Would you date a person who has Bipolar Disorder? (109)
CapNemo: I understand what you're saying!
Thank you for taking the time to discuss it with me.
Possible a different Book!
but after all it is only a relative.
And we all don't look the same as our Cousins, Right
but after all it is only a relative.
And we all don't look the same as our Cousins, Right
jac379: Since when?
I've heard of the rare psychosis Dissociative Identity Disorder being muddled up with the schizophrenias (meaning split with reality, also categorised as psychoses), but never Bipolar Disorder.
I've heard of the rare psychosis Dissociative Identity Disorder being muddled up with the schizophrenias (meaning split with reality, also categorised as psychoses), but never Bipolar Disorder.
Possible a different Book!
but after all it is only a relative.
And we all don't look the same as our Cousins, Right
MrCountingStars: One issue I will say I have is:
The question of it been Genetic?
Now I will say I have no knowledge to the medical research of the brain scans of patients of have been diagnosed.
Now with schizo scans of the brain have shown how the disease manifests over time and how parts of the brain show an increase in UV light as to an increase in thoughts etc. on certain parts of the brain
I am not aware of this technology been used for Bi-Polar and the outcome.
Could Bi-polar be a manifest of memories from childhood or a product of ones environment, or just a way of thought.
Genetic or not? Well it has been said that children of Bi-polar are more prone to it also, this could mean heraditary influences, but could this be a mere coincidence or a product of watching how their parents interact on a daily basis, hence the environment to which a person has been brought up.
To say it is Genetic is a big call.
My Ex is Bi-polar, 14 yrs of bliss and 7 yrs of scary Hell. He refused to take Meds. and eventually lost his job of 26 yrs. Dr's tell me to be watching for Bi-polar in my children. Genetic who knows. Nightmare of a ride YES!!!! He did not choose to act so crazy, it was beyond his control. JMOThe question of it been Genetic?
Now I will say I have no knowledge to the medical research of the brain scans of patients of have been diagnosed.
Now with schizo scans of the brain have shown how the disease manifests over time and how parts of the brain show an increase in UV light as to an increase in thoughts etc. on certain parts of the brain
I am not aware of this technology been used for Bi-Polar and the outcome.
Could Bi-polar be a manifest of memories from childhood or a product of ones environment, or just a way of thought.
Genetic or not? Well it has been said that children of Bi-polar are more prone to it also, this could mean heraditary influences, but could this be a mere coincidence or a product of watching how their parents interact on a daily basis, hence the environment to which a person has been brought up.
To say it is Genetic is a big call.
CapNemo: I've heard this before as well.
What have you heard?
That Bipolar Disorder is related to Dissociative Identity Disorder?
Or that the schizophrenias are?
jac379: What have you heard?
That Bipolar Disorder is related to Dissociative Identity Disorder?
Or that the schizophrenias are?
That Bipolar Disorder is related to Dissociative Identity Disorder?
Or that the schizophrenias are?
According to Doctor Michael Stone of Most Evil (google him) yes you are right. he is almost the founder of the above relation between schizo and dissociative identity disorder.
But Bi-polar is part of the family, they will always be cousins.
They are all mental Disorders/diseases
We all have a n Ugly cousin and a Good Looking cousin.
Similar Genes but different on the outside.
MrCountingStars: Possible a different Book!
but after all it is only a relative.
And we all don't look the same as our Cousins, Right
but after all it is only a relative.
And we all don't look the same as our Cousins, Right
Admittedly, I have a limited knowledge, but my understanding is that Dissociative Personality Disorder is very rare and comes under the category of the psychoses. It's characterised by fugues where the person has no, or little awareness of alternative identities.
The schizophrenias are a group of psychotic disorders, there are varying traits, but those traits don't include the fugues described above.
Bipolar Disorder comes under the category of the 'affective disorders', as do anxiety disorders and other depressive disorders amongst others.
Although there appears to be more of a link between the affective disorders and psychoses than previously thought, the issue of popular understanding probably comes from too literal interpretations of the names, or certain symptoms, fuelled by media projections.
So, just because someone with Bipolar Disorder may have changes in mood which appear as personality differences, it is not the same as the fugues exhibited in the very rare Dissociative Identity, or as it used to be called Multiple Personality, Disorder.
Fugees
Were they a band, Think Will-I-am was in that band!
Oh ya the Fuges, good band
Were they a band, Think Will-I-am was in that band!
Oh ya the Fuges, good band
jac379: Admittedly, I have a limited knowledge, but my understanding is that Dissociative Personality Disorder is very rare and comes under the category of the psychoses. It's characterised by fugues where the person has no, or little awareness of alternative identities.
