what should america do about all of the child immigrants (156)
sweetiefireballOak Forest, Illinois USA47 Threads 47 Polls 340 Postsam curious why this attitude....why the assumptions ....does not make sense....energy should b expended in a positive way......
sweetiefireball: am curious why this attitude....why the assumptions ....does not make sense....energy should b expended in a positive way......
Which attitude?
This is my normal being (I do have a thick skin) and in fact I found humorous your comments.
Good night lady!
im·mi·grant/'imigr?nt/
noun
a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.
An Illegal Immigrant does the same thing but does so by circumventing the process, sort of like cutting in line or crawling under the gate altogether.
ref·u·gee/?refyo?o'je,'refyo?o?je/
noun
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
The origin of a refugee situation is always located in the country from which people are fleeing, and unless that situation is addressed, the refugees will not stop leaving. Think, Exodus, Budapest 1956, East Berlin, Cuba, etc.
If I were the president, I would be meeting with Enrique Peña Nieto
The Mexican President to form an alliance to go and have a talk with the Honduran government and see if together we could assist them to clean out these drug gangs.
noun
a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country.
An Illegal Immigrant does the same thing but does so by circumventing the process, sort of like cutting in line or crawling under the gate altogether.
ref·u·gee/?refyo?o'je,'refyo?o?je/
noun
a person who has been forced to leave their country in order to escape war, persecution, or natural disaster.
The origin of a refugee situation is always located in the country from which people are fleeing, and unless that situation is addressed, the refugees will not stop leaving. Think, Exodus, Budapest 1956, East Berlin, Cuba, etc.
If I were the president, I would be meeting with Enrique Peña Nieto
The Mexican President to form an alliance to go and have a talk with the Honduran government and see if together we could assist them to clean out these drug gangs.
people in this area r very serious and concerned about these kids...the matter shall b brought up at a mtg the following weekend....yeah!!
oooby i like ur first idea....heads of state to battle the problem at home base....a real home run idea...
sweetiefireball: my friends are worried about this issue and wondering what should be done about it
Every government's first obligation is towards his own citizens. You cannot blame a man for getting when government spend his tax money on strangers while his parents are not getting a square deal. And you cannot blame a person for being uptight if he/she is unemployed while an immigrant (illegal or not) sit in a job he/she could have had.
Legal immigration
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Illegal immigration - that is the question.
Each of the States in the United States have a set policy on where to place until they repatriate the illegal immigrants! It is a burden on State resources to have a flood of illegals to deal with. It is not about the sympathy, empathy or understanding of the plight of those fleeing injustice in their countries
however, there is enough of a challenge in using tax dollars to take care of 308 million folk as it is...... this is about a debate to form a national policy on immigration and reform the many different rules about who, and how folk can come into America.
or
Illegal immigration - that is the question.
Each of the States in the United States have a set policy on where to place until they repatriate the illegal immigrants! It is a burden on State resources to have a flood of illegals to deal with. It is not about the sympathy, empathy or understanding of the plight of those fleeing injustice in their countries
however, there is enough of a challenge in using tax dollars to take care of 308 million folk as it is...... this is about a debate to form a national policy on immigration and reform the many different rules about who, and how folk can come into America.
well...as stated before i do understand all of the different positions and so on and so forth....there r some organizations which do not depend upon the govt to help others out....these r what i am referring to in this town...this town is unusual w the tri /catholic campuses all next to o0ne another and all of the agencies that we have here to help people....indiana may have some dying towns ...but yet....people come from all over to get help here....especially the homeless and just released prisoners cause they know they shall receive help....lots of resources that come from individuals and private sectors...not govt funding....
JeanKimberley: Legal immigration
or
Illegal immigration - that is the question. Each of the States in the United States have a set policy on where to place until they repatriate the illegal immigrants! It is a burden on State resources to have a flood of illegals to deal with. It is not about the sympathy, empathy or understanding of the plight of those fleeing injustice in their countries
however, there is enough of a challenge in using tax dollars to take care of 308 million folk as it is...... this is about a debate to form a national policy on immigration and reform the many different rules about who, and how folk can come into America.
or
Illegal immigration - that is the question. Each of the States in the United States have a set policy on where to place until they repatriate the illegal immigrants! It is a burden on State resources to have a flood of illegals to deal with. It is not about the sympathy, empathy or understanding of the plight of those fleeing injustice in their countries
however, there is enough of a challenge in using tax dollars to take care of 308 million folk as it is...... this is about a debate to form a national policy on immigration and reform the many different rules about who, and how folk can come into America.
