I read recently where a woman told guys after several dates that she was Bipolar & they all dumped her. This poll is to find out what the general attitude is of how people feel about dating someone with a GENETIC birth defect of mental illness.
KIBALUV: I read recently where a woman told guys after several dates that she was Bipolar & they all dumped her. This poll is to find out what the general attitude is of how people feel about dating someone with a GENETIC birth defect of mental illness.
KIBALUV: I read recently where a woman told guys after several dates that she was Bipolar & they all dumped her. This poll is to find out what the general attitude is of how people feel about dating someone with a GENETIC birth defect of mental illness.
Some Have birth defect, some Find it along the way, but WE ALL Have Something Not right about us! Whatever we may Believe!
Yes, I have. Several times and have been involved with them. What's noticeable, in the relationship, is that there are a lot of ups and down, highs and lows. No pun intended, just pointing out, that the illness manifest itself in life with others as it is for the person with the condition. Extra patients is needed.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
CuddlingSoul: Yes, I have. Several times and have been involved with them. What's noticeable, in the relationship, is that there are a lot of ups and down, highs and lows. No pun intended, just pointing out, that the illness manifest itself in life with others as it is for the person with the condition. Extra patients is needed.
I believe this type of illness can be controlled with medication, i would hope the person takes their medication regularly.
But a n illness like psychopathy would be a definite no no. There is no known cure for this.
jac379: Okay, so you've cited information that suggests there might a genetic component to bipolar disorder and there might be an environmental component.
The question was asked, why the emphasis on the possible genetic component?
That's not doubting there may be a genetic component. It's a much deeper question about possible popular attitudes towards bipolar disorder.
Well I would wager to say that most women here would not sleep with a guy who has it or put with his Bi-polar moodswings happy one minute pissed off the next. I'm sure they would not want to put with it for very long. I would think that many here male and female who think they are reasonably stable minded could be in denial they may have some disorder but they just can't quite identify it. It's what has made CS so popular everyone here is a nutcase!!
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
CapNemo: So if someone is born with mental illness, it's not a defect? What would you call it?
Let's look at something that we can perceive as being entirely genetic. Say you're more attracted to blue eyes than brown. Would you consider brown eyed people as having a birth defect? Or is it just that some people have blue eyes and some people have brown?
Now let's look at possible environmental triggers. Say someone has a genetic predisposition to mood change with respect to the time of year. So, some people slow down in the winter when there's less sunshine, less vitamin D production via UV light through the skin - what we now popularly know as Seasonal Affective Disorder.
Could that possibly have a survival function? If we were to look back at different societies, food might have been scarce in the winter, so less energy was going in to the body, but also there might have been less energy output with respect to farming, or hunting/gathering. Would it not be a really good survival strategy to have a slowing of mood, energy and metabolism during this period?
A psychiatric nurse once said to me that the ward she worked on became chaotic in the spring when people were admitted during manic episodes. It made me wonder if that too might be a survival strategy - the season changes, extra energy might be needed to farm, hunt, or gather on low resources until food became plentiful again.
I realise that not all phases of bipolar disorder for all people are seasonal, but it did make me wonder if some 'mental illnesses', or aspects of them are in fact survival strategies which no longer fit with today's 24/7/365 lifestyles.
So, is it a birth defect, or a survival strategy that no longer fits with the environment?
Or is bipolar disorder, like eye colour, something that just is?
KIBALUV: I read recently where a woman told guys after several dates that she was Bipolar & they all dumped her. This poll is to find out what the general attitude is of how people feel about dating someone with a GENETIC birth defect of mental illness.
Yes, if they are responsible and follow their medication and counselling (if any) regime. If a person is on the right meds they can live a relatively peaceful life without too many intervening incidents. Saying that, any partner should be fully aware of the condition and any side effects that could impose on their relationship.
Bi-polar is not catching, or a death-knell to a relationship. Understanding is the key.
Ziusudra: Well I would wager to say that most women here would not sleep with a guy who has it or put with his Bi-polar moodswings happy one minute pissed off the next. I'm sure they would not want to put with it for very long. I would think that many here male and female who think they are reasonably stable minded could be in denial they may have some disorder but they just can't quite identify it. It's what has made CS so popular everyone here is a nutcase!!
