I would go out with an "average" looking woman, especially if she took the initiative to ask me out. Looks plays a role in initial attraction yes, anyone who says it doesn't is a liar. But for me looks is not the determining factor in going out with someone. There's ton's of (not all) "pretty" or "hot" looking women out there that their looks is the only thing they have going for them, because they have no inner beauty.
fieldworking: Me too...I'd go for contacts or the corrective surgery but I've been wearing glasses since I was 10 and I'm 30 now. So, I think I look better with glasses.
Me, wearing it since high school maybe we should date men with glasses too
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
fieldworking: Yes, looks do matter to people. There is a need to be attracted to physically to someone before you can find yourself attracted to someone's personality (inner beauty).
I disagree with you totally.
I once knew a brother and a sister. She was physically very attractive, he wasn't so much. I was really surprised to find they were siblings because they looked so different.
The more I got to know them, the less attractive she became, but he used to make my heart flutter.
I think maybe you should get to know fellas as friends to start with. That attraction thingy can just grow and grow.
fieldworking: I do agree, the looks aren't the only thing to look at when considering to date someone. The way you look does get the attention long enough to see the personality. I know what I'm like. I'm smart, witty/funny, mischevious, and stubborn. Yes, I am looking for a long term relationship that could lead to marriage. I think we all want someone that we are physically attracted to. But I can say, at least for me, that if I went out with an attractive guy and he couldn't keep me intrigued intellectually and make me laugh then it wouldn't last. There are a lot of attractive guys out there but I wouldn't go out with them because they are conceited. I'd give most guys a chance as long as they looked like they took care of themselves and seemed like they had a reasonable personality (as well as something more than marbles between their ears).
I can agree completely with this - after the initial thought that a guy is hot - if he can't keep me interested emotionally & intellectually or as far as humor.....something regarding mind & personality - I will lose interest quickly. I have , more than once, talked with a guy online not knowing exactly what he looked like and been attracted to his personality. I have also been attracted to an average looking guy because we had an emotional connection - if that's not there I won't stick around no matter how good looking he is
online, I do try to give things a little more time than IRL tho because it takes longer to get to know someone online
I once knew a brother and a sister. She was physically very attractive, he wasn't so much. I was really surprised to find they were siblings because they looked so different.
The more I got to know them, the less attractive she became, but he used to make my heart flutter.
I think maybe you should get to know fellas as friends to start with. That attraction thingy can just grow and grow.
Seems you're above a lot of prejudicial things that keep most people from growing.....
Just remember. There are far more of us "average" people than the "hotties". You heard the old adage that beauty is only skin deep. Well it is true. I have met some women I thought were beautiful until I got to know them. Then they were some of the ugliest people in the world and vice versa. Just for the record, I'd probably ask you out.
I once knew a brother and a sister. She was physically very attractive, he wasn't so much. I was really surprised to find they were siblings because they looked so different.
The more I got to know them, the less attractive she became, but he used to make my heart flutter.
I think maybe you should get to know fellas as friends to start with. That attraction thingy can just grow and grow.
You're right that attraction can grow but people don't always take a second look. I've known physically attractive people that have a horrible personality and others that were average or maybe not so average in physical appearance and had a great personality. Sometimes, people have the looks and the personality while others lack a little something in the looks department as well as in their personality.
I have guys that are friends and I think that may be part of the problem. They see me more as friends and not as someone that is dateable.
fieldworking: You're right that attraction can grow but people don't always take a second look. I've known physically attractive people that have a horrible personality and others that were average or maybe not so average in physical appearance and had a great personality. Sometimes, people have the looks and the personality while others lack a little something in the looks department as well as in their personality.
I have guys that are friends and I think that may be part of the problem. They see me more as friends and not as someone that is dateable.
Invite them all round for a pj party, I'm sure after several bottles of wine they will see you differently
fieldworking: You're right that attraction can grow but people don't always take a second look. I've known physically attractive people that have a horrible personality and others that were average or maybe not so average in physical appearance and had a great personality. Sometimes, people have the looks and the personality while others lack a little something in the looks department as well as in their personality.