And then there is California where they actually give you special credits for being Illegal.
Dragos1: And then there is California where they actually give you special credits for being Illegal.
Yes California is special - one moment in history those folk in the southern California were living in American and the next moment they were living in Mexico, and they never moved from their homes. Go figure - so of course you get special credits.
JeanKimberley: Yes California is special - one moment in history those folk in the southern California were living in American and the next moment they were living in Mexico, and they never moved from their homes. Go figure - so of course you get special credits.
Did you see where the man there was allowed to become an actual attorney at Law, though he is still an illegal alien. There is discussion on how he will be able to interact with "other" states. He chose to go into "personal injury" Car accident type law. It just seems very strange that they ignore the fact he is here illegally. Not to speak of the precedence that it creates.
Dragos1: Did you see where the man there was allowed to become an actual attorney at Law, though he is still an illegal alien. There is discussion on how he will be able to interact with "other" states. He chose to go into "personal injury" Car accident type law. It just seems very strange that they ignore the fact he is here illegally. Not to speak of the precedence that it creates.
the USA has sooo many ways to become a resident or citizen - you can work in the USA, if you come in as a business and employ Americans. There are certain jobs that are in critical need here, like nurses - so it makes complete sense to me that an attorney at law, as a business, who employes Americans in his business - all very legal regardless of his "legal" status. We have a mixed up crazy way of bringing in legal and illigal folks into our country.
May analysis is: if it is a Tuesday and the hoop you have to jump through to become a citizen is on fire, then you must jump through it twice, however, if it is a Wednesday and the hoop is on fire, well you only have to jump through it once, but it is moving........
so much is being written that is very revelant to our times....so much work to do for our own and others....may i ask what is going on in ur community either for citizens/or others coming into country....
so much is being written that is very revelant to our times....so much work to do for our own and others....may i ask what is going on in ur community either for citizens/or others coming into country....
heya dude....i did such a report a few yrs back in college and mentioned it was unprecendeted numbers coming in....la la la and what were we going to do,,,,the rebuttal was that we had plenty of funding....this was back in 2010 dude...anyways....if u cannot read thru this all...there is a lot...the point is these are children....and nobody worth their salt is going to turn kids away....i know some people have no problem that in other countries people trying to get in...whole families...this came up in my research have no problem shooting and killing children....yes it is a voltaile situation....which is why the ones who feel up to doing something w their own money not the govt....what is it to u dude!
ps...notice the title of the blog child immigrants....thanks....
sweetiefireball: so much is being written that is very revelant to our times....so much work to do for our own and others....may i ask what is going on in ur community either for citizens/or others coming into country....
Private resources and private funding are low, if not non-existent, now (in my area).
Thousands upon thousands of children seeking refuge in the US, the numbers are increasing instead of decreasing, it is overwhelming.
sweetiefireball: heya dude....i did such a report a few yrs back in college and mentioned it was unprecendeted numbers coming in....la la la and what were we going to do,,,,the rebuttal was that we had plenty of funding....this was back in 2010 dude...anyways....if u cannot read thru this all...there is a lot...the point is these are children....and nobody worth their salt is going to turn kids away....i know some people have no problem that in other countries people trying to get in...whole families...this came up in my research have no problem shooting and killing children....yes it is a voltaile situation....which is why the ones who feel up to doing something w their own money not the govt....what is it to u dude!
There is currently very little funding. Yes, I read it all the way through. Yes, they are children, and no, I am not down on them--it is the parents who are breaking the law. (The children become "anchors", and that makes it much easier for the adults to follow. Call it what you want, it's fraud, a scam, whatever). They are not going through the proper channels, which is unfair to those who do). My having my belief about this does not mean I am not worth my salt--I am very much worth my salt. If fact, my salt shaker is full and over-flowing. I fully understand being caring, and hospitable. These times are not easy, and these rules are in place. If you commit any other type of crime, you can't say, "well, I should get away with taking that because I needed it". How far could society go with this way of thinking? You need to go back to the drawing board, put on your listening ears, and focus your eyes on what IS, not what just seems nice and pretty. It's called cognition. Please try to understand why the immigration laws exist. Give yourself a few minutes or so, and really, really think hard, and it will become clearer to you.If the USA is supposed to have a immigration law in place,have boarder patrol at our border and have had for quite sometime then why are illegals coming over here?By smugglers?
I don't believe a thing the President says o or the what the mass media says.
I don't believe a thing the President says o or the what the mass media says.