DedovixBig Place, Central Serbia Serbia5,492 posts
KIBALUV: I read recently where a woman told guys after several dates that she was Bipolar & they all dumped her. This poll is to find out what the general attitude is of how people feel about dating someone with a GENETIC birth defect of mental illness.
What is it with people and " dating" ,"commitments","relationship"...
I'm fine reb ty for asking, had a great weekend, how was yours ? Bipolar is a serious problem from what i see, maybe due to too much use of cannabis if you see what i mean lol
jac379: The time it took to read your post which outlined relationship dynamics that appeared to be something other than to do with bipolar disorder.
Well all clinical evaluations come to the conclusions that these individuals tend to have more multiple partners than the average person.
Yes my bi-polar ladyfriend had also been seeing 3 other men during that 3 months, one which I knew about, and she proclaimed it was a friend but that is just more of the lies to which you will be subjected to while dating these individuals. The worst part is that they never ever apologise. For anything. And I mean never, afterall it is always your fault!!
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
MrCountingStars: Well all clinical evaluations come to the conclusions that these individuals tend to have more multiple partners than the average person.
Yes my bi-polar ladyfriend had also been seeing 3 other men during that 3 months, one which I knew about, and she proclaimed it was a friend but that is just more of the lies to which you will be subjected to while dating these individuals. The worst part is that they never ever apologise. For anything. And I mean never, afterall it is always your fault!!
And yet you appeared to be blaming her and/or others for driving you back to addiction.
Perhaps you're missing something in your own behaviour and so missing something in the behaviour of others before you decide to become involved with them.
Onlyguy: You're simply honest and not trying to say what you think people want to hear or always looking for an argument which is far worst than being Bipolar
lovemedofr: I'm fine reb ty for asking, had a great weekend, how was yours ? Bipolar is a serious problem from what i see, maybe due to too much use of cannabis if you see what i mean lol
fine till blizzard sunday,yes a friend is bipolar,took yrs.by drs.to confirm it,medicine helped him.
WOW!!! KIBALUV should be here to watch the knockout dragout cat fight between Jac and McCounting stars
She is the OP and should have some interest in how this thread is progressing. I would think pretty soon Jac and Mc counting will be getting a room together!!!
jac379: Let's look at something that we can perceive as being entirely genetic. Say you're more attracted to blue eyes than brown. Would you consider brown eyed people as having a birth defect? Or is it just that some people have blue eyes and some people have brown?
Now let's look at possible environmental triggers. Say someone has a genetic predisposition to mood change with respect to the time of year. So, some people slow down in the winter when there's less sunshine, less vitamin D production via UV light through the skin - what we now popularly know as Seasonal Affective Disorder.
Could that possibly have a survival function? If we were to look back at different societies, food might have been scarce in the winter, so less energy was going in to the body, but also there might have been less energy output with respect to farming, or hunting/gathering. Would it not be a really good survival strategy to have a slowing of mood, energy and metabolism during this period?
A psychiatric nurse once said to me that the ward she worked on became chaotic in the spring when people were admitted during manic episodes. It made me wonder if that too might be a survival strategy - the season changes, extra energy might be needed to farm, hunt, or gather on low resources until food became plentiful again.
I realise that not all phases of bipolar disorder for all people are seasonal, but it did make me wonder if some 'mental illnesses', or aspects of them are in fact survival strategies which no longer fit with today's 24/7/365 lifestyles.
So, is it a birth defect, or a survival strategy that no longer fits with the environment?
Or is bipolar disorder, like eye colour, something that just is?
My thought on that is the difference in eye color wouldn't be considered a defect, assuming both color eyes function in a normal, healthy manner. If one of the colors malfunctioned, then it would be a defect. Bipolar disorder, in my opinion, wouldn't be associated with survival strategies, as it seems that would be rather counter productive for survival. Just my thoughts tho.
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
CapNemo: My thought on that is the difference in eye color wouldn't be considered a defect, assuming both color eyes function in a normal, healthy manner. If one of the colors malfunctioned, then it would be a defect. Bipolar disorder, in my opinion, wouldn't be associated with survival strategies, as it seems that would be rather counter productive for survival. Just my thoughts tho.
Why do you think fluctuating mood, or behaviour might not have been a historical survival strategy?
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