I have guys that are friends and I think that may be part of the problem. They see me more as friends and not as someone that is dateable.
Sometimes you have to let it ride. Sometimes you have to be bold. Who's to say that they don't want anything more than friendship? They may have greater feelings but feel out of place to share them, so they let it ride. If you have greater feelings for a friend, do you let it ride or could you be bold enough to let them know how you feel? Chance is often worth taking.
YouMeUs: Sometimes you have to let it ride. Sometimes you have to be bold. Who's to say that they don't want anything more than friendship? They may have greater feelings but feel out of place to share them, so they let it ride. If you have greater feelings for a friend, do you let it ride or could you be bold enough to let them know how you feel? Chance is often worth taking.
Good questions. Sometimes these guy friends are already in a relationship (have a girlfriend or are married). I wouldn't want to be the reason that they separated. If I intentionally did something to break up a relationship then who's to say that he wouldn't leave me for someone else. There have been a couple of times when I was interested and didn't say anything and I'm glad I didn't. Before I said anything, a guy friend made a comment about a woman that was slightly overweight (how he wouldn't date a woman that was fat). Well, I never told him how I felt. Why? Because I am overweight. I have lost weight since then, but I am still overweight by 25 lbs. That's a good bit for someone my height, but at least I am now classified as overweight and not obese. That happened just from losing 17 lbs. (eating better and working out at the gym).
I have taken chances and asked guys out. I asked this one guy out (more of an acquaintance than a friend). I had known him for awhile but we didn't see each other frequently. When I asked him, he politely turned me down. Why? He is happily married. I never noticed the wedding ring on his finger when I asked him out (or before that time). That is just one example but the point is there.
Me taking a chance to let a guy know that I am interested can be said for guys and not just women. Of course, I don't think that many women will go up to a guy and let them know that they are interested in being more than friends. At my age, it seems like it is difficult enough just to find friends and even harder to meet guys. Most of the guys that I know are in a similar situation as I am. We're in grad school.
fieldworking: Good questions. Sometimes these guy friends are already in a relationship (have a girlfriend or are married). I wouldn't want to be the reason that they separated. If I intentionally did something to break up a relationship then who's to say that he wouldn't leave me for someone else. There have been a couple of times when I was interested and didn't say anything and I'm glad I didn't. Before I said anything, a guy friend made a comment about a woman that was slightly overweight (how he wouldn't date a woman that was fat). Well, I never told him how I felt. Why? Because I am overweight. I have lost weight since then, but I am still overweight by 25 lbs. That's a good bit for someone my height, but at least I am now classified as overweight and not obese. That happened just from losing 17 lbs. (eating better and working out at the gym).
I have taken chances and asked guys out. I asked this one guy out (more of an acquaintance than a friend). I had known him for awhile but we didn't see each other frequently. When I asked him, he politely turned me down. Why? He is happily married. I never noticed the wedding ring on his finger when I asked him out (or before that time). That is just one example but the point is there.
Me taking a chance to let a guy know that I am interested can be said for guys and not just women. Of course, I don't think that many women will go up to a guy and let them know that they are interested in being more than friends. At my age, it seems like it is difficult enough just to find friends and even harder to meet guys. Most of the guys that I know are in a similar situation as I am. We're in grad school.
Well, that is true if they're in a relationship or married. Definitely off limits there. Those who are available are open game, ready to ask or to be asked for a date. And there isn't anything wrong with women asking men for a date--same as with feeling reserved in that a woman believes that a man should ask. Old school or new school, it doesn't matter as long we uphold our own morals and not settle for less.
Oct 27, 2011 3:00 PM CST Guys: Would you consider going out with an avg. looking woman if she took a chance & asked you out
defmanWillagee, Western Australia Australia64 Posts
defmanWillagee, Western Australia Australia64 posts
fieldworking: I'm asking because I consider myself to be average in appearance. I realize that I will never be one of the prettier women or one of the "hot women." I don't think that I am unattractive. Basically, I think that I'm a 6. Anyway, I was wondering if guys would take a second look at me if I took the chance and asked them out. It doesn't have to be me but just an average looking woman in general.
