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Jun 18, 2012 1:44 PM CSTORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts

ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG(Vote Below)

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GOD
25
25%
BIG BANG
30
30%
I DON'T KNOW
9
9%
BOTH ARE JUST THEORIES
17
17%
BOTH THEORIES AREN'T INCOMPATIBLE.
20
20%
Total Votes
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In my opinion both options cannot even be called theories for most of his supporters. Just beliefs.

God is part of a religious belief, learned from chilhood.

The Big Bang is a belief supported by people who learned the existence of that scientific theory, but they do not understand or know how to explain. They support this idea as others support the idea of a creator.

Scientists know (but they not know all), the rest talks absolutely without knowledge.
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Jun 18, 2012 1:49 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
GUZMAN1: In my opinion both options cannot even be called theories for most of his supporters. Just beliefs.

God is part of a religious belief, learned from chilhood.

The Big Bang is a belief supported by people who learned the existence of that scientific theory, but they do not understand or know how to explain. They support this idea as others support the idea of a creator.

Scientists know (but they not know all), the rest talks absolutely without knowledge.
how about,God created billions of big bangs,and we r the result of only one of them.(my theory)
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Jun 18, 2012 2:13 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Susanne1
Susanne1Susanne1Kreuzberg, Berlin Germany7 Threads 2 Polls 437 Posts
Once upon a time, before god created earth and humans, he felt some ungodly stirring in his loins. He tried to pull off the offending organ he had bestowed on himself in order to rectify his own mistake when suddenly... wow wow wow

Thus the universe was created. True story. There's no way you can argue against that one. laugh
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Jun 18, 2012 2:30 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
OMG, God had a mistaken Lobotomy then,instead having one on his brain,he had one on his loins.And i thought he never made mistakes.rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Susanne1: Once upon a time, before god created earth and humans, he felt some ungodly stirring in his loins. He tried to pull off the offending organ he had bestowed on himself in order to rectify his own mistake when suddenly...

Thus the universe was created. True story. There's no way you can argue against that one.
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Jun 18, 2012 2:42 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
GUZMAN1: In my opinion both options cannot even be called theories for most of his supporters. Just beliefs.

God is part of a religious belief, learned from chilhood.

The Big Bang is a belief supported by people who learned the existence of that scientific theory, but they do not understand or know how to explain. They support this idea as others support the idea of a creator.

Scientists know (but they not know all), the rest talks absolutely without knowledge.


Well there is factual information that our immediate universe is expanding from some common point. Hence the Big Bang theory. From my understanding. But no one knows what that took place in, or what that bubble, the universe, is expanding in. No one knows what eternity is. It is a total mystery. Religion minded people have put forth all kinds of ridiculous explanations, a human like God with a whole happy family, eternal bliss or damnation. Truth is, they don't know that any better then you or I or Jesus for that matter. Any one who tells you so, you have to take their word for it. They sell a lot of books. There are scientists too who want to make a scientific religion and tell us that they will soon have the explanation of it all.
Science at least has been uncovering and will continue to discover truths in this mystery. In the past, the dark ages, they were burned, tortured, beheaded, etc. or imprisoned for this, by religious zealots. Religious zealots would like to push us back to those days, they dominate at least 1 political party in the US.
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Jun 18, 2012 2:42 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
GUZMAN1: In my opinion both options cannot even be called theories for most of his supporters. Just beliefs.

God is part of a religious belief, learned from chilhood.

The Big Bang is a belief supported by people who learned the existence of that scientific theory, but they do not understand or know how to explain. They support this idea as others support the idea of a creator.

Scientists know (but they not know all), the rest talks absolutely without knowledge.


Well there is factual information that our immediate universe is expanding from some common point. Hence the Big Bang theory. From my understanding. But no one knows what that took place in, or what that bubble, the universe, is expanding in. No one knows what eternity is. It is a total mystery. Religion minded people have put forth all kinds of ridiculous explanations, a human like God with a whole happy family, eternal bliss or damnation. Truth is, they don't know that any better then you or I or Jesus for that matter. Any one who tells you so, you have to take their word for it. They sell a lot of books. There are scientists too who want to make a scientific religion and tell us that they will soon have the explanation of it all.
Science at least has been uncovering and will continue to discover truths in this mystery. In the past, the dark ages, they were burned, tortured, beheaded, etc. or imprisoned for this, by religious zealots. Religious zealots would like to push us back to those days, they dominate at least 1 political party in the US.
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Jun 18, 2012 2:42 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
GUZMAN1: In my opinion both options cannot even be called theories for most of his supporters. Just beliefs.

God is part of a religious belief, learned from chilhood.

The Big Bang is a belief supported by people who learned the existence of that scientific theory, but they do not understand or know how to explain. They support this idea as others support the idea of a creator.

