While you are viewing this, do look to the side and check out the Hamas videos of training their children to do jihad through plays and even Mickey Mouse stories. There are also videos there of Hamas literally grabbing a child by the arm and pulling him over to be a human shield. In another video, it is shown rounding up the children to be a a human shield around some guy's home.
Before you bash the Israelis with the Pallywood videos, do also take a view of some of the Hamas training videos I viewed from right off of the you.tube web site you posted.
little lady your just full of anger who would want to near you your cold bitter person someone to stay clear from it may be contagious
chris27292729: THE FICTION CALLED PALESTINE....what is the non FICTION Conrad???
I have to agree about what Mark Twain (Aka Samuel Clemens) wrote about Israel. That is indeed true. Mark Twain said it was a place that he never wanted to visit again. The Jewish people - Israel - made it into the place worth visiting with their hard work and sacrifice. Who else really would have wanted the land before? Nobody. And, by the way, Mark Twain was from MISSOURI.
LucieLynn: I have to agree about what Mark Twain (Aka Samuel Clemens) wrote about Israel. That is indeed true. Mark Twain said it was a place that he never wanted to visit again. The Jewish people - Israel - made it into the place worth visiting with their hard work and sacrifice. Who else really would have wanted the land before? Nobody. And, by the way, Mark Twain was from MISSOURI.
Okay - I'll correct myself, I meant what Mark Twain wrote about Palestine. He didn't ever want to go back to Palestine before it became Israel. Happy?
BTW Aspen, if you don't want to hear what people say on a forum regarding Gaza, then don't set up a poll and ask for opinions. You obviously don't want anyone else's opinion unless it agrees only with yours. Otherwise, you wouldn't be getting so upset.
aspen12portage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
LILLYLADY: BTW Aspen, if you don't want to hear what people say on a forum regarding Gaza, then don't set up a poll and ask for opinions. You obviously don't want anyone else's opinion unless it agrees only with yours. Otherwise, you wouldn't be getting so upset.
I KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT GAZA BUT I DONT POLL FOR ME BUT OTHERS I LIKE PEOPLE TALKING TO EACH OTHER I JUST ONE INSIGNIFICT PERSON JUST AS GRAINS IN A SAND BOX .BUT I DO KNOW ABOUT HATE BUDA SAID OF CAST IT AWAY IT THAT OF HOT COALS YOU ARE THE ONE WHO WILL BE BURNED.ONLY THING IS MURDERING OF INNOCENT CHILDREN AND PINING MEDALS ON SUCH BABY KILLERS
There was another post of mine before this one you just answer,about your ancestors page 6 , be a good girl and answer it.
LucieLynn: I have to agree about what Mark Twain (Aka Samuel Clemens) wrote about Israel. That is indeed true. Mark Twain said it was a place that he never wanted to visit again. The Jewish people - Israel - made it into the place worth visiting with their hard work and sacrifice. Who else really would have wanted the land before? Nobody. And, by the way, Mark Twain was from MISSOURI.
aspen12portage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
LILLYLADY: BTW Aspen, if you don't want to hear what people say on a forum regarding Gaza, then don't set up a poll and ask for opinions. You obviously don't want anyone else's opinion unless it agrees only with yours. Otherwise, you wouldn't be getting so upset.
UPSET IAM NOT SADDEN YES AND FOR THESE VIDEOS IAM ON DIAL UP AND IT TAKES HOURS TO DOWN LOAD NEVER SEEN ONE.WE SEE BOTH SIDES HERE THATS GOOD NOT LIKE PAPPER OR TV YOUR FREE TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT THOUSANDS WATCH AND FORM THEIR OWN OPINIONS IAM JUST ONE
aspen12portage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
LILLYLADY: BTW Aspen, if you don't want to hear what people say on a forum regarding Gaza, then don't set up a poll and ask for opinions. You obviously don't want anyone else's opinion unless it agrees only with yours. Otherwise, you wouldn't be getting so upset.
UPSET IAM NOT SADDEN YES AND FOR THESE VIDEOS IAM ON DIAL UP AND IT TAKES HOURS TO DOWN LOAD NEVER SEEN ONE.WE SEE BOTH SIDES HERE THATS GOOD NOT LIKE PAPPER OR TV YOUR FREE TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT THOUSANDS WATCH AND FORM THEIR OWN OPINIONS IAM JUST ONE
Sir, if you are able to get a website and finally view a video, then you can literally just click over on one of the videos on the right side of the screen and you will be able to view another video without the long hours wait. It will not take hours to download when it is right there.
All of us are only grains in the dessert of life so to speak. But none of us are insignificant Aspen as it takes many grains of sand to make up a viable dessert. There is life in the dessert ya know.
Obviously, you think deeply on a subject as most of us do and look to find out what others feel. I am giving my opinion also. An opposite opinion should not be misconstrued to think that you are being attacked. Sometimes people may give you an opposite view and also try to prove that the sites you may get your information from may not be reliable to begin with.
Albertaghost: This was a question for Lilly, hope you don't mind if I jump in for a second to give my condemnation for using children as human shields by all.
So, seems we are both in agreement then, like you, I condemn the individual soldiers who commit this act as it certainly is not in line with Israeli state policy and, like me I'm sure, you condemn the elected government of Palestinians as well as the majority of Palestinians who elected this government for enacting the actions of using human shields as state policy for conducting military operations.
Do you agree?
Very good point made Alberta.
