US is negotiating with Taliban (433)

well I provided proof and yet, all you have done is throw out a series of links with no quotes so I have no idea of what they are or what point you are attempting to make. Perhaps if you were to quote what it is I am supposed to be looking at and why rather than expecting us all to read every web site on the internet.

As for my proof, I countered yours and Robbies contention that the CIA trained Bin Laden with one quote, a link as well as an explanation as to who the gentleman was that was speaking.

Go ahead, read and reply.

Just found the lnk below but I have no idea just how reliable it is.

CIA-Osama Bin Laden Controversy

Peter Bergen (born 1962) is a print and television journalist, author, and CNN's national security analyst. Bergen produced the first television interview with Osama Bin Laden in 1997. The interview, which aired on CNN, marked the first time that bin Laden declared war against the United States to a Western audience. Bergen has written three books: Holy War, Inc., The Osama bin Laden I Know, and The Longest War: The Enduring Conflict Between America and al-Qaeda (Jan. 2011).

Bergen is on the editorial board of Studies in Conflict and Terrorism, and has testified before several congressional committees, including the House of Representatives Homeland Security Committee and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. He is a member of the National Security Preparedness Group, a successor to the 9/11 Commission, and is the co-editor of the AfPak Channel, a joint publication of Foreign Policy (magazine) and the New America Foundation that can be accessed at

He was the recipient of the Edward R. Murrow Award from the Overseas Press Club in 1994. His first book, Holy War, Inc. has been translated in 18 languages, and both it and his second book, The Osama bin Laden I Know, were named among the best non-fiction books of the year by the Washington Post. Documentaries based on both books were nominated for Emmys in 2002 and 2007. His most recent book is The Longest War: The Enduring Conflict between America and Al-Qaeda (Free Press, Jan. 2011), it is a encompassing overview of the war on terror.

Bergen has reported on al-Qaeda, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and counterterrorism and homeland security for a range of American newspapers and magazines including the New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Foreign Affairs, The Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, The Atlantic, Rolling Stone, Time, The Nation, The National Interest, Mother Jones, Newsweek, and Vanity Fair. He is a contributing editor at The New Republic. His story on extraordinary rendition for Mother Jones was part of a package of stories nominated for a 2008 National Magazine Award. He has also written for newspapers and magazines around the world such as The Guardian, The Times of London, The Daily Telegraph, International Herald Tribune, Prospect magazine, El Mundo (Spain), La Repubblica, The National (Abu Dhabi), and Die Welt. He has worked as a correspondent for National Geographic Television and Discovery Television, and CNN. On May 2, 2011, shortly after it was reported that Osama bin Laden had been killed, Bergen stated on CNN, "Killing bin Laden is the end of the War on Terror. We can just sort of announce that right now."

Oh please, I'm getting tired by your circular pathetic juvenile amateur psychology.

I'll repeat it again, they are WITNESSES.

Had you listened to the interview, you would have heard, the professionals credentials, and the facts yourself.

Keep frankly asking for quotes, when i've even directed you to audio interviews is just being evasive on your part.

Likewise the book....have you read that?

Have any experience within Intelligence circles, or know anyone with experience in dealing with any form of classified data?

Please, I'm wasting my time with you when you don't even look at the material, or know anything about the region.

Do you have any connections whatsoever to the region, or any contact with say for instance a SEEBES planner? Doubt it.

Know any ranking intelligence, political or special forces personnel? Anyone who's served there???

And you want to cite CNN as the best source available....not the director of Pakistani Intelligence.

Where did you get your critical thinking....Fox News and Newt Gingridge? Borrow Ted Kennedy's brain?

I'll take the head of ISI and people that i know, over your news journalist any day of the week.

Now go get the book i mentioned, and the copy of Janes International and look up both the Anti Aircraft guns, and you'll even learn something about the American defence budget.

As i said, go do this, listen to the testimony from the two respectable sources, look at Janes......confirm the facts about the bofoers guns, then we'll go from there.

Other than that, what more do want me to say? Other than sink to your level?

Not hardly chris.You can can make fun of me all you wish and even attempt to discredit me all you wish but gotta try better then that.I wish the guy was here now cause I'd have him log on and tell you what he told me.