Obama Rocks! Can America afford to doubt his new president in the time of trouble? (824)
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Hot_Single_Dude: I bet they weared guns or knifes and stuff because of listening too much to that trator Limbaugh ...........right Indy?
No they were listing to that dumb butt VanderHovel from the Nation.
Hot_Single_Dude: And you Stupied man calling me a pedofile in another thread!
Really treully understandable majority of americans did not want guys as you or Bruno on power no more!
You got Not a Thing Indyfella and then mumbling your thoguhts in a stupied way!
When you try to "analyse" me ........well...... itching my nose and finding a juicy bogey for you to chew on!
Really treully understandable majority of americans did not want guys as you or Bruno on power no more!
You got Not a Thing Indyfella and then mumbling your thoguhts in a stupied way!
When you try to "analyse" me ........well...... itching my nose and finding a juicy bogey for you to chew on!
I'd want to see that quote as I don't recall it. But as the saying goes..."if the shoe fits..."
Indyfella: I'd want to see that quote as I don't recall it. But as the saying goes..."if the shoe fits..."
The dud is an acrobat.
He's slipping and flipping at the same time.
There is a Gud. Left winger & head of the CIA Leon Panetta has now thrown far left radical Nancy Pelosi under the friggin bus 2 x. I love it.
Now Czar Pelosi is only a figure head. She'll be gone in 30 days.
Now Czar Pelosi is only a figure head. She'll be gone in 30 days.
House REP Minority Leader Bainer....ask Nancy Polosi to either show proof that the CIA lied or give them a apology.
This is going to be fun. Asking Nancy Polosi to make a decision
with evidence
Leon Penetta (former DEM house representative) the CIA director is saying the using these issues as political clubs is bad for the country.
Penetta sent a email to the CIA staff saying that lieing to Congress is wrong. Don't do it.
Silence from the DEM in the House and Senate is speaking volumes on the issue.
Presdient Obama press man...when asked if he has confidence in Nancy Polosi.....said that he does have confidence in her.
Careful Mr. President......she is swimming with the sharks and they sense blood.....
This is going to be fun. Asking Nancy Polosi to make a decision
with evidence
Leon Penetta (former DEM house representative) the CIA director is saying the using these issues as political clubs is bad for the country.
Penetta sent a email to the CIA staff saying that lieing to Congress is wrong. Don't do it.
Silence from the DEM in the House and Senate is speaking volumes on the issue.
Presdient Obama press man...when asked if he has confidence in Nancy Polosi.....said that he does have confidence in her.
Careful Mr. President......she is swimming with the sharks and they sense blood.....
The NYTimes just asked to have the GITMO torture pics released.
Certainly such would hurt US military personel that are in harm way for the country. President Obama so far has stood firm to keeping them classified.
Also this....
Linda Moncrief, center of the Obama/NYTime/ACORN controversy..said that the NYTimes has a second donar list that was not given to the
FCC by the Obama campaign.
The second donar list seems to be compiled by ACORN for Obama.
Thus proving a strong connection between ACORN (a organization that was saying it was without party affliation).
Linda Moncrief is a DEM and a Obama supporter.
The NY Times failed to write a researched piece showing the connection between Obama and ACORN prior to the Nov. election.
Today after a internal review......the NYTimes ombudsman (a Mr. Hoyt)that did the review....said it was O'Reilly (of FOXX) that twisted a recorded phone conversation between Moncrief and a NYTime reporter.
Glad there is no bias in the US media to the left and the DEMs.
There may be a violation of campaign donation laws in all this.
Having a second donation list is frowned on the by the FED Gov't.
Certainly such would hurt US military personel that are in harm way for the country. President Obama so far has stood firm to keeping them classified.
Also this....
Linda Moncrief, center of the Obama/NYTime/ACORN controversy..said that the NYTimes has a second donar list that was not given to the
FCC by the Obama campaign.
The second donar list seems to be compiled by ACORN for Obama.
Thus proving a strong connection between ACORN (a organization that was saying it was without party affliation).
Linda Moncrief is a DEM and a Obama supporter.
The NY Times failed to write a researched piece showing the connection between Obama and ACORN prior to the Nov. election.
Today after a internal review......the NYTimes ombudsman (a Mr. Hoyt)that did the review....said it was O'Reilly (of FOXX) that twisted a recorded phone conversation between Moncrief and a NYTime reporter.
Glad there is no bias in the US media to the left and the DEMs.
There may be a violation of campaign donation laws in all this.
Having a second donation list is frowned on the by the FED Gov't.
Indyfella: After that, members will think I'm warm and fuzzy
Yeah but the gators will all look at me and say "DAMN!!!" before they slowly back into the water.
Dud gets it but it would ruin his troll games if he did not play the moron.
Now if any of his fans would like to argue the pooint that he is indeed a real moron and not a troll, have at it.
