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Sep 8, 2013 3:59 PM CSTLegalize Drugs

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Sep 8, 2013 4:07 PM CST Legalize Drugs
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
MrRick77: Legalize Drugs



Which drugs?
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Sep 8, 2013 4:43 PM CST Legalize Drugs
Anything that is Illegal at the moment.
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Sep 8, 2013 4:49 PM CST Legalize Drugs
new_2_edm
new_2_edmnew_2_edmEdmonton, Alberta Canada1 Threads 9 Posts
Why? Are you allergic to Alcohol?
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Sep 8, 2013 4:49 PM CST Legalize Drugs
Glatlol
GlatlolGlatlolDublin, Ireland2 Threads 5,358 Posts
MrRick77: Anything that is Illegal at the moment.



Still to vague, laws differ from Country to Country.
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Sep 8, 2013 5:21 PM CST Legalize Drugs
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
new_2_edm: Why? Are you allergic to Alcohol?


If he is, a drug maintenance program would not be a good thing,, grin
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Sep 8, 2013 5:32 PM CST Legalize Drugs
funxsinia
funxsiniafunxsiniaButtholeville, Iowa USA9 Threads 2 Polls 328 Posts
Marijuana possibly...and to those who consume any kind of alcohol and whine that marijuana is a gateway drug...PLEASE!!!! ... stop being such a hypocrite.

But honestly that and possibly mushrooms would be as far as I would go.

If you mean heroin...methamphetamines...LSD...ecstacy...etc...then no thumbs down

even cocaine whis is essentially organic I think is too addictive
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Sep 8, 2013 5:36 PM CST Legalize Drugs
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
MrRick77: Legalize Drugs



Drugs being legalized will get more people to try them ..... therefore more people will try, and more will get addicted... i dont see any advantage of that... assuming the generalization of all drugs of your post- then let's just keep them illegal.
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Sep 8, 2013 5:59 PM CST Legalize Drugs
LadyDiz
LadyDizLadyDizJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa1,320 Posts
Bogart_1960: Drugs being legalized will get more people to try them ..... therefore more people will try, and more will get addicted... i dont see any advantage of that... assuming the generalization of all drugs of your post- then let's just keep them illegal.


Generally, the argument about legalising drugs is not about the effect it will have on the users but rather on the drug cartels and criminal element that deal and push the drugs. Billions are spent on arresting and prosecuting suppliers/dealers not only for the drug issue but also for crimes that accompany the drug scene.

Many countries have tried to deal with users by not prosecuting them and providing safe houses that supply needles and a safe place to shoot up. I'm not sure that these measures have decreased the number of users, although they may have had an effect on the spread of diseases.

Most drugs are readily and easily available where ever you go, and they are becoming cheaper to purchase. And where addicts don't have the money, they find alternatives e.g. glue sniffing, cough syrups and so forth. I'm not sure legalising drugs will either encourage or discourage drug use....
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Sep 8, 2013 6:12 PM CST Legalize Drugs
Bogart_1960
Bogart_1960Bogart_1960Ask me !, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France36 Threads 1 Polls 10,012 Posts
LadyDiz: Generally, the argument about legalising drugs is not about the effect it will have on the users but rather on the drug cartels and criminal element that deal and push the drugs. Billions are spent on arresting and prosecuting suppliers/dealers not only for the drug issue but also for crimes that accompany the drug scene.

Many countries have tried to deal with users by not prosecuting them and providing safe houses that supply needles and a safe place to shoot up. I'm not sure that these measures have decreased the number of users, although they may have had an effect on the spread of diseases.

Most drugs are readily and easily available where ever you go, and they are becoming cheaper to purchase. And where addicts don't have the money, they find alternatives e.g. glue sniffing, cough syrups and so forth. I'm not sure legalising drugs will either encourage or discourage drug use....


yes true Lady (how are you?).... you have a valid point here...I believe it gets to personal beliefs where we can accept them or not. I dont have any problem with legalizing some type of "drugs" - i.e. cannabis, but i am not sure other type of hard drugs (heroine, cocaine) should be legal.

I believe in helping those who are addicts - how portugal is dealing now -it is important to help people with a problem (drug addiction) instead of punishing them. it does has benefits for the society, plus it does not increase usage.... thats so far the results...