The schizophrenias are a group of psychotic disorders, there are varying traits, but those traits don't include the fugues described above.
Bipolar Disorder comes under the category of the 'affective disorders', as do anxiety disorders and other depressive disorders amongst others.
Although there appears to be more of a link between the affective disorders and psychoses than previously thought, the issue of popular understanding probably comes from too literal interpretations of the names, or certain symptoms, fuelled by media projections.
So, just because someone with Bipolar Disorder may have changes in mood which appear as personality differences, it is not the same as the fugues exhibited in the very rare Dissociative Identity, or as it used to be called Multiple Personality, Disorder.
The schizophrenias are a group of psychotic disorders, there are varying traits, but those traits don't include the fugues described above.
Bipolar Disorder comes under the category of the 'affective disorders', as do anxiety disorders and other depressive disorders amongst others.
Although there appears to be more of a link between the affective disorders and psychoses than previously thought, the issue of popular understanding probably comes from too literal interpretations of the names, or certain symptoms, fuelled by media projections.
So, just because someone with Bipolar Disorder may have changes in mood which appear as personality differences, it is not the same as the fugues exhibited in the very rare Dissociative Identity, or as it used to be called Multiple Personality, Disorder.
But you know they are all under the same Category Mental Disorders/diseases.
Something wrong with their minds BIGTIME
jac379: Admittedly, I have a limited knowledge, but my understanding is that Dissociative Personality Disorder is very rare and comes under the category of the psychoses. It's characterised by fugues where the person has no, or little awareness of alternative identities.
The schizophrenias are a group of psychotic disorders, there are varying traits, but those traits don't include the fugues described above.
Bipolar Disorder comes under the category of the 'affective disorders', as do anxiety disorders and other depressive disorders amongst others.
Although there appears to be more of a link between the affective disorders and psychoses than previously thought, the issue of popular understanding probably comes from too literal interpretations of the names, or certain symptoms, fuelled by media projections.
So, just because someone with Bipolar Disorder may have changes in mood which appear as personality differences, it is not the same as the fugues exhibited in the very rare Dissociative Identity, or as it used to be called Multiple Personality, Disorder.
The schizophrenias are a group of psychotic disorders, there are varying traits, but those traits don't include the fugues described above.
Bipolar Disorder comes under the category of the 'affective disorders', as do anxiety disorders and other depressive disorders amongst others.
Although there appears to be more of a link between the affective disorders and psychoses than previously thought, the issue of popular understanding probably comes from too literal interpretations of the names, or certain symptoms, fuelled by media projections.
So, just because someone with Bipolar Disorder may have changes in mood which appear as personality differences, it is not the same as the fugues exhibited in the very rare Dissociative Identity, or as it used to be called Multiple Personality, Disorder.
Most admirable of your knowledge of behavior disorders I wonder
You have a BA degree which is more than I have on my plate.
An axe to grind and many other unique qualities. An Artist hmmmm
yet you should be a therapist or social worker. They speak with objective authority like unhealed healers.
Ziusudra: Most admirable of your knowledge of behavior disorders I wonder
You have a BA degree which is more than I have on my plate.
An axe to grind and many other unique qualities. An Artist hmmmm
yet you should be a therapist or social worker. They speak with objective authority like unhealed healers.
You have a BA degree which is more than I have on my plate.
An axe to grind and many other unique qualities. An Artist hmmmm
yet you should be a therapist or social worker. They speak with objective authority like unhealed healers.
I have never claimed to be fully self-actualised, nor fully congruent, to use a bit of babble.
Neither have I claimed to have only ever done one thing in my life.
I have a BSc degree.
KIBALUV: I read recently where a woman told guys after several dates that she was Bipolar & they all dumped her. This poll is to find out what the general attitude is of how people feel about dating someone with a GENETIC birth defect of mental illness.
NO thanks. I did that when I was 21. Never again. Almost destroyed me.
jac379: Since when?
I've heard of the rare psychosis Dissociative Identity Disorder being muddled up with the schizophrenias (meaning split with reality, also categorised as psychoses), but never Bipolar Disorder.
I've heard of the rare psychosis Dissociative Identity Disorder being muddled up with the schizophrenias (meaning split with reality, also categorised as psychoses), but never Bipolar Disorder.
Interesting discussion, to add my two cents:
Aren't people suffering from the mania accompanied with the highs of bi-polar disease not in touch with reality? And when they are in the depths of depression that is associated with the lows, also not in touch with reality?
MrCountingStars: I had no ownership of this woman, so "your Woman" has no referance value.
Yes I can safely agree that every Clinical Evaluation or human behaviourist would 100% agree that A person with Bi-Polar is more prone to be involved in multiple partner relationships.