Anonymous: I did not ignore the pictures of Israeli soldiers but you chose to ignore the pics of the Hamas soldiers doing the same type of atrocities and therefore you gave an unbalanced bias. When you want an opinion from the CSers, it would be much more appropriate to at least present the same atrocity from both sides so as CSers could see each video to give a more fair opinion on your topic question that you asked. So which brings to mind now is "What was your point for ignoring the Hamas cruelty"? Were you seeking a one sided opinion that agrees with yours or was it just an honest error on your part?
aspen12portage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
LILLYLADY: Sir, if you are able to get a website and finally view a video, then you can literally just click over on one of the videos on the right side of the screen and you will be able to view another video without the long hours wait. It will not take hours to download when it is right there.
All of us are only grains in the dessert of life so to speak. But none of us are insignificant Aspen as it takes many grains of sand to make up a viable dessert. There is life in the dessert ya know.
Obviously, you think deeply on a subject as most of us do and look to find out what others feel. I am giving my opinion also. An opposite opinion should not be misconstrued to think that you are being attacked. Sometimes people may give you an opposite view and also try to prove that the sites you may get your information from may not be reliable to begin with.
opinions are okay i dont have a monopoly on the truth.What i wantis peole to think.We are to eager to kill why dont try to understand each other no one is better than another all ourblood is red .religion divides walls divide we are right you are wrong
I heard tear down your walls at same time building.us president
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
aspen12: opinions are okay i dont have a monopoly on the truth.
An understatement to say the least.
aspen12: What i wantis peole to think.We are to eager to kill why dont try to understand each other
I believe that there is the small problem of the official policy of the Palestinians to destroy Israel. As there is no official policy stating a similar action by Israel (and in fact, in their declaration of independence they call for Palestinians and Arabs to join with them in peace and prosperity) we can extrapolate that this might be the main stumbling block as it was in force prior to any question of refugees, occupied territories, human rights abuses, human shields etc.
If you remove this death wish, peace is far more likely to follow.
aspen12portage la prarie, Manitoba Canada528 posts
Albertaghost: An understatement to say the least. I believe that there is the small problem of the official policy of the Palestinians to destroy Israel. As there is no official policy stating a similar action by Israel (and in fact, in their declaration of independence they call for Palestinians and Arabs to join with them in peace and prosperity) we can extrapolate that this might be the main stumbling block as it was in force prior to any question of refugees, occupied territories, human rights abuses, human shields etc.
If you remove this death wish, peace is far more likely to follow.
once again i will die before iwill take your freedom
Albertaghost: This was a question for Lilly, hope you don't mind if I jump in for a second to give my condemnation for using children as human shields by all.
So, seems we are both in agreement then, like you, I condemn the individual soldiers who commit this act as it certainly is not in line with Israeli state policy and, like me I'm sure, you condemn the elected government of Palestinians as well as the majority of Palestinians who elected this government for enacting the actions of using human shields as state policy for conducting military operations.
Do you agree?
You saw a video of Israeli soldiers using children as human shields, you say that's certainly not inline with Israeli state policy.
If it is not official Israeli policy for Israeli soldiers to use children as human shields....
PROVE IT!
I can prove it happens, it's up to you to prove your point.
The following videos were filmed over a course of years.
Israeli Soldiers using Palestinians as Human Shields
This is also a good video for the person who commented on the Israelis going to a worthless place nobody wanted, and doing something with the land. They went into a fruitful land, and made it barren.
Anybody who uses a child, or citizen as a human shield, is a terrorist, and a war criminal.
They should all be executed as war criminals, this includes people who are members of Hamas; and, any Israeli soldiers including the ones who were caught doing it on tape.
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
anonymous1: You saw a video of Israeli soldiers using children as human shields, you say that's certainly not inline with Israeli state policy.
If it is not official Israeli policy for Israeli soldiers to use children as human shields....
PROVE IT!
Can't prove a negative.
anonymous1: They should all be executed as war criminals, this includes people who are members of Hamas; and, any Israeli soldiers including the ones who were caught doing it on tape.
Do we all agree?.
Execution? A bit harsh don't you think? Maybe a few years in jail perhaps but, seeing as how it is the official policy of Hamas, who were elected by a majority of Palestinians, would this mean that all Palestinians would be executed or thrown in jail?
Hamas MP Fathi Hammad (29 February 2008) on Hamas' al-Aqsa television station.
Fathi Hammad: "[The enemies of Allah] do not know that the Palestinian people has developed its of death and death-seeking. For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry, at which women excel, and so do all the people living on this land. The elderly excel at this, and so do the mujahideen and the children. This is why they have formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly, and the mujahideen, in order to challenge the Zionist bombing machine. It is as if they were saying to the Zionist enemy: "We desire death like you desire life."
Right now Israel is the worst bunch of terrorists in the world today. They not only attacked Gaza but in the past they also raided Lebanon and left 1000's dead. They continue with the worst apartheid by any Government against the Palestnian peoples yet it goes unreported here because our lying press is controlled by zionist here. So the answer is absolutely not.
Albertaghost: I know it happens but the point is, it is not a matter of state policy whereas in the Palestinian case, it is.
Big difference.
I posted videos of Israeli soldiers using children, and civilian human shields; for long periods of time, over many years.
The reason you can't prove what you say, is true... is because it's a lie.
The time periods those videos cover, and many instances of Israeli soldiers using children as human shields.... are default proof that it is the official position of the Israeli army; you can't offer any evidence it's not.
You have not offered one word, other than your opinion which you admit you can't prove.... to dispute many years of video evidence showing Israeli soldiers using children as human sheilds. RLMFAO!!!
There's a big difference between somebody being able to prove what they say, and someone who knows better than to even try.
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