Should a man still have to pay child support if his partner became pregnant after sabotaging birth c (69)
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My opinion is that no matter the circumstances involved in the conception of a child the biological father is responsible for the well being of the child every bit as much as the mother. After all if you are man enough to make a baby...you need to be man enough to take care of it.
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jac379: Bump
ouch..wat happened??
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jac379: What would each man's conscience say in terms of the child being to blame?
^^ This. So very true. Admittedly, I tried it once when I was a teenager, thinking I was ready to be a dad, and I was afraid I was going to lose my girlfriend at the time. Fortunately, my attempt failed, she never found out, and we broke-up not too long afterward because she was seeing another guy on the sly.
If my stupid plan had succeeded, I most likely would have spent most of my life having to be friendly with that ex. Awkward, at best.
I'm pretty certain I dodged something there. ;)
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Yes, because none of this is the child's fault. If men were allowed to get off the hook by claiming the birth control was sabotaged, lots of men do that.
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Witchaywoman: Yes, because none of this is the child's fault. If men were allowed to get off the hook by claiming the birth control was sabotaged, lots of men do that.
so u consider marriage , a hook for the man?
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funxsinia: My opinion is that no matter the circumstances involved in the conception of a child the biological father is responsible for the well being of the child every bit as much as the mother. After all if you are man enough to make a baby...you need to be man enough to take care of it.
and the biological mother has no responsibilities?
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online today!Foxxie: I am just interested in hearing peoples thoughts. This is not a man vs woman poll as I know there are men who sabotage birth control as well.
I think this is a no brainer. If you don't want children you take precaution and pray like hell. It does not matter if you are female or male. Do you think I would be stupid enough to depend on someone else to take the caution if I was the one not wanting to get pregnant 
That takes the question out of who is deceitfull and who is not. Grow up and except responsiability for your own body. The poll ought to be who is stupid enough to give someone a loaded shot gun and have them walk behind them up a rocky mountain. 
Just my opinion if you are not mature enough to do what you need to do in life to take care of yourself then reap what you sow. Not a question of she said he said it is a question of brains 
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Happygolucky4u: I think this is a no brainer. If you don't want children you take precaution and pray like hell. It does not matter if you are female or male. Do you think I would be stupid enough to depend on someone else to take the caution if I was the one not wanting to get pregnant That takes the question out of who is deceitfull and who is not. Grow up and except responsiability for your own body. The poll ought to be who is stupid enough to give someone a loaded shot gun and have them walk behind them up a rocky mountain. Just my opinion if you are not mature enough to do what you need to do in life to take care of yourself then reap what you sow. Not a question of she said he said it is a question of brains
So are you stating an opinion or are you making a personal attack on me? What you have written could mean either depending on interpretation.
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Foxxie: I am just interested in hearing peoples thoughts. This is not a man vs woman poll as I know there are men who sabotage birth control as well.
If Mother has the right to kill the baby then the Father has the right to be a dead beat. Equality of the lowest common denominator, that's what Feminists unwittingly fought for and this is now what all Women will suffer.
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online today!Foxxie: So are you stating an opinion or are you making a personal attack on me? What you have written could mean either depending on interpretation.
I have no idea why you would take what I wrote personal I neither know you or your opinion. Call it my opinion if you like it is how I feel. It kind of seperates the adults from the children. It is just sad to see how some prefer to go through life being a victim by their own choice. But as my opinion has nothing to do with them and just mine. They are free to cry the blues till the cows come home. I do not feel sorry for them. Why would someone not take care of them own selfs and expect another to do it? ------ This poll is Archived ------
Foxxie: I am just interested in hearing peoples thoughts. This is not a man vs woman poll as I know there are men who sabotage birth control as well.
If it's proven sabotage, then maybe there's a case. I know that if I were a man not wanting children and a woman purposely did something like that, I wouldn't be a happy camper but I would still feel obliged to support the child if testing proves that it's mine. A man can always get a vasectomy if he's worried about it.
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Foxxie: I am just interested in hearing peoples thoughts. This is not a man vs woman poll as I know there are men who sabotage birth control as well.
No Man should ever be forced to pay ,only Women should be obligated to pay ...
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2intrigued: If it's proven sabotage, then maybe there's a case. I know that if I were a man not wanting children and a woman purposely did something like that, I wouldn't be a happy camper but I would still feel obliged to support the child if testing proves that it's mine. A man can always get a vasectomy if he's worried about it.
I agree - nothing wrong with requesting paternity to be tested - that's not always foolproof but another good tool. I don;t think sabotage is something that happens often either. Most likely the couple gets careless about the birth control and now the guy is wanting out of things - in a case like that I say NO. You have to share in support, but so does the mom. AND both families as far as parents (if the couple is very young) In fact the father should also remain in the vicinity to gt to know his "offspring" and share in the care
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I feel that if a guy doesn't want to be a father then he should keep it in his pants or at least wear protection
Other-wise buck up and be a man and care and suport the child
Other-wise buck up and be a man and care and suport the child
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Wineman42: I feel that if a guy doesn't want to be a father then he should keep it in his pants or at least wear protection
Other-wise buck up and be a man and care and suport the child
Other-wise buck up and be a man and care and suport the child
pretty much
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Witchaywoman: Yes, because none of this is the child's fault. If men were allowed to get off the hook by claiming the birth control was sabotaged, lots of men do that.
really? doesn't surprise me.... but unfortunate. The greatest thing is a child!! Can't imagine not wanting a child - not that being pregnant can't be a surprise! But even if a mom & dad are hesitant about a baby (as in it wasn't planned) they usually can't resist that smelly little critter when it's born. afterall some of the best things in life start as surprises!!!