Scientists know (but they not know all), the rest talks absolutely without knowledge.


Well there is factual information that our immediate universe is expanding from some common point. Hence the Big Bang theory. From my understanding. But no one knows what that took place in, or what that bubble, the universe, is expanding in. No one knows what eternity is. It is a total mystery. Religion minded people have put forth all kinds of ridiculous explanations, a human like God with a whole happy family, eternal bliss or damnation. Truth is, they don't know that any better then you or I or Jesus for that matter. Any one who tells you so, you have to take their word for it. They sell a lot of books. There are scientists too who want to make a scientific religion and tell us that they will soon have the explanation of it all.
Science at least has been uncovering and will continue to discover truths in this mystery. In the past, the dark ages, they were burned, tortured, beheaded, etc. or imprisoned for this, by religious zealots. Religious zealots would like to push us back to those days, they dominate at least 1 political party in the US.
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Jun 18, 2012 2:44 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
Science has not yet come up with a computer for me. Sorry about the repeats.
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Jun 18, 2012 3:14 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Susanne1
Susanne1Susanne1Kreuzberg, Berlin Germany7 Threads 2 Polls 437 Posts
Dadude62: Science has not yet come up with a computer for me. Sorry about the repeats.


This is what happens when you click the mouse too much. rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

God, is it you?? laugh
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Jun 18, 2012 3:14 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
To be honest, I do not know - I was not there, and no one I know or have heard of was. I do however see the law of the universe, which is causation.

We can agree on the big bang hypothetically as the most probably, and I would be happy about that, because then we could speculate about what caused it grin
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Jun 18, 2012 3:14 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
You left out "None of the Above"
Actually, the big bang is a theory. God is a myth.
Neither one of them is correct.
The whole big bang theory is based on a simplistic assumption.
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Jun 18, 2012 3:42 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
Susanne1: This is what happens when you click the mouse too much.

God, is it you??


Yes of course,, lol
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Jun 18, 2012 3:47 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Susanne1
Susanne1Susanne1Kreuzberg, Berlin Germany7 Threads 2 Polls 437 Posts
Dadude62: Yes of course,, lol


OMG!! Allow me to bowing bowing bowing
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Jun 18, 2012 4:07 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Dadude62: Well there is factual information that our immediate universe is expanding from some common point. Hence the Big Bang theory. From my understanding. But no one knows what that took place in, or what that bubble, the universe, is expanding in. No one knows what eternity is. It is a total mystery. Religion minded people have put forth all kinds of ridiculous explanations, a human like God with a whole happy family, eternal bliss or damnation. Truth is, they don't know that any better then you or I or Jesus for that matter. Any one who tells you so, you have to take their word for it. They sell a lot of books. There are scientists too who want to make a scientific religion and tell us that they will soon have the explanation of it all.
Science at least has been uncovering and will continue to discover truths in this mystery. In the past, the dark ages, they were burned, tortured, beheaded, etc. or imprisoned for this, by religious zealots. Religious zealots would like to push us back to those days, they dominate at least 1 political party in the US.


I agree what yoy wrote about these zealots.

The opposite of them are scientists making religion, that's true. And agnostics believing them laugh

Religion trying to be science, that's wrong, but at least believe in God can make some people act in an ethical manner consistent with these beliefs.

But people who believe in the Big Bang without knowing what is or could be that idea does not make them do better or wiser.
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Jun 18, 2012 4:50 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
EagleWoman
EagleWomanEagleWomanMalaga, Andalusia Spain22 Threads 4,719 Posts
GUZMAN1: I agree what yoy wrote about these zealots.

The opposite of them are scientists making religion, that's true. And agnostics believing them

Religion trying to be science, that's wrong, but at least believe in God can make some people act in an ethical manner consistent with these beliefs.

But people who believe in the Big Bang without knowing what is or could be that idea does not make them do better or wiser.


I know plenty of people who don´t believe in religion who are plenty more wiser, kinder, ethical and generous of heart than plenty who do. So you can´t go generalising that being religious = better values scold
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Jun 18, 2012 4:54 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
olaix
olaixolaixValhalla, Nordland Norway52 Threads 6 Polls 1,119 Posts
Basically, if u look at the language used in science, you will find that it has a whole other quality, than the language of politics and religion.

In the first case, the words are carefully chosen, analyzed and tested, and the results are emerging facts about the physical existence.

In the second case, words and symbols are not used as standing, perhaps inadequately, for things and events, but as a illustration that creates the things or events.

Politics is as outdated as religion in that sense, and the people are just as stupid in buying it as they bought the religious mess of the past. So enjoy the crusade.

Then what is missing, is the science of the human consciousness, the parts where thoughts cannot reach.

