaration of war....It was a MILITARY ENGAGEMENT authorized by congress in 2001 while under the Bush administration and post 9/11 attack ....
I believe the US has FORMALLY declared war five times.....The War of 1812, The Mexican-American War, The Spanish-American War, WWI, and WWII....
Consider you question answered, even though it was not posed as a question, but rather a statement, an erroneous statement at that.....
Your right,because i saw John Wayne in all of those,on the tele."Operation Enduring Freedom" was NOT a FORMAL declaration of war....It was a MILITARY ENGAGEMENT authorized by congress in 2001 while under the Bush administration and post 9/11 attack ....
I believe the US has FORMALLY declared war five times.....The War of 1812, The Mexican-American War, The Spanish-American War, WWI, and WWII....
Consider you question answered, even though it was not posed as a question, but rather a statement, an erroneous statement at that.....
time4fun4u: Your right,because i saw John Wayne in all of those,on the tele.
"True Grit" was my favorite John Wayne movie though!!
leigh2154: "True Grit" was my favorite John Wayne movie though!!
chris27292729: You failed to say,that US as a leading member of NATO,in a sort of way,demanded from its NATO allies,their support,which all the NATO members obliged.-The NATO did not declared war in Afghanistan,US did.
It took NATO two year to find Afghanistan on the map after 911, Chris. And if you read the NATO treaty.....'a attack on one NATO member is attack on all NATO members'.
Today when Syrian troops mass near the Turkey border.....Obama shouts out to Syrian President Assad a warning. Turkey is a NATO member. So if the Syrian troop cross into Turkey chasing the rebllious Syrian that live in the region......what should the
US/NATO do?
Sit back and watch as Turkish towns and cities are ransacked by Syrian troops seeking the the leaders of the rebellion? Not according to the NATO treaty.
ttom500: It took NATO two year to find Afghanistan on the map after 911, Chris. And if you read the NATO treaty.....'a attack on one NATO member is attack on all NATO members'.
Today when Syrian troops mass near the Turkey border.....Obama shouts out to Syrian President Assad a warning. Turkey is a NATO member. So if the Syrian troop cross into Turkey chasing the rebllious Syrian that live in the region......what should the
US/NATO do?
Sit back and watch as Turkish towns and cities are ransacked by Syrian troops seeking the the leaders of the rebellion? Not according to the NATO treaty.
Today when Syrian troops mass near the Turkey border.....Obama shouts out to Syrian President Assad a warning. Turkey is a NATO member. So if the Syrian troop cross into Turkey chasing the rebllious Syrian that live in the region......what should the
US/NATO do?
Sit back and watch as Turkish towns and cities are ransacked by Syrian troops seeking the the leaders of the rebellion? Not according to the NATO treaty.
Tom, it's amazing how treaties and trade agreements are forgotten when one just wants to bash the USA. Good to see you again.
ttom500: It took NATO two year to find Afghanistan on the map after 911, Chris. And if you read the NATO treaty.....'a attack on one NATO member is attack on all NATO members'.
Today when Syrian troops mass near the Turkey border.....Obama shouts out to Syrian President Assad a warning. Turkey is a NATO member. So if the Syrian troop cross into Turkey chasing the rebllious Syrian that live in the region......what should the
US/NATO do?
Sit back and watch as Turkish towns and cities are ransacked by Syrian troops seeking the the leaders of the rebellion? Not according to the NATO treaty.
Today when Syrian troops mass near the Turkey border.....Obama shouts out to Syrian President Assad a warning. Turkey is a NATO member. So if the Syrian troop cross into Turkey chasing the rebllious Syrian that live in the region......what should the
US/NATO do?
Sit back and watch as Turkish towns and cities are ransacked by Syrian troops seeking the the leaders of the rebellion? Not according to the NATO treaty.
Hi TT!!!!!!
Chris might be blinded by------------for the US!
Or he just does not understand NATO...what it is, how it works, you know TT, the basics!!
Reread my post saying"Nato did not declared war on Afghanistan,US did". Do you want to call it WAR or Military Engagement on Afghanistan????,please youself,the point is, US started and not Nato.Some countries,including NATO countries, took part in the operations forming ISAF,long after US forming OEF,and finally on 11/10/2003 Nato assumed the leadership of ISAF.Erroneous statement to you??? Don't think so.-
leigh2154: Here is your answer Chris....
"Operation Enduring Freedom" was NOT a FORMAL declaration of war....It was a MILITARY ENGAGEMENT authorized by congress in 2001 while under the Bush administration and post 9/11 attack ....
I believe the US has FORMALLY declared war five times.....The War of 1812, The Mexican-American War, The Spanish-American War, WWI, and WWII....
Consider you question answered, even though it was not posed as a question, but rather a statement, an erroneous statement at that.....
.. 1635 US personel have died in Afghanistan for an unwinnable war."Operation Enduring Freedom" was NOT a FORMAL declaration of war....It was a MILITARY ENGAGEMENT authorized by congress in 2001 while under the Bush administration and post 9/11 attack ....
I believe the US has FORMALLY declared war five times.....The War of 1812, The Mexican-American War, The Spanish-American War, WWI, and WWII....
Consider you question answered, even though it was not posed as a question, but rather a statement, an erroneous statement at that.....
ttom500: It took NATO two year to find Afghanistan on the map after 911, Chris. And if you read the NATO treaty.....'a attack on one NATO member is attack on all NATO members'.
Today when Syrian troops mass near the Turkey border.....Obama shouts out to Syrian President Assad a warning. Turkey is a NATO member. So if the Syrian troop cross into Turkey chasing the rebllious Syrian that live in the region......what should the
US/NATO do?
