Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked? (54)

Sep 8, 2013 8:16 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
chris27292729: Enlighten me please!!! Was FOR or AGAINST the "just war"????On receiving the Nobel Peace Prize,advocating war is likely impossible.-


You will have to enlighten yourself Chris:

Obama Nobel Peace Prize Speech: FULL TEXT


"A Just and Lasting Peace,"

......The concept of a "just war" emerged, suggesting that war is justified only when it meets certain preconditions: if it is waged as a last resort or in self-defense; if the forced used is proportional, and if, whenever possible, civilians are spared from violence.......

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Sep 8, 2013 8:19 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Bogart_1960: yes, i believe he should decline the Nobel Peace Prize himself...


I would much prefer he does start not more wars first.




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Sep 8, 2013 8:20 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
DaytonaDude
DaytonaDudeDaytonaDudeSouth Daytona, Florida USA33 Threads 3 Polls 2,403 Posts
lifeisadream: I am not against Obama being the President of USA what I do question is Obama's decisions on Syria as a Nobel Peace Prize awarded.

Anyone with 2 connected neurons could see that.


Are you saying my neurons are disconnected? help
Sep 8, 2013 8:21 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
lifeisadream: I would much prefer he does start not more wars first.


thats just a wish... he "has" to... unfortunately. wine
Sep 8, 2013 8:26 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
DaytonaDude: Are you saying my neurons are disconnected?



Any one with 2 connected neurons could figure that out!



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Feb 10, 2017 6:27 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
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Feb 10, 2017 6:49 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Oh, wow, DaytonaDude. Was a funny dude. sad flower
Feb 10, 2017 7:44 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
lifeisadream: popcorn
I believe, after seeing how such a prize becoming so degraded of value and merit, having been awarded to an unbefitting laureate, that the Norwegian Storting be more careful in selecting the Norwegian Nobel Committee.

Obama had just taken 1st term in office as POTUS when receiving and accepting such an award. This does not bode well with what the award stands for...

"Alfred Nobel. According to Nobel's will, the Peace Prize shall be awarded to the person who in the preceding year "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses"." ~Wiki

Obama should have declined the award to begin with, since he had done nothing to have earned it. It would have been the more honorable and respected thing to do.

But as it stands, shame on the Norwegian Nobel Committee for offering the prize, and shame on Obama for accepting it. scold
Feb 10, 2017 7:54 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
Maybe he was rewarded for his efforts before he got into the hotseat conversing


He was a strong, forward-thinking, community-minded person with wonderful intent...


Politics tends to undermine good intent.
Feb 10, 2017 7:55 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
galrads: Oh, wow, DaytonaDude. Was a funny dude.



Yep sad flower
Feb 10, 2017 8:11 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
serene56: Maybe he was rewarded for his efforts before he got into the hotseat


He was a strong, forward-thinking, community-minded person with wonderful intent...


Politics tends to undermine good intent.
But none of that coincides with; "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses"

Obama never did anything for other nations prior to taking office in the Whitehouse. He did nothing to reduce armies, since he was never a part of that governing body. And he did nothing for the "holding and promotion of peace congresses" since he was only a senator of the state of Illinois prior to becoming POTUS.
He represented a single state, not the nation. conversing
Feb 10, 2017 8:26 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
YouMeUs: But none of that coincides with; "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses"

Obama never did anything for other nations prior to taking office in the Whitehouse. He did nothing to reduce armies, since he was never a part of that governing body. And he did nothing for the "holding and promotion of peace congresses" since he was only a senator of the state of Illinois prior to becoming POTUS.
He represented a single state, not the nation.



Sorry You, I didn't peruse the checklist for Nobel Peace Prize eligibility prior to posting...


I thought he represented humanity .
Feb 10, 2017 8:45 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
serene56: Sorry You, I didn't peruse the checklist for Nobel Peace Prize eligibility prior to posting...


I thought he represented humanity .
Had he been awarded the prize a year or so into his term as POTUS he may have been more qualified for it. He did reduce the U.S. military, at least. Then it wouldn't have been as questionable. But he was issued the prize right after being sworn in during his first term, long before he had done anything to earn such a prize.
Feb 10, 2017 9:11 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
Anonymous2k17
Anonymous2k17Anonymous2k17Palmerston North, Manawatu-Wanganui New Zealand2 Posts
GUZMAN1: Do you know the names of other previous Peace Nobel prizes?

