What do you think about the Ark Encounter? (445)
Conrad73: Since you brought it up,it is upon you to prove it isn't!
So far you haven't done a very good Job of it!
And none of the Heavy-Weights are here to really take your Story apart!
So far you haven't done a very good Job of it!
And none of the Heavy-Weights are here to really take your Story apart!
ok no I wont... 
Hey C
EriK_tg: I don't understand what you're saying here. It sounds like you're regarding 'science' as some kind of force of nature that would be a direct cause of the Flood.
That doesn't make sense. Can you explain?
That doesn't make sense. Can you explain?
so you're saying that because scientific fact proves that the flood couldn't have occurred, it must be wrong, but that while there is nothing to prove it DID exist other than a book, then it must have happened??
i can see why you don't understand 
NCC1968: Could be.....I know or have known many ppl like that.....even used to be one myself, but got my head out
NC...
no matter if the truth & reality bit him
on the rump.. NONE..
not any of the facts, or reality put
forth to him by you guys is going to matter..
I remember when I was that young...
Like him.. you couldn't tell me anything,
I knew everything, and I was soooo smart...
Then I matured, and found out that the
older I got, the less I knew, and realized that
I, or want I wanted, believed, or desired
was NOT the center of the universe..
I'm outta here..
catch you fellas at another thread.....
---SoldierByte--- 
NCC1968: Right there...fist lines - no need to go any further as you've made my point. I've not denied god's power, but the fantasy that he would intentianlly throw us a curve ball of univeral proportions to allow for some ridiculous faith/s.I'm done.
It doesn't seem as if you understand what I've said. I get the feeling you think that I'm saying God "magically" made a bunch of water appear out of nowhere, and then "magically" made all the rocks and fossils appear as they are, and then "magically" made the water disappear.
That's not what I'm suggesting. There are extensive analyses of various potential mechanisms that have been done, and they are highly satisfying in a mechanistic (i.e. no random miracles) sense.
jampet: so you're saying that because scientific fact proves that the flood couldn't have occurred, it must be wrong, but that while there is nothing to prove it DID exist other than a book, then it must have happened?? i can see why you don't understand
No, I'm saying that his wording makes it seem as if he thinks "science," far from being a concept or process, is a physical entity capable of moving things. Do you believe that that's what science is?
SoldierByte: NC...
no matter if the truth & reality bit him
on the rump.. NONE..
not any of the facts, or reality put
forth to him by you guys is going to matter..
I remember when I was that young...
Like him.. you couldn't tell me anything,
I knew everything, and I was soooo smart...
Then I matured, and found out that the
older I got, the less I knew, and realized that
I, or want I wanted, believed, or desired
was NOT the center of the universe..
I'm outta here..
catch you fellas at another thread.....
---SoldierByte---
no matter if the truth & reality bit him
on the rump.. NONE..
not any of the facts, or reality put
forth to him by you guys is going to matter..
I remember when I was that young...
Like him.. you couldn't tell me anything,
I knew everything, and I was soooo smart...
Then I matured, and found out that the
older I got, the less I knew, and realized that
I, or want I wanted, believed, or desired
was NOT the center of the universe..
I'm outta here..
catch you fellas at another thread.....
---SoldierByte---
room for two?....awwwww hang on a minite im just relishing my own universe, I'll grow up soon
I promise
SS
jampet: No, I don't, but responsible people would do something other than just murder them...... when are you going to acknowledge that?
Imagine that there are 299 million of those people in the US (population 300 million), and that there's not enough room in the jails. They're ready to go on a burglaring, assaulting, terrorizing spree, and you have two options:
1. Defend yourself (will result in their deaths)
2. They kill you (and then themselves and the rest of the world)
God chose option 1--> He chose to preserve the righteous at the expense of the wicked.
Sorry, it is in Spanish but you will laugh at it!!!
PHD!!!!!!
EriK_tg: No, I'm saying that his wording makes it seem as if he thinks "science," far from being a concept or process, is a physical entity capable of moving things. Do you believe that that's what science is?
science is a method of proving why or how things happen, rather than just saying 'because god did it'... whether you call it 'magic' or a 'miracle' is irrelevant, just saying 'because I said so, or the bible said so' is the argument that 5 year olds use, because they have no real explanation.
SoldierByte: NC...
no matter if the truth & reality bit him
on the rump.. NONE..
not any of the facts, or reality put
forth to him by you guys is going to matter..
I remember when I was that young...
Like him.. you couldn't tell me anything,
I knew everything, and I was soooo smart...