Listen every article ever written on the subject proclaims that she was not relationship material in the first place.
Yes I can safely agree that every Clinical Evaluation or human behaviourist would 100% agree that A person with Bi-Polar is more prone to be involved in multiple partner relationships.
Listen every article ever written on the subject proclaims that she was not relationship material in the first place.
I was in a relationship with a bi-polar man and one of my closest friends is bi-polar. Neither one of them are/were involved in multiple partner relationships. In fact, my former boyfriend approached dating from the beginning as one on one - not meeting others so that we could get to know one another without spreading our time and attention with others.
KIBALUV: I read recently where a woman told guys after several dates that she was Bipolar & they all dumped her. This poll is to find out what the general attitude is of how people feel about dating someone with a GENETIC birth defect of mental illness.
I dated and fell in love with a bipolar woman once. It drove me into therapy. The therapist told me to "turn around and run".
I'll never knowingly do that again.
I was married with one and I will never want to go into that hell again. Meds dont help if the person feels they are all right and skip taking the meds when they have the maniac perios ongoing.
Being a psych nurse myself Id say that only one suitable for such disorder is another similar.
no, no, never and no 
Being a psych nurse myself Id say that only one suitable for such disorder is another similar.
no, no, never and no 
In bipolar disorder, people experience abnormally elevated (manic or hypomanic) mood states which interfere with the functions of ordinary life. Many people with bipolar disorder also experience periods of depressed mood, but this is not universal. There is no simple physiological test to confirm the disorder. Diagnosing bipolar disorder is often difficult, even for mental health professionals. In particular, it can be difficult to distinguish depression caused by bipolar disorder from pure unipolar depression.
The earlier the age of onset, the more likely the first few episodes are to be depressive. Because a bipolar diagnosis requires a manic or hypomanic episode, many patients are initially diagnosed and treated as having major depression.WIKI
so,now we Lay-People achieve the Feat of unerring Diagnostic Skill,which is even next to impossible to Mental Health Professional!
The earlier the age of onset, the more likely the first few episodes are to be depressive. Because a bipolar diagnosis requires a manic or hypomanic episode, many patients are initially diagnosed and treated as having major depression.WIKI
so,now we Lay-People achieve the Feat of unerring Diagnostic Skill,which is even next to impossible to Mental Health Professional!
CasualCarol: Interesting discussion, to add my two cents:
Aren't people suffering from the mania accompanied with the highs of bi-polar disease not in touch with reality? And when they are in the depths of depression that is associated with the lows, also not in touch with reality?
Aren't people suffering from the mania accompanied with the highs of bi-polar disease not in touch with reality? And when they are in the depths of depression that is associated with the lows, also not in touch with reality?
It does depend upon what you mean by reality, so a very good question.
There's the reality, or unreality where it's believed that way more can be achieved in a day than is humanly possible. We all perhaps do this to a certain extent, but maybe during a manic phase unrealistic expectations are greater: "I'm going to walk to London today and see a show!" Maybe five days walk is more realistic, but it's not actually impossible to walk to London.
Someone who is the depth of depression may think, or feel that their situation is hopeless and yet the reality might be that there are things they can do, or achieve; that there is hope of life becoming more tolerable, or fully functioning, or even pleasant.
Then there's the reality, or unreality of seeing pink elephants. If I see pink elephants then one might argue that's part of my reality and who is anyone else to say I can't see them?
Reality can be a cultural phenomenon. In some societies having visions was revered as a useful and special talent which increased the well-being of the group. The revered person might have a special place in the society, like a holy person. Others might care for them practically, feed them and do their chores, in exchange for their valuable input. In modern Western society seeing visions is commonly interpreted as there being something wrong with the person, the person as lacking in proper function, the person being a burden to care for and that this is detrimental to them and society.
The distinction of 'reality' between the psychoses and the affective disorders as I understand it, is to do with that hallucinatory element, of experiencing things that aren't concrete according to the consensus. It's viewed as different from interpreting events from an alternative point of reference, however accurate, or inaccurate that interpretation might be.
MssSunshine: I was married with one and I will never want to go into that hell again. Meds dont help if the person feels they are all right and skip taking the meds when they have the maniac perios ongoing.
