do you believe isreal should have attacked Gaza in operation cast lead (831)
aspen12: of course they will the us backs them and gaza is all fenced in like fish in a barrel. o what a battle
Got a Cousin named Birchie?
Conrad73: Got a Cousin named Birchie?
I doubt it. Although it is statistically improblable to have two really dumb guys who try the same Socratic method of winning a battle of the wits without having any wits or background information but, it is uncanny to say the least. Maybe they have a knot lock going on and they are passing time until the swelling subsides trading Joo hate and such. Sort of like twins locked in a basement for years inventing their own language.
Thankfully both are lightweight in the extreme sense as I'd hate to actually do some difficult research to counter their idiocy.
Albertaghost: I doubt it. Although it is statistically improblable to have two really dumb guys who try the same Socratic method of winning a battle of the wits without having any wits or background information but, it is uncanny to say the least. Maybe they have a knot lock going on and they are passing time until the swelling subsides trading Joo hate and such. Sort of like twins locked in a basement for years inventing their own language.
Thankfully both are lightweight in the extreme sense as I'd hate to actually do some difficult research to counter their idiocy.
Was just a thought that crossed my mind,noticing the Similarities!Thankfully both are lightweight in the extreme sense as I'd hate to actually do some difficult research to counter their idiocy.
strict: i think people are hypersensitive about Isreals affairs
I can't agree with that.
I think people (including governments) are afraid to criticize Israel for fear of reprisals. Israel has a worldwide "hidden hand" capable of bringing down governments and economies.
Israel gets away with atrocities that any other nation would get strongly sanctioned (or invaded) for.
Albertaghost: Hardly. Israel didn't have half as many guns as the Arabs did in 1947/8.
Not so fast there casper.
Israel didn't exist in 1947. It was Palestine. The jews were newly arrived invaders. And they outgunned the Arabs 4 to 1 in the area they intended to steal. The British left a lot of weapons and fortifications. The Arab nations had to attack across miles of desert. Plus the Jews were completely militarized whereas the Arabs were just civilians who had been called up. And finally, the jews had the most modern weapons that they western powers could provide whereas the Arabs had a lot of old WW1 weapons.
Militarily, the Jews had the high ground.
LucieLynn: Yes. Indeed
Yes. Indeed, many Palestinians there prior to 1920 were Jewish living there for centuries.
Yes. Indeed, many Palestinians there prior to 1920 were Jewish living there for centuries.
Yes, among the palestinians there were a lot of Jews and they got along fine with the arabs. It was newly arrived european jews (who are not even really genetically jewish for that matter) who brought zionism and the concepts of jewish superiority over all other ethnicities and who claimed a birthright ownership of Palestine based on their own mythology of events 4000 years ago.
Before anyone says or feels like saying anything about what goes on over in the Middle East(and that means bad or good), they should read a outstanding literary gem titled "Myths and Facts: A guide to the Arab-Israeli Conflict". It sells on Amazon.com for $10.17 and is written by a Mitchell G. Bard. It might, just might open that said persons mind to the realities that the Israelis face (and we don't), before that said person opens his uninformed pre-schooled mouth to spew out stuff that he/she knows nothing or little about. 
He/she must have been picking their noses when they were in school because, obviously, they really don't have a clue. I always know what I'm talking about before I open my mouth. Buy the book, read it and become informed. That way you won't get feedback on how idiotic you sound when you attempt to be intellgent and be insulted.
RayfromUSA: Yes, among the palestinians there were a lot of Jews and they got along fine with the arabs. It was newly arrived european jews (who are not even really genetically jewish for that matter) who brought zionism and the concepts of jewish superiority over all other ethnicities and who claimed a birthright ownership of Palestine based on their own mythology of events 4000 years ago.
Bet the Grand Mufti and Adolph were kind of peeved they got along so well!
Sorry, should have included this quote in the above. same link;
That's right Ray, no arms from the US - to Israel anyhow. Arabs got whatever they wanted.
In response to: Although the United States vigorously supported the partition resolution, the State Department did not want to provide the Jews with the means to defend themselves. "Otherwise," Undersecretary of State Robert Lovett argued, "the Arabs might use arms of U.S. origin against Jews, or Jews might use them against Arabs."14 Consequently, on December 5, 1947, the U.S. imposed an arms embargo on the region.
