what should america do about all of the child immigrants (156)
JeanKimberley: INTERESTING!
This section of DiscoverTheNetworks examines the immigration policies of Mexico. Though that nation's government has long criticized U.S. efforts to curtail the heavy northward flow of Mexican illegals, Mexico itself takes a hard line against those who would violate its immigration laws.
As Professor Michael Waller of the Institute of World Politics points out, Mexico deports more illegal aliens than the United States does. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien residing anywhere in the country. Mexican immigration authorities keep detailed records of all foreign visitors. These visitors are explicitly banned from interfering in the nation's internal politics. Those who enter the country under false pretenses (e.g., with fake papers) are summarily incarcerated or deported, and those who aid in illegal immigration are also sent to prison.
This section of DiscoverTheNetworks examines the immigration policies of Mexico. Though that nation's government has long criticized U.S. efforts to curtail the heavy northward flow of Mexican illegals, Mexico itself takes a hard line against those who would violate its immigration laws.
As Professor Michael Waller of the Institute of World Politics points out, Mexico deports more illegal aliens than the United States does. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien residing anywhere in the country. Mexican immigration authorities keep detailed records of all foreign visitors. These visitors are explicitly banned from interfering in the nation's internal politics. Those who enter the country under false pretenses (e.g., with fake papers) are summarily incarcerated or deported, and those who aid in illegal immigration are also sent to prison.
It is true that the Mexican Immigration entity treats the Central American migrants (mostly going to USA) in a way that is a disgrace but just because the Mexican “ migra”does it it does not mean it the USA has to do the same, specially if you compare the countries, one is a 3rd. world country and the other is a “developed” one.
Illegal immigration is wrong.
Illegal immigration has a cost but it does have a benefit as well and anyone with two connected brain cells can figure it out.
Should every illegal immigrant be shot as it has been proposed here by Oregongold?
Then:
Should the Illegal Americans in Mexico be shot as well?
If people want to see the problem of illegal immigration as a problem of one side, they are short sighed or do not want to use their capacity to understand that the illegal immigration is a 2 way problem.
Huh? Children immigrating on their own? Sheesh,...I have to turn the TV on more these days!
Do what you will. Immigration laws pertaining to any given country should reflect their wishes,....even though immigration is merely "movement" over "imaginary borders". You are all of this puny little (but quite beautiful) planet.
Signed the Martian looking now towards Jovian moons for holiday time,...
Do what you will. Immigration laws pertaining to any given country should reflect their wishes,....even though immigration is merely "movement" over "imaginary borders". You are all of this puny little (but quite beautiful) planet.
Signed the Martian looking now towards Jovian moons for holiday time,...
A_Non_A_Moose: Huh? Children immigrating on their own? Sheesh,...I have to turn the TV on more these days!
Do what you will. Immigration laws pertaining to any given country should reflect their wishes,....even though immigration is merely "movement" over "imaginary borders". You are all of this puny little (but quite beautiful) planet.
Signed the Martian looking now towards Jovian moons for holiday time,...
Do what you will. Immigration laws pertaining to any given country should reflect their wishes,....even though immigration is merely "movement" over "imaginary borders". You are all of this puny little (but quite beautiful) planet.
Signed the Martian looking now towards Jovian moons for holiday time,...
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I heard they're gonna send 25,000 of them to Canada. That should about double the population.
ooby_dooby: I heard they're gonna send 25,000 of them to Canada. That should about double the population.
now ooby that was a good joke admidst all of this crisis!!
sweetiefireball: now ooby that was a good joke admidst all of this crisis!!
I'm glad you liked it, most people on here don't get my style of humor.Im tired of paying for everyone else,i dont care how bad they have it,it just makes it harder on the people that were born here.Put them on a boat and drop them off out a sea.This pansey country is to worried about gay people,this worlds gonna burn in hell!
rohaan: You forgot one very valid choice. Send them back and require them and their families to follow the law like everyone else has to. I am not without sympathy, but it has become a real fairness issue, and allowing this is unfair to the many people who apply to live here in all the appropriate ways. Simply coming over the border and expecting to be allowed residency is not tolerated in other circumstances. The rules are the rules. Yes, my Scottish ancestors came here from another country--legally. That's the difference.
i agree. very simple actually.
These are human beings and children at that, not commodities or rubbish that you can dump at sea! (which is also not allowed in some parts, because of pollution etc., understandably so!).
The fact that they are being sent off on their own speaks for itself. The families are desperate for better lives because their own governments (dictators in some cases) are treating them so badly that they fear for their lives. The United Nations should step in and sort out these countries' rulers and make them give their people a good reason to say at home in their own country, which I'm sure most would like to do if they could have a decent safe life there. So, the reason they are leaving needs to be sorted!