Decriminalization and legalization are not the same thing.... thats my view.
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Sep 8, 2013 6:30 PM CST Legalize Drugs
LadyDiz
LadyDizLadyDizJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa1,320 Posts
Bogart_1960: yes true Lady (how are you?).... you have a valid point here...I believe it gets to personal beliefs where we can accept them or not. I dont have any problem with legalizing some type of "drugs" - i.e. cannabis, but i am not sure other type of hard drugs (heroine, cocaine) should be legal.

I believe in helping those who are addicts - how portugal is dealing now -it is important to help people with a problem (drug addiction) instead of punishing them. it does has benefits for the society, plus it does not increase usage.... thats so far the results...

Decriminalization and legalization are not the same thing.... thats my view.


Hi Bogart! wave I'm great, thanks, hope you are, too.
Yes I agree, they are two different concepts with different goals in mind. Decriminalisation is probably the most useful to society and the users themselves. Cannabis is legal in a couple of countries already (Netherlands and Swaziland) and of course, some countries allow it for medicinal use.
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Sep 8, 2013 6:33 PM CST Legalize Drugs
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
I think the emphasis should be more on, why so many people want to take so many drugs...legal or not.

dunno
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Sep 9, 2013 1:04 AM CST Legalize Drugs
Harleyquinn
HarleyquinnHarleyquinnBetwixt the stix, Illinois USA10 Threads 1,707 Posts
It ALWAYS seems so easy to neglect the fact that the 2 most addictive,
destructive drugs are already legal, (ie:alcohol & nicotine) nicotine being more addictive than cocaine & heroin!confused dunno professor


But hey the pursuit of money can be equally destructive as many of these other drugs!wink grin




SHANTIinnocent
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Sep 9, 2013 2:39 AM CST Legalize Drugs
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
We don't need the drugs Lords drugs,do we????
MrRick77: Legalize Drugs
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Sep 9, 2013 2:51 AM CST Legalize Drugs
chris27292729: It is your business indirectly.- You pay taxes to the state, to tackle the problem.
..drugs are used to treat illness..only......to legalize it would be wrong.............very wrong.
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Sep 9, 2013 3:45 AM CST Legalize Drugs
chris27292729
chris27292729chris27292729IOS island, South Aegean Greece93 Threads 15,811 Posts
truheart1941: ..drugs are used to treat illness..only......to legalize it would be wrong.............very wrong.
thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up
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Sep 9, 2013 3:53 AM CST Legalize Drugs
Glitch101
Glitch101Glitch101London, Greater London, England UK21 Threads 1,079 Posts
Any drug used in the medical profession is naturally legalised and not in question.

The OP is referring to illegal narcotics ,of which some are unfortunately available through the internet ,and have caused deaths among young people who have no concept of what they are actually taking.sigh
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Sep 9, 2013 4:23 AM CST Legalize Drugs
GUZMAN1
GUZMAN1GUZMAN1Barcelona, Catalonia Spain65 Threads 44 Polls 5,101 Posts
Glitch101: Any drug used in the medical profession is naturally legalised and not in question.

The OP is referring to illegal narcotics ,of which some are unfortunately available through the internet ,and have caused deaths among young people who have no concept of what they are actually taking.


Some narcotics are legally prescribed, but its use is illegal out of the medical treatments.

Other substances are always illegal, for a good reason.

An example of that duality is phencyclidine (PCP, angel dust, ketamine). It's legal for veterinary anesthesic, but in humans is an hallucinogen which causes serious brain damages. I hope that kind of chemical substances never be legalised for humans.

Not all the drugs are the same.
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Sep 9, 2013 4:25 AM CST Legalize Drugs
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
MrRick77: Legalize Drugs


A UN report said "the global drug trade generated an estimated US$321.6 billion in 2003.

Im sure that the people who are in control of drugs ,and Im not talking here about the cartels and small time dealers,will just give up on such income and legalize it
A lot of studies have been made about the usefulness of mary jane and products of it so the pharmaco mobster would just love to see a lost of their income
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Sep 9, 2013 5:08 AM CST Legalize Drugs
Dedovix
DedovixDedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia12 Threads 1 Polls 5,492 Posts
another fine peace of information ;


Due to its illicit nature, statistics about profits from the drug trade are largely unknown. In its 1997 World Drugs Report the UNODC estimated the value of the market at US$400 billion, ranking drugs alongside arms and oil amongst the world's largest traded goods. An online report published by the UK Home Office in 2007 estimated the illicit drug market in the UK at £4–6.6 billion a year

In December 2009, the Executive Director of the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, Antonio Maria Costa, claimed that illegal drug money saved the banking industry from collapse.
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Sep 9, 2013 5:10 AM CST Legalize Drugs
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
MrRick77: Legalize Drugs


Too many nanny states in this world telling adults what drugs they can take like alcohol, tobacco and in some countries marijuana and what drugs we can't take like Cocaine, E, Meth, Heroin and so on.