BrunoMcMahon: Yeah but the gators will all look at me and say "DAMN!!!" before they slowly back into the water.
Dud gets it but it would ruin his troll games if he did not play the moron.
Now if any of his fans would like to argue the pooint that he is indeed a real moron and not a troll, have at it.
Dud gets it but it would ruin his troll games if he did not play the moron.
Now if any of his fans would like to argue the pooint that he is indeed a real moron and not a troll, have at it.
desmond: Dude you love this Indy and his followers will not.
Followers?
Come, come now. Are you one of those libs that lives the fantasy that those who disagree with you can not think for themselves?
It must make a very comfortable world for you.
How much of a commission do you make on such a big sale to yourself?
BrunoMcMahon: Followers?
Come, come now. Are you one of those libs that lives the fantasy that those who disagree with you can not think for themselves?
It must make a very comfortable world for you.
How much of a commission do you make on such a big sale to yourself?
Come, come now. Are you one of those libs that lives the fantasy that those who disagree with you can not think for themselves?
It must make a very comfortable world for you.
How much of a commission do you make on such a big sale to yourself?
You can disagree with me anytime and I have been here for a long time and it seem like only if you do not agree the the Reb then you are wrong to me we all have the right to ag
ree or disagre but on this site if you don't hate Obama the you are hated . I don't live in a fantasy life but I thought the video was funny if you can't see it as funny then you must be the one living in a fantasy. All I can say O
bama is better than your all mighty GWB and his side kick Chaney but then I am not the oner living in a fantasy you might want to talk to your new leader Russ
Could have sworn the Potus name was Obama!
desmond: The Great GWB in his own words Dude you love this.
Now Des...go nail jello to a tree please?
desmond: You can disagree with me anytime and I have been here for a long time and it seem like only if you do not agree the the Reb then you are wrong to me we all have the right to ag
ree or disagre but on this site if you don't hate Obama the you are hated . I don't live in a fantasy life but I thought the video was funny if you can't see it as funny then you must be the one living in a fantasy. All I can say O
bama is better than your all mighty GWB and his side kick Chaney but then I am not the oner living in a fantasy you might want to talk to your new leader Russ
ree or disagre but on this site if you don't hate Obama the you are hated . I don't live in a fantasy life but I thought the video was funny if you can't see it as funny then you must be the one living in a fantasy. All I can say O
bama is better than your all mighty GWB and his side kick Chaney but then I am not the oner living in a fantasy you might want to talk to your new leader Russ
Where did I say anyhing about Obama or the Video?
I was commenting quite clearly on the "followers" comment YOU made.
As far as the video goes I thought it was disrespectful to Obama. I may not think he is qualified for the office but he is not stupid.
Who the heck is this Russ you now claim to be my leader? While we're at it why are you continuing with this fantasy anyone but myself is my leader?
BrunoMcMahon: . I may not think he is qualified for the office but he is not stupid.
I could have told you your opinions pertaining to Obama's competence according to you age and color. Another foot soldier from your demographic still stuck with old America.
I understand though and respect your difference of opinion. But I just think it's hilarious how really nobody under 40 ever comes into the political threads to criticize Obama.
StressFree: I could have told you your opinions pertaining to Obama's competence according to you age and color. Another foot soldier from your demographic still stuck with old America.
I understand though and respect your difference of opinion. But I just think it's hilarious how really nobody under 40 ever comes into the political threads to criticize Obama.
The DUMBING down in the Schools,and too much of that Collectivist/Statist KoolAid!I understand though and respect your difference of opinion. But I just think it's hilarious how really nobody under 40 ever comes into the political threads to criticize Obama.
And Selfesteem the size of a Pea!
StressFree: I could have told you your opinions pertaining to Obama's competence according to you age and color. Another foot soldier from your demographic still stuck with old America.
I understand though and respect your difference of opinion. But I just think it's hilarious how really nobody under 40 ever comes into the political threads to criticize Obama.
I understand though and respect your difference of opinion. But I just think it's hilarious how really nobody under 40 ever comes into the political threads to criticize Obama.
How about telling me what in Mr. Obama's history qualifies him for office instead of citing your theroy on demographics?
So far all I hear amounts to "He's not George Bush". That arguement holds for several hundred million other unqualified people in this country too.
Can you offer anything better for an arguement? His years as a community organizer perhaps? I know several women in their 80s that have done the same. Two that lean far enough to the left to make most Dems leary.
Obama has/had a potential to grow into a very good leader. In fifteen to twenty years I might have gladly voted for him.
If you want to look for bigotry look at your own statement "I could have told you your opinions pertaining to Obama's competence according to you age and color. Another foot soldier from your demographic still stuck with old America."
StressFree: I could have told you your opinions pertaining to Obama's competence according to you age and color. Another foot soldier from your demographic still stuck with old America.