Yes, I'd go out with you if you'd ask. I'm shy at times, and it's hard for me to figure out what women want when they never says a thing, onlu uses their looks, glances, playing games to my way of thinking. I like plain speaking, honesty.
And what about me? Would you go out with me if I ask? I'm not that good looking either, maybe average. It's really hard to figure women out, everywhere. It makes me tried, wondering all the time. It's like I can feel the invisible wall. Is it my imagination? I don't know. Yet I sees their eyes, staring at me, looking me over all the time, when I'm out there. I'd catch them, and they'd look away quickly. I'm tired of that games. If they're interested, say so, not play games like innuendos kind of thing.
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
fieldworking: You're right that attraction can grow but people don't always take a second look. I've known physically attractive people that have a horrible personality and others that were average or maybe not so average in physical appearance and had a great personality. Sometimes, people have the looks and the personality while others lack a little something in the looks department as well as in their personality.
I have guys that are friends and I think that may be part of the problem. They see me more as friends and not as someone that is dateable.
Very few of our friends become our lovers, but a lover who is not a friend, doesn't stay a lover for very long.
I think very often, maybe particularly with online dating, that people put too much focus, or pressure on themselves to find a lover. If you pile in and make lots of friends (and the forums are very good for that) you may find with one of those friends, the sparks start flying.
almera03: Invite them all round for a pj party, I'm sure after several bottles of wine they will see you differently
Hey man, are you still considering on whether or not you want to publicly apologize to this young lady for making your insensitive remark. Not that I consider myself anywhere close to being a pc police but I'm just hoping you do.
fieldworking: You're right that attraction can grow but people don't always take a second look. I've known physically attractive people that have a horrible personality and others that were average or maybe not so average in physical appearance and had a great personality. Sometimes, people have the looks and the personality while others lack a little something in the looks department as well as in their personality.
I have guys that are friends and I think that may be part of the problem. They see me more as friends and not as someone that is dateable.
The part of your post I´ve highlighted is an interesting point which made me think. Perhaps a big advantage of dating sites, or at least those with active forums such as CS, offer more opportunities for those who are not "drop dead gorgeous". What I mean is that the character and personality can often shine through on the forums and become a greater attribute than good physical looks, which undoubtedly is what gets noticed first and foremost in the "real world".
Anyway, those who are "drop dead gorgeous" are very often scammers or using fake pics. I know of one woman here in Spain who regularly reinvents herself, and country, using fake pics of much younger and beautiful women. It isn´t me btw!
defman: Yes, I'd go out with you if you'd ask. I'm shy at times, and it's hard for me to figure out what women want when they never says a thing, onlu uses their looks, glances, playing games to my way of thinking. I like plain speaking, honesty.
And what about me? Would you go out with me if I ask? I'm not that good looking either, maybe average. It's really hard to figure women out, everywhere. It makes me tried, wondering all the time. It's like I can feel the invisible wall. Is it my imagination? I don't know. Yet I sees their eyes, staring at me, looking me over all the time, when I'm out there. I'd catch them, and they'd look away quickly. I'm tired of that games. If they're interested, say so, not play games like innuendos kind of thing.
Oh well.
Yes, I'd go out with you if you asked. It could be a problem though since you're in Australia and I'm hear in the U.S. I understand where you're coming from. Do guys notice me? Women aren't the only ones who don't say anything. Guys look but don't say anything. It's all in the facial expression...at least it has been in my experience (even though that's about all I get here lately). I feel the same way about guys...if they're interested then so.
I can only talk for myself but I wouldn´t date a person I considered to be average looking or continue dating one that it didn´t click with mentally.
It may very well be so that she might consider herself average but that´s another story. If there´s no physical attraction it doesn´t matter if they are a perfect match in every other way. I rather stay single than get into a relationship with someone who doesn´t attract me on all levels.
But as I said, it is the oppinion I have about the girl that is important not how high or low she ranks herself. I have been with women who have considered themself to be average and I have seen them as perfect 10s.
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