Many in the State Department saw the embargo as yet another means of obstructing partition. President Truman nevertheless went along with it hoping it would be a means of averting bloodshed. This was naive given Britain's rejection of Lovett's request to suspend weapons shipments to the Arabs and subsequent agreements to provide additional arms to Iraq and Transjordan.15
Many in the State Department saw the embargo as yet another means of obstructing partition. President Truman nevertheless went along with it hoping it would be a means of averting bloodshed. This was naive given Britain's rejection of Lovett's request to suspend weapons shipments to the Arabs and subsequent agreements to provide additional arms to Iraq and Transjordan.15
That's right Ray, no arms from the US - to Israel anyhow. Arabs got whatever they wanted.
aspen12: what others believe
They're our allies and part of western civilisation so
Yes
Yes
Yes
Conrad73: I suppose they gonna raise the Blood-Libel Issue soon!
Or call themselves cows again.
Moooooooo
Albertaghost: Or call themselves cows again.
Moooooooo
Yeah,they have some real Selfesteem-Issues!Moooooooo
Albertaghost: Or call themselves cows again.
Moooooooo
Strange,if they ain't Trees to be bssssst on,they become Cattle to be kicked!Moooooooo
Some real proud people!
Albertaghost: Don't blame 'em but seriously, hottest gals there were the Christian Arabs.
Mumma Mia!
They Migrate from israel to gaza Mumma Mia!
ali110: They Migrate from israel to gaza
You know where to go,Ali!All your problems are over!
ali110: They Migrate from israel to gaza
Nope. All over Israel - Nazareth, Tiberias, Tel Aviv Jerusalem they are there.
And I'm here
Memorable quote from the movie " You don`t mess with the Zohan"
Kevin McDonough: Where are you from anyway?
Zohan: Haustralia.
Kevin McDonough: Really, because you sound middle eastern.
Zohan: No no no, similar accent. Hangaroo.
Kevin McDonough: Where are you from anyway?
Zohan: Haustralia.
Kevin McDonough: Really, because you sound middle eastern.
Zohan: No no no, similar accent. Hangaroo.
Achmed the Dead Terrorist Quotes
"I Kill You!"
"I Kill You!"
Boban1: Achmed the Dead Terrorist Quotes
"I Kill You!"
How you manage with that Flesh-Wound?"I Kill You!"
bollywood: Really dont understand why contires thousands of miles away have such an interest in a small strip of land called Isreal.
Well, actually the strip of land is called Palestine which derives from it's ancient name Phillistia. Much later stateless nomads called "habiru" began to migrate there and, by sheer demographics, eventually outnumbered the population of the various civilizations who lived there. These "hebrews" invented a mythology about their origins and claimed that the entire area was theirs by divine right. (like every emerging culture does). It wasn't long before the Assyrians invaded and carried away 10 of the 13 tribes of the Israelite nation. That left only 3 tribes in a tiny mountain kingdom called Judah. The people of Judah were called Jews by the Babylonians to whom they were a vassal state. Judah began to rebel concerning its payments of tribute and the Babylonians destroyed the nation forever. Some Jews did return to Judah (mind you it is just the area directly around Jerusalem) and they had some degree of self rule in that area for some time, but they were always vassals to the Persians, Greeks, Egyptians, and finally the Romans. When they tried to rebel against Rome, the nation was destroyed forever. Judah (the jews) never ever had authority over the territory now called Israel. Their authority never exceeded the area of Judah (known as Judea under the Romans). So the Jews have neither a legal, nor a historical claim to all of Palestine (Phillistia). According to their own mythological "history" they even stole Judah from the indigenous Canaanites.
What's more the modern Zionist state that calls itself Israel has no real link to the ancient kingdom of Israel (destroyed by the Assyrians several hundred years before Christ, nor even to the genuine "Jews" of the tiny mountain kingdom of Judah. The Jews of Eastern Europe were Khazars who converted to Judaism in the middle ages.
So, based on the facts:
- The ancient "Jews" were confined to a very small area around Jerusalem.
- They never ever controlled the geographic area called Israel today.