Fact is adults will take whatever drugs they want. They always have. People will always be stupid enough to do dangerous drugs so we should legalise and regulate them to make them safer and cheaper. This cuts out the criminal middle men over night and brings in a revenue stream to set up state rehabs for those that want to quit.

Man has done drugs since we were living in caves. We always have and always will. It's time everyone woke up to that fact.
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Sep 10, 2013 2:19 AM CST Legalize Drugs
Checkers101
Checkers101Checkers101terre haute, Florida USA48 Threads 46 Polls 106 Posts
truheart1941: ..drugs are used to treat illness..only......to legalize it would be wrong.............very wrong.


It is commonly known that the people who want drugs to be illegal the most are usually the ones selling them. So what drugs are you selling?

As to the tax issue, I am tired of my taxes being spent on this. People who do drugs are going to do them whether they are legal, or not so I say let them kill themselves and reduce their drain on society.

If you read my previous post and dont take one part out of context you have to admit that I am right
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Sep 10, 2013 2:26 AM CST Legalize Drugs
Checkers101
Checkers101Checkers101terre haute, Florida USA48 Threads 46 Polls 106 Posts
LadyDiz: Generally, the argument about legalising drugs is not about the effect it will have on the users but rather on the drug cartels and criminal element that deal and push the drugs. Billions are spent on arresting and prosecuting suppliers/dealers not only for the drug issue but also for crimes that accompany the drug scene.

Many countries have tried to deal with users by not prosecuting them and providing safe houses that supply needles and a safe place to shoot up. I'm not sure that these measures have decreased the number of users, although they may have had an effect on the spread of diseases.

Most drugs are readily and easily available where ever you go, and they are becoming cheaper to purchase. And where addicts don't have the money, they find alternatives e.g. glue sniffing, cough syrups and so forth. I'm not sure legalising drugs will either encourage or discourage drug use....


I agree, the problem is the crime associated with the drugs not the drugs. Make then legal and cheap and you solve the crime problem attached to them. Then you can address the health issues on a much more effective level.
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Sep 10, 2013 2:36 AM CST Legalize Drugs
rebel2
rebel2rebel2Alicante, Valencia Spain8 Threads 6,354 Posts
Kicking the door down of a public toilet only to find a 17yr old girl dead,having injected through the eyeball with a horse injection.She grew up with perants who were addicts.
37yr old family man hacked his nieghbours to death with a garden spade,having taken crack cocaine.
25yr old women,and her new born baby killed head on by driver on crack cocaine.He thought he was a racing driver.
73yr homeless man set alight by youths that were high.
Yes,lets legalise drugs,its easier.Protecting the public is not important.
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Sep 10, 2013 3:00 AM CST Legalize Drugs
Harleyquinn
HarleyquinnHarleyquinnBetwixt the stix, Illinois USA10 Threads 1,707 Posts
rebel2: Kicking the door down of a public toilet only to find a 17yr old girl dead,having injected through the eyeball with a horse injection.She grew up with perants who were addicts.
37yr old family man hacked his nieghbours to death with a garden spade,having taken crack cocaine.
25yr old women,and her new born baby killed head on by driver on crack cocaine.He thought he was a racing driver.
73yr homeless man set alight by youths that were high.
Yes,lets legalise drugs,its easier.Protecting the public is not important.


Yes one can cherry pick incidents & stats all day long.
What about the thousands killed by second hand tobacco smoke via cancer? Or the tens of thousands killed each year by drunk drivers or alcohol induced domestic violence?

I'm not saying there is an answer or answers that are clear cut & easy
to define. But think of the billions of dollars that are involved/wasted(no pun intended, well, maybe) in the trade of illicit drugs on both sides, the suppliers & the prohibitors, on the take, or just being sure to get the funding to fight a war that will never be won.
Prohibition didn't work with alcohol, does it seem to be working with other drugs?handshake


Surely there must be some middle ground solution that works out best for the whole populations in general?