Still, I think there is something worthy the name, or word, God
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Jun 18, 2012 5:03 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
jono7
jono7jono7Out West, British Columbia Canada3 Threads 8,017 Posts
"in the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded"
- Terry Pratchett -
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Jun 18, 2012 5:10 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
HarryONeill1978
HarryONeill1978HarryONeill1978Gorey, Wexford Ireland1 Threads 1 Polls 4 Posts
Big bang theory all the way. If there was a God he or she wouldn't have allowed the attrocities that have happened in the past and also in the present day. How could a God, deity, higher power or whatever else you want to call it idly stand by and watch their creation cause so much pain and suffering to each other. I know there is free will to all men (and women) but that really would be taking it too far. God was just a way for the church (religion) to have power over us and to keep us where they wanted us. Giving to them in other words. Sorry but religion has had its day and its time to move on from the days of stoning women and having witch hunts. After all ... we are not animals. Oh, actually, wait a minute .........
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Jun 18, 2012 5:14 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
exsplain nothing.....!!!........nothing is nothing........but surrounded by something.............like all your heads.......if you didnt know that..........snooty snooty snooty rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 18, 2012 5:19 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
trueheart1941: exsplain nothing.....!!!........nothing is nothing........but surrounded by something.............like all your heads.......if you didnt know that..........
......take a hole for instance,s........you dig out something to make nothin.....right...!!!but around the rim......is something......earth......grin
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Jun 18, 2012 5:20 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
youretheboss
yourethebossyourethebossMurarrie, Queensland Australia1 Threads 100 Posts
Nobody knows anything for sure. Even if they say they do, it is no more than a belief.
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Jun 18, 2012 5:26 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
trueheart1941
trueheart1941trueheart1941brentwood essex, Essex, England UK27 Threads 8,005 Posts
youretheboss: Nobody knows anything for sure. Even if they say they do, it is no more than a belief.
......gollocks............rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 18, 2012 5:34 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
sirLarryIII
sirLarryIIIsirLarryIIIClump, Kildare Ireland72 Threads 9 Polls 2,016 Posts
If by the universe you mean the empty space surrounding planets and stars,well it can't have an origin.Empty space is just nothingless.Nothingless can't have a begining as its nothing to begin withprofessor laugh
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Jun 18, 2012 5:36 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
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Jun 18, 2012 5:56 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
Leo_7: how about,God created billions of big bangs,and we r the result of only one of them.(my theory)


Many scientists like the multiverse theory. It removes the puzzle of how the laws of nature of our single universe seem so suited for producing life. The multiverse idea can explain this happening more down to chance rather than by some divine cosmic design.
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Jun 18, 2012 6:07 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
sirLarryIII: If by the universe you mean the empty space surrounding planets and stars,well it can't have an origin.Empty space is just nothingless.Nothingless can't have a begining as its nothing to begin with


Well if it never began it can't be,,,. If it did then what was there before that,,,,If it never began and is, then that is a total mystery, or the real God if you will. No happy family, no son, no virgin birth, no resurrection, no heaven or hell after life,,,, all inventions of religion.
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Jun 18, 2012 6:10 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
RDM59: Many scientists like the multiverse theory. It removes the puzzle of how the laws of nature of our single universe seem so suited for producing life. The multiverse idea can explain this happening more down to chance rather than by some divine cosmic design.


Maybe an attempt by science to create a religion,,,,
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Jun 18, 2012 6:13 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
Dadude62: Maybe an attempt by science to create a religion,,,,


or perhaps just to help debunk the existing ones.
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Jun 18, 2012 8:28 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
well I did yell out OMG during my last big bangdevil


does that countflirty ??
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Jun 18, 2012 8:32 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
microherd
microherdmicroherdKildare, Ireland4 Threads 252 Posts
jono7: "in the beginning, there was nothing, which exploded"
- Terry Pratchett -


Careful now, you'll rupture the brain cells of physics students with that type of heresy rolling on the floor laughing
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Jun 19, 2012 7:11 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
EagleWoman: I know plenty of people who don´t believe in religion who are plenty more wiser, kinder, ethical and generous of heart than plenty who do. So you can´t go generalising that being religious = better values


I didn´t generalise.

Many people are wise, for example those who accept they don't know what could be the origin of Universe.

Others keep an ethical behavior without having a religion, and many keep an ethical behavior BECAUSE THEY HAD A RELIGION.

In any case, that doesn't change the fact that many do not have any scientific knowledge and they support the Big Bang theory, simply because they dislike religion.

Can you explain exactly what was the Big Bang, why it didn't happen before or after, what was the reason, the cause?

If you know it, congratulations, but you can listen everyday supporters of the Big Bang theory that not even know who was Newton or Kopernik.
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