ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG (131)

Jun 19, 2012 11:11 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
ooby_dooby: You left out "None of the Above"
Actually, the big bang is a theory. God is a myth.
Neither one of them is correct.
The whole big bang theory is based on a simplistic assumption.



Im with Ooobs on this one handshake wine
Jun 19, 2012 11:11 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
venusenvy
venusenvyvenusenvyCalgary, Alberta Canada27 Threads 20,003 Posts
felixis99: well I did yell out OMG during my last big bang does that count ??


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing wine
Jun 19, 2012 12:44 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,523 Posts
ooby_dooby: You left out "None of the Above"
Actually, the big bang is a theory. God is a myth.
Neither one of them is correct.
The whole big bang theory is based on a simplistic assumption.
I don't know "the answer" any more than anyone else, but I think I do have a handle on this: We are always trying to figure things out with the limited tools (senses, etc...) we have here, in this somewhat confined "life", as we know in the here and now. For example, not everything is necessarily three dimensional. Perhaps science fiction writers have a glimmer of truth in ideas concerning wrinkling and condensing areas and distances in Space. Some researchers believe that both Mars and Venus were second and third "Earth's". Some believe that Mars may yet be evolving. The concept of Time may be a gross error, or at least, not a factor in the final analysis. (oh how I love this stuff!)
Jun 22, 2012 2:54 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Bluefish22
Bluefish22Bluefish22Chooksville, Bay of Plenty New Zealand16 Threads 1 Polls 909 Posts
I don't care. Makes no difference to me, I am alive, on my planet, with lots of pretty stars at night, and a nice warm sun in the day.
Jun 22, 2012 3:56 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Leo_7: how about,God created billions of big bangs,and we r the result of only one of them.(my theory)

Impressive ...thumbs up
Jun 24, 2012 3:48 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Bluefish22: I don't care. Makes no difference to me, I am alive, on my planet, with lots of pretty stars at night, and a nice warm sun in the day.


thumbs up I think it's better to enjoy those things that waste your time singing hallelujahs or looking for explanations (unless you work for NASA or get paid for it).beer
Jun 25, 2012 1:00 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,523 Posts
sirLarryIII: If by the universe you mean the empty space surrounding planets and stars,well it can't have an origin.Empty space is just nothingless.Nothingless can't have a begining as its nothing to begin with
Not quite so fast ----there are measurable distances in space. A geography of sorts, albeit endless. You can't have a measurable area if there is "nothing" there to measure. Kapiche?
Jun 25, 2012 1:24 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
rohaan: Not quite so fast ----there are measurable distances in space. A geography of sorts, albeit endless. You can't have a measurable area if there is "nothing" there to measure. Kapiche?

If my memory serves me , there is no empty space but plasma
Jun 25, 2012 1:40 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Leo_7
Leo_7Leo_7Baku, Azerbaijan87 Threads 16 Polls 2,514 Posts
When we see the greatness of the universe,I cannot think of any other explanation exept Supreme Creators grand design.But again,possibilities are endless.The only thing i m sure of that,there are some higher intelligence laughing at us above there.cheers
Jun 25, 2012 1:47 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
rohaan
rohaanrohaanCoos Bay, Oregon USA229 Threads 10,523 Posts
Leo_7: When we see the greatness of the universe,I cannot think of any other explanation exept Supreme Creators grand design.But again,possibilities are endless.The only thing i m sure of that,there are some higher intelligence laughing at us above there.
thumbs up thumbs up I agree. How are you? The last time we talked, the thread got pulled. Write again, you're one of my faves.
Jun 25, 2012 2:10 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
gleneagle
gleneaglegleneagleNew York City, New York USA36 Threads 3 Polls 1,147 Posts
Try reading "Grand Design" by Stephen Hawkings. It explains big bang multiverse, string theory, and disproves the need for a "creator"
Jul 2, 2012 4:43 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Gandalfs Lucky bag burst.
Apr 6, 2013 6:10 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
interesting... nothing which exploded.... now we need a new definition of "nothing" !!
Apr 6, 2013 6:41 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
GUZMAN1: In my opinion both options cannot even be called theories for most of his supporters. Just beliefs.

God is part of a religious belief, learned from chilhood.

The Big Bang is a belief supported by people who learned the existence of that scientific theory, but they do not understand or know how to explain. They support this idea as others support the idea of a creator.

Scientists know (but they not know all), the rest talks absolutely without knowledge.