No?confused dunno



SHANTIwine
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Sep 10, 2013 3:07 AM CST Legalize Drugs
Checkers101
Checkers101Checkers101terre haute, Florida USA48 Threads 46 Polls 106 Posts
rebel2: Kicking the door down of a public toilet only to find a 17yr old girl dead,having injected through the eyeball with a horse injection.She grew up with perants who were addicts.
37yr old family man hacked his nieghbours to death with a garden spade,having taken crack cocaine.
25yr old women,and her new born baby killed head on by driver on crack cocaine.He thought he was a racing driver.
73yr homeless man set alight by youths that were high.
Yes,lets legalise drugs,its easier.Protecting the public is not important.


I would be interested to see the sources of these stories, they sound like something out of the 60s movie "Refer Madness"

Did you ever stop to think that maybe these people in these stories (assuming they are true) were psychotic and the taking of drugs was a symptom rather than a cause?

So I ask again, what drug are you selling that you want to keep illegal?

But I digress, how about we just look at the prohibition on alcohol and how well that worked out. Illegal alcohol brought us Al Capone and the drug war brought us Pablo E and all the other drug cartels.
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Sep 10, 2013 3:12 AM CST Legalize Drugs
Checkers101
Checkers101Checkers101terre haute, Florida USA48 Threads 46 Polls 106 Posts
rebel2: Kicking the door down of a public toilet only to find a 17yr old girl dead,having injected through the eyeball with a horse injection.She grew up with perants who were addicts.
37yr old family man hacked his nieghbours to death with a garden spade,having taken crack cocaine.
25yr old women,and her new born baby killed head on by driver on crack cocaine.He thought he was a racing driver.
73yr homeless man set alight by youths that were high.
Yes,lets legalise drugs,its easier.Protecting the public is not important.


okay lets assume these stories ARE true, did the illegality of drugs stop them from happening? NO!!!! If they happened drugs being legal or no not didnt stop them did they?
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Sep 10, 2013 3:22 AM CST Legalize Drugs
Checkers101: okay lets assume these stories ARE true, did the illegality of drugs stop them from happening? NO!!!! If they happened drugs being legal or no not didnt stop them did they?
hi Checkers.......what Reb said is just plain common sence.....how can anyone argue with that....in all fairness.making drugs legal is utter madness.jmo.
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Sep 10, 2013 3:28 AM CST Legalize Drugs
Crighton
CrightonCrightonwellington, Wellington New Zealand1 Threads 19 Posts
No doubt about the fact that stupidly abusing ANY drugs can have serious consequences for all involved. Misery, forced into crime, insanity, death are all bloody dire....
However, with PROPER, unbiased education on the matter, and stopping this ridiculous demonisation of inert substances, Im pretty sure most people would not even be interested to start with. Seeing as there are other, sanctioned profiteering motives involved in the keeping them illegal..I don't think its so much about what's good or bad for the public anymore. Just take responsibility - and be INFORMED. There IS danger there.
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Sep 10, 2013 3:41 AM CST Legalize Drugs
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
rebel2: Kicking the door down of a public toilet only to find a 17yr old girl dead,having injected through the eyeball with a horse injection.She grew up with perants who were addicts.
37yr old family man hacked his nieghbours to death with a garden spade,having taken crack cocaine.
25yr old women,and her new born baby killed head on by driver on crack cocaine.He thought he was a racing driver.
73yr homeless man set alight by youths that were high.
Yes,lets legalise drugs,its easier.Protecting the public is not important.


I could give you just as many horror stories as alcohol. And if they were legal she would not have to use the public toilet, or inject herself in the eye. The point of legalising them would be to regulate the industry, make the substances as safe as possible and make them cheap as to take crime out of the equation.
You are having the usual response that I expect from middle world.laugh
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Sep 10, 2013 3:46 AM CST Legalize Drugs
Checkers101
Checkers101Checkers101terre haute, Florida USA48 Threads 46 Polls 106 Posts
truheart1941: hi Checkers.......what Reb said is just plain common sence.....how can anyone argue with that....in all fairness.making drugs legal is utter madness.jmo.


Drugs need to be regulated just like alcohol, and you cant regulate something that is illegal. The madness is giving the cartels something to make money off of.

Before the il-legalization of alcohol anyone of any age could legally buy alcohol then we had prohibition the 21 amendment ended that and new laws about who could buy where and when they could buy were enacted.

REGULATION!!!!!!!!
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