- The Palestinians are the indigenous descendants of the Phillistines who did indeed control all the coastal plains from Gaza to Lebanon and eastward to the Jordan valley and the foothills of the Golan heights.
the invasion of Palestine by the zionist pseudo-jews after world war 2 can only be seen as an invasive massacre of indigenous people by a multinational foreign force.
It is only natural that the locals defend their territory as best they can. And it is only natural that other nations intervene to help them resist foreign invasion.
The world would have already acted to restore Palestine to the Palestinians except for the former power of the US. Now as that power transfers to China, Russia, India, and other nations the US will be under increasing pressure to comply with the globalist policies of its new masters. And globalism has no place for ethnic supremacist policies like Zionism.
It is clear that the Zionists have no intention of submitting peacefully to majority rule over the area territory. So, as Jesus himself predicted, it will eventually lead to a very bloody multinational invasion of Jerusalem and all Judea.
The Christian crusaders held the area for 200 years before the Palestinians took it back. The Khazar/Jews have held the area for only about 60 years, and only with the help of the world's only superpower at the time. That super-power is now the world's brokest nation and is slowly but surely falling into an extreme depression.
The handwriting is on the wall for the Zionist state.
RayfromUSA: Well, actually the strip of land is called Palestine which derives from it's ancient name Phillistia. Much later stateless nomads called "habiru" began to migrate there and, by sheer demographics, eventually outnumbered the population of the various civilizations who lived there. These "hebrews" invented a mythology about their origins and claimed that the entire area was theirs by divine right. (like every emerging culture does). It wasn't long before the Assyrians invaded and carried away 10 of the 13 tribes of the Israelite nation. That left only 3 tribes in a tiny mountain kingdom called Judah. The people of Judah were called Jews by the Babylonians to whom they were a vassal state. Judah began to rebel concerning its payments of tribute and the Babylonians destroyed the nation forever. Some Jews did return to Judah (mind you it is just the area directly around Jerusalem) and they had some degree of self rule in that area for some time, but they were always vassals to the Persians, Greeks, Egyptians, and finally the Romans. When they tried to rebel against Rome, the nation was destroyed forever. Judah (the jews) never ever had authority over the territory now called Israel. Their authority never exceeded the area of Judah (known as Judea under the Romans). So the Jews have neither a legal, nor a historical claim to all of Palestine (Phillistia). According to their own mythological "history" they even stole Judah from the indigenous Canaanites.
What's more the modern Zionist state that calls itself Israel has no real link to the ancient kingdom of Israel (destroyed by the Assyrians several hundred years before Christ, nor even to the genuine "Jews" of the tiny mountain kingdom of Judah. The Jews of Eastern Europe were Khazars who converted to Judaism in the middle ages.
So, based on the facts:
- The ancient "Jews" were confined to a very small area around Jerusalem.
- They never ever controlled the geographic area called Israel today.
- The Palestinians are the indigenous descendants of the Phillistines who did indeed control all the coastal plains from Gaza to Lebanon and eastward to the Jordan valley and the foothills of the Golan heights.
the invasion of Palestine by the zionist pseudo-jews after world war 2 can only be seen as an invasive massacre of indigenous people by a multinational foreign force.
It is only natural that the locals defend their territory as best they can. And it is only natural that other nations intervene to help them resist foreign invasion.
The world would have already acted to restore Palestine to the Palestinians except for the former power of the US. Now as that power transfers to China, Russia, India, and other nations the US will be under increasing pressure to comply with the globalist policies of its new masters. And globalism has no place for ethnic supremacist policies like Zionism.
It is clear that the Zionists have no intention of submitting peacefully to majority rule over the area territory. So, as Jesus himself predicted, it will eventually lead to a very bloody multinational invasion of Jerusalem and all Judea.
The Christian crusaders held the area for 200 years before the Palestinians took it back. The Khazar/Jews have held the area for only about 60 years, and only with the help of the world's only superpower at the time. That super-power is now the world's brokest nation and is slowly but surely falling into an extreme depression.
The handwriting is on the wall for the Zionist state.
Making Frikkassee out of History again,hey Ray!What's more the modern Zionist state that calls itself Israel has no real link to the ancient kingdom of Israel (destroyed by the Assyrians several hundred years before Christ, nor even to the genuine "Jews" of the tiny mountain kingdom of Judah. The Jews of Eastern Europe were Khazars who converted to Judaism in the middle ages.