Not nice people, most of them!


Monsters wearing pretty faces hahahaha
Feb 10, 2017 9:26 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
YouMeUs: Had he been awarded the prize a year or so into his term as POTUS he may have been more qualified for it. He did reduce the U.S. military, at least. Then it wouldn't have been as questionable. But he was issued the prize right after being sworn in during his first term, long before he had done anything to earn such a prize.



I think yours is a political viewpoint, mine is one of an unbiased bystander.
Feb 10, 2017 9:54 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
serene56: I think yours is a political viewpoint, mine is one of an unbiased bystander.
True indeed. Considering the Noble Peace Prize is representable to anyone promoting peace, including political.
I have observed Obama's activities even before he went political and nowhere had I found where he represented any nation nor anywhere he had made any national stace in promoting peace, prior to receiving the prize..
In short, he was awarded a peace prize for no reason at all.

It's like awarding a star to a student for receiving a high score prior to them taking the exam. laugh
Feb 10, 2017 10:27 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
YouMeUs: True indeed. Considering the Noble Peace Prize is representable to anyone promoting peace, including political.
I have observed Obama's activities even before he went political and nowhere had I found where he represented any nation nor anywhere a he had made any national stace in promoting peace, prior to receiving the prize..
In short, he was awarded a peace prize for no reason at all.

It's like awarding a star to a student for receiving a high score prior to them taking the exam.



I liked that he took no national stance .. he may be American but for me he was Everyman and that's what many are looking for in a First World leader.
Feb 10, 2017 11:21 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
serene56: I liked that he took no national stance .. he may be American but for me he was Everyman and that's what many are looking for in a First World leader.
I'm not blaming Obama other than for accepting the award. I blame the committee that presented the award to Obama.
It was a rushed decision based on mere political campaign speeches Obama made, it was based on political promises and nothing more.

Since when has it become acceptable for people to receive such awards based on promises? confused

You can even read in wiki on what transpired over this prize.



"Jagland said the committee was influenced by a speech Obama gave about Islam in Cairo"

"The New York Times reported that Jagland shrugged off the question of whether "the committee feared being labeled naïve for accepting a young politician's promises at face value", stating that "no one could deny that 'the international climate' had suddenly improved, and that Mr. Obama was the main reason...'We want to embrace the message that he stands for.'"

"Obama said he was "surprised" and "deeply humbled" by the award. He stated that he does not feel he deserved the award, and that he did not feel worthy of the company the award would place him in. In remarks given at the White House Rose Garden on the day of the announcement, Obama stated, "I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments but rather an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations.""

Well if that's all it takes to win the Nobel Peace prize, then I nominate you, Serene, for the next one to be issued due to your long-standing desire for wanting global peace. wink grin
Feb 11, 2017 12:05 AM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
And he was nominated?uh oh
Feb 11, 2017 2:13 AM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
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Feb 11, 2017 4:28 AM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
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Feb 11, 2017 1:02 PM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
Kattte
KattteKattteVancouver, British Columbia Canada759 Posts
All so called 'leaders' of all countries and certainly all political leaders everywhere should be excluded from anything even remotely called 'a Peace Prize.' They always bring violence, destruction and death to someone be it by bombs dropped or by ordering an individual's death by telephone to those that are happy to carry it out by whatever they call it, especially this bloodthirsty excuse labeled as "patriotism" or "in the name of national security"... Since I had been a journalist, millions upon millions have died by usually those that received this so called Nobel Peace Prize". It really should have been called Nobel's Death Prize. The amount of dead by all the , plagues, diseases and natural disasters since the late 60's pale in comparison to those that vie for this 'death prize. Call it by its true name and/ or just denounce it as just another 'establishment' fraud; perhaps even round-up the living recipients and stone them to death by the peoples they have tried to eradicate. It only goes to those that in some form practice genocide.
Feb 12, 2017 12:06 AM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
lifeisadream: Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
Can it be done?

Should Obama decline the Nobel Peace Prize himself?




Would he accept?
Feb 12, 2017 10:15 AM CST Should Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize be revoked?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
sophiasummer: Would he accept?


sorry Sophi I do not understand your comment would you care to extend on it?


"Awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to US President Barack Obama in 2009 failed to achieve what the committee hoped it would, its (Nobel) ex-secretary has said.



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