In the meantime, the way these poor immigrants are coming in in droves over the borders and in overcrowded boats needs to be dealt with efficiently yes but even more important, humanely.
Unfortunately, it's the human weakness of "not in my backyard" and "as long as I'm alright Jack". More common among those who are not so poor and desperate. We tend to leave it all up to the charity organisations and 'do-gooders'.
The fact that they are being sent off on their own speaks for itself. The families are desperate for better lives because their own governments (dictators in some cases) are treating them so badly that they fear for their lives. The United Nations should step in and sort out these countries' rulers and make them give their people a good reason to say at home in their own country, which I'm sure most would like to do if they could have a decent safe life there. So, the reason they are leaving needs to be sorted!
In the meantime, the way these poor immigrants are coming in in droves over the borders and in overcrowded boats needs to be dealt with efficiently yes but even more important, humanely.
Unfortunately, it's the human weakness of "not in my backyard" and "as long as I'm alright Jack". More common among those who are not so poor and desperate. We tend to leave it all up to the charity organisations and 'do-gooders'.
I suppose all the USA can really do for once in it's life is house those children by finding them temporary sponsor homes,treat them medically and then send them back to their own countries and really and truly close and police the border.
sweetiefireball: my friends are worried about this issue and wondering what should be done about it
Taking them in will encourage even more children to attempt the crossing. Letting them stay may seem the more caring solution for feels-based incapables, but in the long-term they'll be signing the death warrants of countless children to come.
Grow a pair and choose the lesser of the evils(even if those evils are front-loaded)rather than passing the buck and making the future worse by letting this batch of children stay. Be caring without caring - this is the best attitude and this is the only way a civilisation can survive for very long.
iwil55: Immediately send them all back...
not under law bush signed/day in court 1st.
all the present Administration will do,is kick the Can further down the Road!
Conrad73: all the present Administration will do,is kick the Can further down the Road!
elections in nov.need the latin vote,Rs used to have it,still among cuban voters in florida/miami,bush signed law,they get their day in court/R plan?
minnieme2: These are human beings and children at that, not commodities or rubbish that you can dump at sea! (which is also not allowed in some parts, because of pollution etc., understandably so!).
The fact that they are being sent off on their own speaks for itself. The families are desperate for better lives because their own governments (dictators in some cases) are treating them so badly that they fear for their lives. The United Nations should step in and sort out these countries' rulers and make them give their people a good reason to say at home in their own country, which I'm sure most would like to do if they could have a decent safe life there. So, the reason they are leaving needs to be sorted!Yes...humanity is everyone,s concern and we need to figure out a way so as to make it that the brunt does not fall on just one sector of the paying public!
In the meantime, the way these poor immigrants are coming in in droves over the borders and in overcrowded boats needs to be dealt with efficiently yes but even more important, humanely.
Unfortunately, it's the human weakness of "not in my backyard" and "as long as I'm alright Jack". More common among those who are not so poor and desperate. We tend to leave it all up to the charity organisations and 'do-gooders'.
The fact that they are being sent off on their own speaks for itself. The families are desperate for better lives because their own governments (dictators in some cases) are treating them so badly that they fear for their lives. The United Nations should step in and sort out these countries' rulers and make them give their people a good reason to say at home in their own country, which I'm sure most would like to do if they could have a decent safe life there. So, the reason they are leaving needs to be sorted!Yes...humanity is everyone,s concern and we need to figure out a way so as to make it that the brunt does not fall on just one sector of the paying public!
In the meantime, the way these poor immigrants are coming in in droves over the borders and in overcrowded boats needs to be dealt with efficiently yes but even more important, humanely.
Unfortunately, it's the human weakness of "not in my backyard" and "as long as I'm alright Jack". More common among those who are not so poor and desperate. We tend to leave it all up to the charity organisations and 'do-gooders'.
ahhh...i do not know if my statement went thru....we need to find a way to help and all peoples b involved and also that the burden does not just fall on a certain class of society...
no getting around it financially it can b a burden...but...humanity needs to care for humanity....and all peoples....everywhere....
sweetiefireball: no getting around it financially it can b a burden...but...humanity needs to care for humanity....and all peoples....everywhere....
I agree with your opinions and the USA is not the only country these children and adults from Central America are seeking out because of current and past economic as well as corrupt conditions where they were born.
In addition to these forces pushing them here, our government created a condition where their parents already living here are paying traffickers $6k to $7k to bring their child over the boarder to eventually be reunited.
well how come that is not publiziced....by either the media or the Pope thru the media....hmmm....darn frustrating at times to analyze a situation....
good one!Amid all the talk about this problem I have yet to read anything about the government of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador being involved in dealing with their own citizens fleeing thier country in order to save their lives. From what I've heard, their governments are corrupt and incapable of solving their own crime problem. Aren't THEY responsible for this situation? They seem to have totally lost control of thier own country where drug cartels and gangs are running the place. Is anybody talking the whoever is supposed to be in charge down in Honduras etc? Maybe we should ship all these people back to Central America and send them the bill.