So, based on the facts:
- The ancient "Jews" were confined to a very small area around Jerusalem.
- They never ever controlled the geographic area called Israel today.
- The Palestinians are the indigenous descendants of the Phillistines who did indeed control all the coastal plains from Gaza to Lebanon and eastward to the Jordan valley and the foothills of the Golan heights.
the invasion of Palestine by the zionist pseudo-jews after world war 2 can only be seen as an invasive massacre of indigenous people by a multinational foreign force.
It is only natural that the locals defend their territory as best they can. And it is only natural that other nations intervene to help them resist foreign invasion.
The world would have already acted to restore Palestine to the Palestinians except for the former power of the US. Now as that power transfers to China, Russia, India, and other nations the US will be under increasing pressure to comply with the globalist policies of its new masters. And globalism has no place for ethnic supremacist policies like Zionism.
It is clear that the Zionists have no intention of submitting peacefully to majority rule over the area territory. So, as Jesus himself predicted, it will eventually lead to a very bloody multinational invasion of Jerusalem and all Judea.
The Christian crusaders held the area for 200 years before the Palestinians took it back. The Khazar/Jews have held the area for only about 60 years, and only with the help of the world's only superpower at the time. That super-power is now the world's brokest nation and is slowly but surely falling into an extreme depression.
The handwriting is on the wall for the Zionist state.
RayfromUSA: Judah (the jews) never ever had authority over the territory now called Israel. Their authority never exceeded the area of Judah (known as Judea under the Romans). So the Jews have neither a legal, nor a historical claim to all of Palestine (Phillistia).
Oh now I understand. Five million of them there now and they don't actually live there. They sort of lived in trailers way back when. Gotcha.
And Palestinians did live there ........... and they have a ..... deed ...... rent receipts ......... what?
Way to go Ray! You just solved the entire Middle East Problem!!!
Well, soon as we get those receipts anyhow.
If the Red Indians come to Missouri and claimed that Misouri was theirs 5 centuries ago,and declare land and property belongs to the Indians,and one way or the other you become a refugee,then you tell me how you will feel about it??? Hypothetical question of cource,unlikely to happen.-One more thing.- This is an international Forum,and we are not in front of teachers to check if are pronounciation is right or wrong.-As long the person is understood on his/her post,thats what the rest of us want.-
LucieLynn: By the way....It is spelled Israel and not Isreal. And it is pronounced Israaaa-el. Thanks.
Get your historical facts right.Prior to 1920 the Jewish living there were the vast minority as opposed to vast majority of the Palestinians Arabs.
LucieLynn: Yes. Indeed
Yes. Indeed, many Palestinians there prior to 1920 were Jewish living there for centuries.
Yes. Indeed, many Palestinians there prior to 1920 were Jewish living there for centuries.
Oh wow, Mister, you don't know anything about red indians in Missouri. Are you in Greece? I happen to be part Native American myself. Actually, Cherokee and Sak and Fox tribes in my blood. For your information Missouri was never owned by "red indians". Missouri, Saint Joseph, was the holiest land in this nation. It was the meeting place for all tribes to come together and be at peace and draw treaties. The bluffs on the Missouri River were sacred ground. And also, those ancestors of mine did not consider themselves capable of "owning" land. They BORROWED the land from their grandchildren....which I am one.
If you believe that, so be it.-
Albertaghost: That's right.
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We will do everything in our power to maintain peace, and establish a cooperation gainful to both [Jews and Arabs]. It is now, here and now, from Jerusalem itself, that a call must go out to the Arab nations to join forces with Jewry and the destined Jewish State and work shoulder to shoulder for our common good, for the peace and progress of sovereign equals.
On November 30, the day after the UN partition vote, the Jewish Agency announced: “The main theme behind the spontaneous celebrations we are witnessing today is our community's desire to seek peace and its determination to achieve fruitful cooperation with the Arabs....“
Israel's Proclamation of Independence, issued May 14, 1948, also invited the Palestinians to remain in their homes and become equal citizens in the new state:
In the midst of wanton aggression, we yet call upon the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel to preserve the ways of peace and play their part in the development of the State, on the basis of full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its bodies and institutions....We extend our hand in peace and neighborliness to all the neighboring states and their peoples, and invite them to cooperate with the independent Jewish nation for the common good of all.