Ccincy: If the USA is supposed to have a immigration law in place,have boarder patrol at our border and have had for quite sometime then why are illegals coming over here?By smugglers?
I don't believe a thing the President says o or the what the mass media says.
Because they are children they are treated differently than adult offenders. The public generally is "softer" because they are kids, and ministers, priests, etc...get into the mix and confound it further. BTW--I'm a demo, but I am with you on the recent decisions. I don't agree with the trend.I don't believe a thing the President says o or the what the mass media says.
rohaan: Because they are children they are treated differently than adult offenders. The public generally is "softer" because they are kids, and ministers, priests, etc...get into the mix and confound it further. BTW--I'm a demo, but I am with you on the recent decisions. I don't agree with the trend.
Hi rohaan
I read the part where you posted about where the adults are using the kids as a way to get over here.That could very well be true cause as you say they are going to be softer on kids then adults.sweetiefireball: so much is being written that is very revelant to our times....so much work to do for our own and others....may i ask what is going on in ur community either for citizens/or others coming into country....
An example of how legal refugees are cared for by local communities:
After the break up of the former Yugoslavia , St. Louis sponsored approximately 7,000 Bosnian refugees.
Who sponsored them? Local charities, religious institutes, Universities, private citizens. They were provided housing, English lessons, clothing, integrated into the educational system, aided with finding employment. Successful due to planning, cooperation and funding by the above-mentioned.
Consider now the difference between this and the thousands of children finding a way across the border and in most cases, simply turning themselves in to authorities. The above scenario is crumbling, as the resources are running out from the sheer volumes of children fleeing across the U.S. border. The same charities and organizations have been doing everything possible to help these children, but the resources are running out due to the sheer volume, and the waves aren't decreasing, they are increasing.
I have said this in another thread dedicated to this subject...I don't have any easy answers.
OP, in other words, systems are already in place, so you and your concerned friends don't need to re-invent wheel.
Research those avenues that are already in place in your community and if you decide to become personally involved with aiding these children, your time, resources, and money are urgently needed.
Research those avenues that are already in place in your community and if you decide to become personally involved with aiding these children, your time, resources, and money are urgently needed.
One last thought, and then I'm out of this discussion...again.
If you don't receive the information you would like, or prefer a personal approach but don't know where to begin, contact the U.S. State Department directly.
If you don't receive the information you would like, or prefer a personal approach but don't know where to begin, contact the U.S. State Department directly.
, MAN SERIOUSLY, AMERICA, I HAVE NO IDEA. MY SELF. BRING THEM ALL TO MY HOME. THREE BUS LOADS OF KID WHO R FLEEING HAVING THEIR HEADS CUT OFF. I WOULD HELP SIXTY KIDS. SO MANY PEOPLE HERE. LETS HELP THESE KIDS.
sweetiefireball: heya dude....i did such a report a few yrs back in college and mentioned it was unprecendeted numbers coming in....la la la and what were we going to do,,,,the rebuttal was that we had plenty of funding....this was back in 2010 dude...anyways....if u cannot read thru this all...there is a lot...the point is these are children....and nobody worth their salt is going to turn kids away....i know some people have no problem that in other countries people trying to get in...whole families...this came up in my research have no problem shooting and killing children....yes it is a voltaile situation....which is why the ones who feel up to doing something w their own money not the govt....what is it to u dude!
Just to clarify, who is "dude"? I only knew that one but he is not here.
Kaybee50: OP, in other words, systems are already in place, so you and your concerned friends don't need to re-invent wheel.
Research those avenues that are already in place in your community and if you decide to become personally involved with aiding these children, your time, resources, and money are urgently needed.
Research those avenues that are already in place in your community and if you decide to become personally involved with aiding these children, your time, resources, and money are urgently needed.
They "might" be in place. But no one is using or enforcing them. Meanwhile there are strong changes being made every day. YOU will lose the ground you stand on because someone does not stay in the lines. Even if you are a "good" person others are out there that will exploit your caring nature. I see it all around me. Like the woman that steals from me but "oh on" don't take an old drunk woman away. same manipulation and mind set. They damn well better reinvent the wheel and set it rolling at high speeds.
well...so far as well as i know there are not any of these kids in the midwest parts of the usa....so resources abound this a way....think of it...artificial turf is going into football stadiums and could b diverted this way and that...for our own and for others...
we have a another mtg this thurs....shall keep everyone posted...
sweetiefireball: we have a another mtg this thurs....shall keep everyone posted...
It is confusing as to who you are talking to, do you read the questions directed to you? TY
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