Somethins gotta give!
I doubt Mexico likes the idea of 55,000 and more foreigners crossing their country.
What are we going to do when the flow increases into the millions?
Somethins gotta give!
I doubt Mexico likes the idea of 55,000 and more foreigners crossing their country.
What are we going to do when the flow increases into the millions?
ooby_dooby: Amid all the talk about this problem I have yet to read anything about the government of Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador being involved in dealing with their own citizens fleeing thier country in order to save their lives. From what I've heard, their governments are corrupt and incapable of solving their own crime problem. Aren't THEY responsible for this situation? They seem to have totally lost control of thier own country where drug cartels and gangs are running the place. Is anybody talking the whoever is supposed to be in charge down in Honduras etc? Maybe we should ship all these people back to Central America and send them the bill.
Somethins gotta give!
I doubt Mexico likes the idea of 55,000 and more foreigners crossing their country.
What are we going to do when the flow increases into the millions?
Somethins gotta give!
I doubt Mexico likes the idea of 55,000 and more foreigners crossing their country.
What are we going to do when the flow increases into the millions?
For over 200 years, the world has whispered, the streets of the new world America are lined with gold.... and so they came, and were rudely awoken. Why is it that President Obama can ask the world to impose sanctions on other countries for their corrupt governments, but says nothing about these poor 3rd world countries..... because it is not politically correct.
galrads: I hear the state of Virginia is qualified to receive at least a half million of the illegal homeless children already already in Texas and the additional half million more on the way to the Texas border.
Virginia state and local governments only need to tax Virginians an additional 20% more on their income taxes to make it work. A new study indicates Virginia can do another 20% easily.
Yaw! Go Virginia !
Virginia state and local governments only need to tax Virginians an additional 20% more on their income taxes to make it work. A new study indicates Virginia can do another 20% easily.
Yaw! Go Virginia !
Yes, Virginia! Offer them the American Dream envisioned by one of the original 13 colonies, once filled with immigrants seeking a better way of life... liberty and happiness!
Two counties in particular come to mind (Buchanan and Dickenson) where more than one out of four working age adults (15-64) are currently receiving disability benefits from their Government.
Imagine what an influx of young, able bodied, hard working people could accomplish!
Isn't realistic sarcasm great?
ooby....you are amongst the many r making very good arguments...in fact all positions on this subject r doing that...thanks peeps....good arguments for the various positions....a few decades ago a certain someone try to point out what was going on at least in El Salvador that i am aware of for that country...the others...is a question...for him trying to do something about it...he was murdered whilst saying Mass by his own people he tried to help....he was an Archbishop....Oscar Romero....killed right in front of a bunch of nuns....he had kept going to Rome to petition for help...and he brought it all out in front of the whole world....and for this he was killed....others before him....scary to think 3 yrs back i was in south america and was at their airport....poorest country i have ever seen.....airport was bad...animals were on the airport runway....i was on my way even further down south to uruguay to visit people i know there....still friends w the peeps i got to know while there....
sweetiefireball: ooby....you are amongst the many r making very good arguments...in fact all positions on this subject r doing that...thanks peeps....good arguments for the various positions....a few decades ago a certain someone try to point out what was going on at least in El Salvador that i am aware of for that country...the others...is a question...for him trying to do something about it...he was murdered whilst saying Mass by his own people he tried to help....he was an Archbishop....Oscar Romero....killed right in front of a bunch of nuns....he had kept going to Rome to petition for help...and he brought it all out in front of the whole world....and for this he was killed....others before him....scary to think 3 yrs back i was in south america and was at their airport....poorest country i have ever seen.....airport was bad...animals were on the airport runway....i was on my way even further down south to uruguay to visit people i know there....still friends w the peeps i got to know while there....
and America created a refugee status for the Salvadorians how fled their country at that time. The states still pay for those people to stay in American on the taxpayers dime.
sweetiefireball: my friends are worried about this issue and wondering what should be done about it
well if its just to much ......you could turn them into Mac Donald's employees and export them to work in Russia
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This section of DiscoverTheNetworks examines the immigration policies of Mexico. Though that nation's government has long criticized U.S. efforts to curtail the heavy northward flow of Mexican illegals, Mexico itself takes a hard line against those who would violate its immigration laws.
As Professor Michael Waller of the Institute of World Politics points out, Mexico deports more illegal aliens than the United States does. Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien residing anywhere in the country. Mexican immigration authorities keep detailed records of all foreign visitors. These visitors are explicitly banned from interfering in the nation's internal politics. Those who enter the country under false pretenses (e.g., with fake papers) are summarily incarcerated or deported, and those who aid in illegal immigration are also sent to prison.