I understand though and respect your difference of opinion. But I just think it's hilarious how really nobody under 40 ever comes into the political threads to criticize Obama.
I understand though and respect your difference of opinion. But I just think it's hilarious how really nobody under 40 ever comes into the political threads to criticize Obama.
Stress....Teddy Kennedy supported Barack Obama.....he does not fit your demographic...but I would call Teddy....Old America
THE NEW AMERICA!!!!!!!!!
BrunoMcMahon: How about telling me what in Mr. Obama's history qualifies him for office instead of citing your theroy on demographics?
So far all I hear amounts to "He's not George Bush". That arguement holds for several hundred million other unqualified people in this country too.
Can you offer anything better for an arguement? His years as a community organizer perhaps? I know several women in their 80s that have done the same. Two that lean far enough to the left to make most Dems leary.
Obama has/had a potential to grow into a very good leader. In fifteen to twenty years I might have gladly voted for him.
If you want to look for bigotry look at your own statement "I could have told you your opinions pertaining to Obama's competence according to you age and color. Another foot soldier from your demographic still stuck with old America."
So far all I hear amounts to "He's not George Bush". That arguement holds for several hundred million other unqualified people in this country too.
Can you offer anything better for an arguement? His years as a community organizer perhaps? I know several women in their 80s that have done the same. Two that lean far enough to the left to make most Dems leary.
Obama has/had a potential to grow into a very good leader. In fifteen to twenty years I might have gladly voted for him.
If you want to look for bigotry look at your own statement "I could have told you your opinions pertaining to Obama's competence according to you age and color. Another foot soldier from your demographic still stuck with old America."
Theory on demographics? Perhaps you have not seen the charts?
According to what I have observed by the posts of men in your demographic and your posts in particular in this forum, I think I made a logical and correct assessment.
The NFL broke away from the tradition of hiring recycled old coaches who had "experience" and continually failed in their jobs. The new coaches that were hired brought in fresh approaches to the game and enjoyed success.
Change over experience is a good formula when the experienced formula becomes exhausted in it's repetitive ways.
Of course a very competent individual must have a great vision for change in order for it to work. Obama has that. Do I need to write out a long and drawn out post?
Experience can be over-rated. Electing the same people who do the same things with an outdated formula in a modern world does not cut it. America voted for change. Fact.
ttom500: Stress....Teddy Kennedy supported Barack Obama.....he does not fit your demographic...but I would call Teddy....Old America
According to percentages...
Never said every single individual in that demographic.
StressFree:
Change over experience is a good formula when the experienced formula becomes exhausted in it's repetitive ways.
Of course a very competent individual must have a great vision for change in order for it to work. Obama has that. Do I need to write out a long and drawn out post?
Experience can be over-rated. Electing the same people who do the same things with an outdated formula in a modern world does not cut it. America voted for change. Fact.
Change over experience is a good formula when the experienced formula becomes exhausted in it's repetitive ways.
Of course a very competent individual must have a great vision for change in order for it to work. Obama has that. Do I need to write out a long and drawn out post?
Experience can be over-rated. Electing the same people who do the same things with an outdated formula in a modern world does not cut it. America voted for change. Fact.
So he has no qualifications through experience but a great marketing campaign.
Would you pick a surgeon based on the same criteria?
America voted for change. Unspecified but well hyped change. Trade your car for one twenty years older with a blown transmission and a rotting sheep in the trunk. It’s change. It MUST be good: right?
Many Americans spent hundreds, even thousands on fads like Cabbage Patch Kids, Rubics Cubes and Beanie Babies. All were very well marketed. Later people realized they had been sold a dream not anything of substance.
Neither political party has offered much in the way of substance for many decades. We’re being sold a dream by both parties and people get very cranky if you try to wake them from their slumber.
Partisan bickering is a great thing. People get fighting over smoke and mirrors and miss what is really going on around them. It is a fantastic thing to happen in a country.
Just not for that countries citizens.
StressFree: According to percentages...
Never said every single individual in that demographic.
Never said every single individual in that demographic.
You know Stress, you personally are a pretty unique example of America demographics. When you started out playing baseball....you were likely in the little leagues with some 200,000 other American youths. Each one of those had the dream to make to the Majors.
You made it to triple A ball. One step away from the Majors. If I am doing my old fashion slide rule right...less that 1000 ball players are in triple A in a ears time. So you went from being 1 in 200,000 to 1 in > 1000.
Want to know the odds of any one of those 200,000 playing to the triple A level is? 1 in 200 or less than.5% (consider that at triple A many are from foreign countries) is what my slide rule kicks out.
To get there, you have to have very good American coaching, spent hours in the batting cages, likely played on some the best groomed baseball fields in the country. Then when you made pro....it was a club owner that saw your potential as a player that signed you to a contract.