Being a psych nurse myself Id say that only one suitable for such disorder is another similar.
no, no, never and no
Being a psych nurse myself Id say that only one suitable for such disorder is another similar.
no, no, never and no
I hear you. Me neither, I will never, never, never date someone who is bi-polar. I know people who are bi-polar. I will not be able to handle the bizarre behaviour or the ups and downs. This one woman who is bi-polar used to ran in the street totally naked and her husband will ran after her to catch her, clothe her and take her back to their home. Now she's been placed in a nursing home. I guess there are people with varying degrees of the disease. I know someone with the disease and claims to be a police officer. I think that is dangerous since he has to carry a gun.
i would rather date a woman who has suffered and has beaten it, the most impressive personalities have endured many scars.
pedro27: i would rather date a woman who has suffered and has beaten it, the most impressive personalities have endured many scars.
Yeah, I can't imagine being able to relate to someone on an intimate level who's never had any difficulties in life.
I can't say I know enough about it to make an informed decision at this point, save to say, I agree with the remarks made about the terminology used...
MrCountingStars: One issue I will say I have is:
The question of it been Genetic?
Now I will say I have no knowledge to the medical research of the brain scans of patients of have been diagnosed.
Now with schizo scans of the brain have shown how the disease manifests over time and how parts of the brain show an increase in UV light as to an increase in thoughts etc. on certain parts of the brain
I am not aware of this technology been used for Bi-Polar and the outcome.
Could Bi-polar be a manifest of memories from childhood or a product of ones environment, or just a way of thought.
Genetic or not? Well it has been said that children of Bi-polar are more prone to it also, this could mean heraditary influences, but could this be a mere coincidence or a product of watching how their parents interact on a daily basis, hence the environment to which a person has been brought up.
To say it is Genetic is a big call.
The question of it been Genetic?
Now I will say I have no knowledge to the medical research of the brain scans of patients of have been diagnosed.
Now with schizo scans of the brain have shown how the disease manifests over time and how parts of the brain show an increase in UV light as to an increase in thoughts etc. on certain parts of the brain
I am not aware of this technology been used for Bi-Polar and the outcome.
Could Bi-polar be a manifest of memories from childhood or a product of ones environment, or just a way of thought.
Genetic or not? Well it has been said that children of Bi-polar are more prone to it also, this could mean heraditary influences, but could this be a mere coincidence or a product of watching how their parents interact on a daily basis, hence the environment to which a person has been brought up.
To say it is Genetic is a big call.
The scientific community has proven Bipolar disorder IS genetic by isolating an allele on the DNA strand found ONLY in Bipolar people.
Sure provided she is seeking treatment for it and is tolerant of my own mental issues lol.
KIBALUV: The scientific community has proven Bipolar disorder IS genetic by isolating an allele on the DNA strand found ONLY in Bipolar people.
Research is still being done on premature and low-birth weight babies as a factor in bi-polar and other mental disorders:
Also, studies have been done on identical twins (sharing same DNA). As adults, one is diagnosed as bi-polar and the other never is. This indicates that bi-polar and some other mental disorders are not always genetic, but are caused by their brains being developed differently in the womb.
soloseeker: Research is still being done on premature and low-birth weight babies as a factor in bi-polar and other mental disorders:
Also, studies have been done on identical twins (sharing same DNA). As adults, one is diagnosed as bi-polar and the other never is. This indicates that bi-polar and some other mental disorders are not always genetic, but are caused by their brains being developed differently in the womb.
Also, studies have been done on identical twins (sharing same DNA). As adults, one is diagnosed as bi-polar and the other never is. This indicates that bi-polar and some other mental disorders are not always genetic, but are caused by their brains being developed differently in the womb.
Sorry about the link above, it doesn't take you to the article, still trying to figure out how to post it here. The title of the research is:
Preterm Birth Raises Risk for Later Psychiatric Disorders, from Medscape Education Clinical Briefs.
I chose maybe.
I have direct experience almost my whole life, being around people with bipolar disorder. If the person is mostly self aware and doing what's needed to keep it in some kind of reasonable order; it's not so bad once you understand the mood swings. Many still hold jobs, take care of families, etc.
If a person is unaware or even aware and ignoring, maybe even denying a potential problem, it can be dangerous to others, themselves. Normal reaction from most people will be to keep a distance. It may be a very smart move if you know the person and recognize when something isn't right that day.
I have direct experience almost my whole life, being around people with bipolar disorder. If the person is mostly self aware and doing what's needed to keep it in some kind of reasonable order; it's not so bad once you understand the mood swings. Many still hold jobs, take care of families, etc.
If a person is unaware or even aware and ignoring, maybe even denying a potential problem, it can be dangerous to others, themselves. Normal reaction from most people will be to keep a distance. It may be a very smart move if you know the person and recognize when something isn't right that day.
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I've heard of the rare psychosis Dissociative Identity Disorder being muddled up with the schizophrenias (meaning split with reality, also categorised as psychoses), but never Bipolar Disorder.