I'm still wondering what I am doing here, let alone the other question of whats beyond forever.Even in imagination there are more questions or theories to put to the test.The theory of G O D seems a comfort zone of hope or a conduit keeping our imagination robust whilst gathering facts about our existence/being....
Apr 6, 2013 7:03 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
CuspofMagic: I'm still wondering what I am doing here, let alone the other question of whats beyond forever.Even in imagination there are more questions or theories to put to the test.The theory of G O D seems a comfort zone of hope or a conduit keeping our imagination robust whilst gathering facts about our existence/being....
All I know is I can't wait for the grape harvest so I can make another big batch of Cabernet Sauvignon. It's been a dry year so far so the sugar content should be reasonable high. I'm planning on about 20 gallons this year. Do you still make wine?
Apr 6, 2013 7:06 PM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
CuspofMagic
CuspofMagicCuspofMagiclight, South Australia Australia278 Threads 7,904 Posts
Hi Ooby; sounds good for your Cabernet..its been a dry year here also, so we like you will make some great robust reds ...Cheerswine
Apr 7, 2013 7:05 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
If light can turn into sound and sound into light and light into matter then why would anyone question the BIG BANG theory?
Apr 7, 2013 7:51 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
AgentAjax: If light can turn into sound and sound into light and light into matter then why would anyone question the BIG BANG theory?


I do not understand why light existed before the Big Bang. Where did the light came from?
Apr 7, 2013 8:21 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
GUZMAN1: I do not understand why light existed before the Big Bang. Where did the light came from?



Who said light existed b4 the big bang.

I suppose we were all created by a big bang, I've had a few big bangs inb my time.banana banana banana rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing devil devil cool
Apr 7, 2013 8:29 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
tomcatwarne: Who said light existed b4 the big bang.

I suppose we were all created by a big bang, I've had a few big bangs inb my time.


AgentAjax wrote: If light can turn into sound and sound into light and light into matter then why would anyone question the BIG BANG theory?

So, matter and the whole Big Bang should came from light, I guess... confused
Apr 7, 2013 8:44 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
GUZMAN1: AgentAjax wrote: If light can turn into sound and sound into light and light into matter then why would anyone question the BIG BANG theory?

So, matter and the whole Big Bang should came from light, I guess...


Apr 7, 2013 8:47 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
so in my opinion it is just another Sunday to contemplate our navels.....dunno
Apr 7, 2013 8:50 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
JeanKimberley: so in my opinion it is just another Sunday to contemplate our navels.....


Are you waiting for your big bang Jeangrin grin grin grin grin
Apr 7, 2013 8:52 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
tomcatwarne: Are you waiting for your big bang Jean


blushing Don't you know it Tomcat, I need to get to Scotland soon.
Apr 7, 2013 8:55 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
GUZMAN1: In my opinion both options cannot even be called theories for most of his supporters. Just beliefs.

God is part of a religious belief, learned from chilhood.

The Big Bang is a belief supported by people who learned the existence of that scientific theory, but they do not understand or know how to explain. They support this idea as others support the idea of a creator.

Scientists know (but they not know all), the rest talks absolutely without knowledge.


The fact that observation of the stars shows that the immediate universe is expanding from a common point supports a "Big bang" theory. Our immediate universe may very well have started that way 14 or so billion years ago. Science did not concoct this without facts. BUT, science is at a loss to explain what that big bang took place in, or what our universe is expanding in, or what there was before the big bang.
The religious explanations are beliefs, with no facts, that are pounded, intimidated, scared, into people from a very early age.
Apr 7, 2013 8:56 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
tomcatwarne: http://science.howstuffworks.com/dictionary/astronomy-terms/before-big-bang.htm


Was it an explanation?dunno confused shock shock
Apr 7, 2013 8:58 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
Leo_7: how about,God created billions of big bangs,and we r the result of only one of them.(my theory)


Only billions ?
Apr 7, 2013 8:59 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
GUZMAN1: Was it an explanation?



There are other videos on the same address.
Apr 7, 2013 9:01 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
funxsinia
funxsiniafunxsiniaButtholeville, Iowa USA9 Threads 2 Polls 328 Posts
yawn boooooooooooooooring yawn

almost like being stuck in the middle of a debate between preachers and science geeks....oh wait crap...i am....HELP ME!!!!!!!!PLEASE!!!!
Apr 7, 2013 9:03 AM CST ORIGIN OF UNIVERSE: GOD / BIG BANG
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
tomcatwarne: There are other videos on the same address.


But do you really understand these theories? I confess that I can't.

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