That old American club owner took a big business risk even to own that ball club that employed you. Those well groomed ball parks were cut and lined by old American men, just wanting to see young men playing the game. Those old American coaches that taught you the game, they just wanted to a young man play it little better than they did at one time. Those old American batting cage attendants kept the cages open an extra hour or so....for you to get a few extra swings in.
Don't get me wrong, Stress....you put a lot of hard work into your career to get it where it went. But you did not get there alone....a lot of old American men...helped you along the path.
ttom500: Don't get me wrong, Stress....you put a lot of hard work into your career to get it where it went. But you did not get there alone....a lot of old American men...helped you along the path.
I wonder how many players make it to the majors after half a season in the minors?
Seems rather a long shot if the managers are thinking rather than dreaming.
ttom500: You know Stress, you personally are a pretty unique example of America demographics. When you started out playing baseball....you were likely in the little leagues with some 200,000 other American youths. Each one of those had the dream to make to the Majors.
You made it to triple A ball. One step away from the Majors. If I am doing my old fashion slide rule right...less that 1000 ball players are in triple A in a ears time. So you went from being 1 in 200,000 to 1 in > 1000.
Want to know the odds of any one of those 200,000 playing to the triple A level is? 1 in 200 or less than.5% (consider that at triple A many are from foreign countries) is what my slide rule kicks out.
To get there, you have to have very good American coaching, spent hours in the batting cages, likely played on some the best groomed baseball fields in the country. Then when you made pro....it was a club owner that saw your potential as a player that signed you to a contract.
That old American club owner took a big business risk even to own that ball club that employed you. Those well groomed ball parks were cut and lined by old American men, just wanting to see young men playing the game. Those old American coaches that taught you the game, they just wanted to a young man play it little better than they did at one time. Those old American batting cage attendants kept the cages open an extra hour or so....for you to get a few extra swings in.
Don't get me wrong, Stress....you put a lot of hard work into your career to get it where it went. But you did not get there alone....a lot of old American men...helped you along the path.
You made it to triple A ball. One step away from the Majors. If I am doing my old fashion slide rule right...less that 1000 ball players are in triple A in a ears time. So you went from being 1 in 200,000 to 1 in > 1000.
Want to know the odds of any one of those 200,000 playing to the triple A level is? 1 in 200 or less than.5% (consider that at triple A many are from foreign countries) is what my slide rule kicks out.
To get there, you have to have very good American coaching, spent hours in the batting cages, likely played on some the best groomed baseball fields in the country. Then when you made pro....it was a club owner that saw your potential as a player that signed you to a contract.
That old American club owner took a big business risk even to own that ball club that employed you. Those well groomed ball parks were cut and lined by old American men, just wanting to see young men playing the game. Those old American coaches that taught you the game, they just wanted to a young man play it little better than they did at one time. Those old American batting cage attendants kept the cages open an extra hour or so....for you to get a few extra swings in.
Don't get me wrong, Stress....you put a lot of hard work into your career to get it where it went. But you did not get there alone....a lot of old American men...helped you along the path.
They sure did Tom...the coaches who were young and old did help me with my game which made me a better ballplayer mentally and physically. I still speak with my college hitting instructor these days.
Actually, it is scouts who take the risk of signing players. They have authority to do so and only need the approval of the owner of the organization for players in the first 5 rounds usually.
Not sure what point you were trying to make Tom. There are many things to learn from older people and younger people. However, in the context of this conversation, I strongly feel that the old establishment has run it's course. There comes a time when the elder will learn some lessons from the younger ones
BrunoMcMahon: Still can't read can you Dud?
No idea who "Sinclair" is. Is he real or one of your pretendy friends?
No matter say hi for me and buy him a grape slushy.
You want a picture?
Fine, here is one where I was feeling as giddy as a goa:
No idea who "Sinclair" is. Is he real or one of your pretendy friends?
No matter say hi for me and buy him a grape slushy.
You want a picture?
Fine, here is one where I was feeling as giddy as a goa:
is this really a picture of you?
Well.........
Have you seen Batman with Danny devtio in? you sure look like Pingvin in that movie! You should becoming a star dude playing the evil one or some thing........!
What makes you mad? It can not be Obama winning the election only can it?
Nah it aint you........... You would rather keep faceless in here I bet. Why ? I have some guesses but I am not gonna tell
ttom500: Please tell us how a Obama speech to the IL State Senate is relevant to his 2002 position on Iraq? If you understand our multi layers of gov't....not likely that Obama talked of the Iraq war in the IL State Senate. He might have since IL National Guard units are there.....but still....better forums to lay out a position on
the Iraq war...like a anti war rally in Chicago
So Read the damn text Spinnywinny! the Iraq war...like a anti war rally in Chicago
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