Sit back and watch as Turkish towns and cities are ransacked by Syrian troops seeking the the leaders of the rebellion? Not according to the NATO treaty.
A military attack not a terrorist one,bring the wlole in chapter NATO in.Today when Syrian troops mass near the Turkey border.....Obama shouts out to Syrian President Assad a warning. Turkey is a NATO member. So if the Syrian troop cross into Turkey chasing the rebllious Syrian that live in the region......what should the
US/NATO do?
Sit back and watch as Turkish towns and cities are ransacked by Syrian troops seeking the the leaders of the rebellion? Not according to the NATO treaty.
chris27292729: Reread my post saying"Nato did not declared war on Afghanistan,US did". Do you want to call it WAR or Military Engagement on Afghanistan????,please youself,the point is, US started and not Nato.Some countries,including NATO countries, took part in the operations forming ISAF,long after US forming OEF,and finally on 11/10/2003 Nato assumed the leadership of ISAF.Erroneous statement to you??? Don't think so.-.. 1635 US personel have died in Afghanistan for an unwinnable war.
US did not formally declare war on Afghanistan, if it makes you feel better to make false statements, then by all means go for it.....you agenda has become so boring Chris....
Unwinnable is not even a word!!
Which one is a false statement,just because you cannot face the truth,am not becoming boring,you becoming.Have you got any proof that US,did not start FIRST, its Military Engagement in Afghanistan.????
leigh2154: US did not formally declare war on Afghanistan, if it makes you feel better to make false statements, then by all means go for it.....you agenda has become so boring Chris....
Unwinnable is not even a word!!
Unwinnable is not even a word!!
chris27292729: Which one is a false statement,just because you cannot face the truth,am not becoming boring,you becoming.Have you got any proof that US,did not start FIRST, its Military Engagement in Afghanistan.????
Why are you repeating yourself, is you record scratched or something?!!??...
chris27292729: A military attack not a terrorist one,bring the wlole in chapter NATO in.
Chris....so you try to say that 911 was not a attack? Come on Chris even you cannot be that blind. 911 was most definitely an attack. A military target was selected....the Pentagon. 1000s of civilians were killed.
So? The US was not going to Afghanistan on a bin Laden hunt with two sheriffs from Mayberry, USA (with only one with a single bullet in his gun).... just to be political correct for you or other European librals that want to play word games.
chris27292729: Reread my post saying"Nato did not declared war on Afghanistan,US did". Do you want to call it WAR or Military Engagement on Afghanistan????,please youself,the point is, US started and not Nato.Some countries,including NATO countries, took part in the operations forming ISAF,long after US forming OEF,and finally on 11/10/2003 Nato assumed the leadership of ISAF.Erroneous statement to you??? Don't think so.-.. 1635 US personel have died in Afghanistan for an unwinnable war.
But we got bin Laden!!
Wow_Factor: You're not going to get that on here
RATZ............................
back to bedttom500: You just did .....it is still not interesting. Now if Leigh were to.....
Point taken 
Wow_Factor: You're not going to get that on here
I cant get it anywhere! 
time4fun4u: I cant get it anywhere!
Time with your suave European ways don't kid us. The stretch of ones creditibility only goes so far.
Negotiating? It's about bloody time. As to the position, "These are the people guilty of 9-11!", your point is? The Taliban exists because they were created jointly by the US (specifically the CIA) and Pakistan during the Cold War. The CIA and US foreign policy have been playing a dirty game for many years, and have caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents. 9-11 is a scrape on the knee compared to the humanitarian crimes the CIA and US foreign policy are guilty of. It's really a case of the chickens coming home to roost.
The US has long got away with thinking it's untouchable, and above being included in the death and destruction it has engineered in other countries.
As to negotiating with the Taliban, for the US this is like a father negotiating with a son he trained to be a killer, turned him loose to work some agenda, and when the dirty deed was done spat in his face instead of saying so much as "well done".
In other words, chances of making things right aren't good, but the onus is on the US to make the effort, regardless the outcome.
The US has long got away with thinking it's untouchable, and above being included in the death and destruction it has engineered in other countries.
As to negotiating with the Taliban, for the US this is like a father negotiating with a son he trained to be a killer, turned him loose to work some agenda, and when the dirty deed was done spat in his face instead of saying so much as "well done".
In other words, chances of making things right aren't good, but the onus is on the US to make the effort, regardless the outcome.
ttom500: Time with your suave European ways don't kid us. The stretch of ones creditibility only goes so far.
In Pakistan well done.
ttom500: But we got bin Laden!!
Negotiating? It's about bloody time. As to the position, "These are the people guilty of 9-11!", your point is? The Taliban exists because they were created jointly by the US (specifically the CIA) and Pakistan during the Cold War. The CIA and US foreign policy have been playing a dirty game for many years, and have caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocents. 9-11 is a scrape on the knee compared to the humanitarian crimes the CIA and US foreign policy are guilty of. It's really a case of the chickens coming home to roost.
The US has long got away with thinking it's untouchable, and above being included in the death and destruction it has engineered in other countries.
As to negotiating with the Taliban, for the US this is like a father negotiating with a son he trained to be a killer, turned him loose to work some agenda, and when the dirty deed was done spat in his face instead of saying so much as "well done".
In other words, chances of making things right aren't good, but the onus is on the US to make the effort, regardless the outcome.
The US has long got away with thinking it's untouchable, and above being included in the death and destruction it has engineered in other countries.
As to negotiating with the Taliban, for the US this is like a father negotiating with a son he trained to be a killer, turned him loose to work some agenda, and when the dirty deed was done spat in his face instead of saying so much as "well done".
In other words, chances of making things right aren't good, but the onus is on the US to make the effort, regardless the outcome.
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