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felixis99: really? doesn't surprise me.... but unfortunate. The greatest thing is a child!! Can't imagine not wanting a child - not that being pregnant can't be a surprise! But even if a mom & dad are hesitant about a baby (as in it wasn't planned) they usually can't resist that smelly little critter when it's born. afterall some of the best things in life start as surprises!!!
Unfortunately increasing numbers of young women are getting deliberately pregnant, and relying on the state to keep them. Sometimes they don't even know who the father is and don't care. So they get a free ride, accommodation, money and all the trimmings. I have heard the comment "we don't need a man, we can have everything and have it paid for by the state."
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tomcatwarne: Unfortunately increasing numbers of young women are getting deliberately pregnant, and relying on the state to keep them. Sometimes they don't even know who the father is and don't care. So they get a free ride, accommodation, money and all the trimmings. I have heard the comment "we don't need a man, we can have everything and have it paid for by the state."
I blame part of that on society.
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2intrigued: I blame part of that on society.
The only blame on society is to provide a safety net. The full responsibility for taking advantage of this goes on the irresponsible women who will take state benefit rather than provide for the child themselves. This comes down to irresponsible pregnancy in an age when contraception is readily available.
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tomcatwarne: The only blame on society is to provide a safety net. The full responsibility for taking advantage of this goes on the irresponsible women who will take state benefit rather than provide for the child themselves. This comes down to irresponsible pregnancy in an age when contraception is readily available.
Again, society plays a large part in this by means of allowing it. If the safety net weren't so readily available and easy to get, people wouldn't be able to take advantage. It also doesn't help that these people have next to nil moral values.
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2intrigued: Again, society plays a large part in this by means of allowing it. If the safety net weren't so readily available and easy to get, people wouldn't be able to take advantage. It also doesn't help that these people have next to nil moral values.
well I may agree with some of what you say, but it does not alter the fact that these women are on a free ride at the expense of the rest of us. wheras I would be the first to help a genuine case, and there are some, the fathers get away scot free and let the state ie us, pay for the upbringing of their children.
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tomcatwarne: well I may agree with some of what you say, but it does not alter the fact that these women are on a free ride at the expense of the rest of us. wheras I would be the first to help a genuine case, and there are some, the fathers get away scot free and let the state ie us, pay for the upbringing of their children.
Of course they're on a free ride because the government allows it. There are holes in the system and as long as there is, it will be taken advantage of like any other hand out the government provides. It's the nature of the beast. I agree that it's not right that we end up footing the bill but we do because the system is flawed and we as taxpayers do nothing about it but complain about it amongst ourselves. I bet the majority of the abusers of the system have been taught how to milk it for generations.
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2intrigued: Of course they're on a free ride because the government allows it. There are holes in the system and as long as there is, it will be taken advantage of like any other hand out the government provides. It's the nature of the beast. I agree that it's not right that we end up footing the bill but we do because the system is flawed and we as taxpayers do nothing about it but complain about it amongst ourselves. I bet the majority of the abusers of the system have been taught how to milk it for generations.
I rest my case, I couldn't have put it better myself
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tomcatwarne: I rest my case, I couldn't have put it better myself
Well, we haven't solved the problem but it's clearly identified...thank you
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sabotaged or not..the man should pay his share of financial support for the child, although if the woman is that deceitful..it might be an idea for that man to get a dna test or paternity test i think its called..before he pays any money
plenty of guys out there paying child support for kids that are not theirs...and they dont know it!
plenty of guys out there paying child support for kids that are not theirs...and they dont know it!
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I would like to add that not paying child support hurts the child more than the woman. Is it worth your flesh and blood going cold and hungry to "get back" at the woman for getting pregnant, when you're equally responsible for the pregnancy?
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My last ex and I have a very unique approach. She absolutely refused to ask for or accept any child support. And, with the income I have, I couldn't afford it anyway. Her lawyer had it set at $389 just to satisfy the judge, even though she did not want child support. So the lawyer said we could do anything we wanted, no matter what the divorce decree said, which is exactly what we did. It works out great for both of us. And anyone who thinks I'm a deadbeat dad is so far off the mark, because it isn't remotely true. I deliberately left out some details for privacy reasons, which I refuse to discuss in public.
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Is this a moral issue or an emotional one???????? If someone wants to deceive their partner....there is a BIG problem to start.
But.....the question is...........whether or not the man should pay if either party sabotage the birth control. The obvious point is........why should the child suffer????????????? That child deserves the best life that BOTH parents can give. That depends on the circumstances of the parents...but it still falls down to both of them.
But.....the question is...........whether or not the man should pay if either party sabotage the birth control. The obvious point is........why should the child suffer????????????? That child deserves the best life that BOTH parents can give. That depends on the circumstances of the parents...but it still falls down to both of them.
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