Then I matured, and found out that the
older I got, the less I knew, and realized that
I, or want I wanted, believed, or desired
was NOT the center of the universe..
I'm outta here..
catch you fellas at another thread.....
---SoldierByte---
no matter if the truth & reality bit him
on the rump.. NONE..
not any of the facts, or reality put
forth to him by you guys is going to matter..
I remember when I was that young...
Like him.. you couldn't tell me anything,
I knew everything, and I was soooo smart...
Then I matured, and found out that the
older I got, the less I knew, and realized that
I, or want I wanted, believed, or desired
was NOT the center of the universe..
I'm outta here..
catch you fellas at another thread.....
---SoldierByte---
But you think you know enough to know that I don't know what you don't know? I don't appreciate the "older-than-thou" snobbery. Age does not wisdom make.
EriK_tg: There are extensive analyses of various potential mechanisms that have been done, and they are highly satisfying in a mechanistic (i.e. no random miracles) sense.
I'll give ya ONE shot to throw some GOOD science in...if ya can.
The earth is about 4 billion years old and the current geology and geogrphy is NOW as it was THEN at the time of the flood - only a handful of millennia ago.
Tell me how water rose up to a point to cover mountains and then left again since the earth was not and is not smooth and the volume of water on the earth varies little.
You can not allow for god "helping" nor break any known laws of physics or ignore the geological record.
If ya got a good one I'll be the first to say so.
lifeisadream: Sorry, it is in Spanish but you will laugh at it!!!
A "LONG drink of water"..
specially when one does not understand the language..
but hell..
I watched the whole damn thing and wound
up spitting my drink all over my darn screen..!!!
Girl..
lucky you did warn me..
I was ready to hit you..
thanks..
---SoldierByte--- EriK_tg: It doesn't seem as if you understand what I've said. I get the feeling you think that I'm saying God "magically" made a bunch of water appear out of nowhere, and then "magically" made all the rocks and fossils appear as they are, and then "magically" made the water disappear.
That's not what I'm suggesting. There are extensive analyses of various potential mechanisms that have been done, and they are highly satisfying in a mechanistic (i.e. no random miracles) sense.
all figured out by Creation-Scientists!That's not what I'm suggesting. There are extensive analyses of various potential mechanisms that have been done, and they are highly satisfying in a mechanistic (i.e. no random miracles) sense.
EriK_tg: Imagine that there are 299 million of those people in the US (population 300 million), and that there's not enough room in the jails. They're ready to go on a burglaring, assaulting, terrorizing spree, and you have two options:
1. Defend yourself (will result in their deaths)
2. They kill you (and then themselves and the rest of the world)
God chose option 1--> He chose to preserve the righteous at the expense of the wicked.
1. Defend yourself (will result in their deaths)
2. They kill you (and then themselves and the rest of the world)
God chose option 1--> He chose to preserve the righteous at the expense of the wicked.
I would like to think that any parent that had 300m children , and 299m of them were burglarising, terror spree/assaulting types,... would be for eternity be prevented from ever having any more children, since they obviously have zero parenting skills and extremely bad genes., rather than being allowed to murder all their children and start again!!so that argument is not only ridiculous but sooo childish, and since I only choose to have intelligent discussions with adults, I bid you goodnight
NCC1968: I'll give ya ONE shot to throw some GOOD science in...if ya can.
The earth is about 4 billion years old and the current geology and geogrphy is NOW as it was THEN at the time of the flood - only a handful of millennia ago.
Tell me how water rose up to a point to cover mountains and then left again since the earth was not and is not smooth and the volume of water on the earth varies little.
You can not allow for god "helping" nor break any known laws of physics or ignore the geological record.If ya got a good one I'll be the first to say so.
The earth is about 4 billion years old and the current geology and geogrphy is NOW as it was THEN at the time of the flood - only a handful of millennia ago.
Tell me how water rose up to a point to cover mountains and then left again since the earth was not and is not smooth and the volume of water on the earth varies little.
You can not allow for god "helping" nor break any known laws of physics or ignore the geological record.If ya got a good one I'll be the first to say so.
I see where your problem is.
You think a flood that covers the whole earth would for some reason NOT erode everything on the surface and redeposit it elsewhere. Would you like an explanation of why floods are catastrophic and not tranquil?
SoldierByte: A "LONG drink of water"..
specially when one does not understand the language..
but hell..
I watched the whole damn thing and wound
up spitting my drink all over my darn screen..!!!
Girl..
lucky you did warn me..
I was ready to hit you..
thanks..
---SoldierByte---
specially when one does not understand the language..
but hell..
I watched the whole damn thing and wound
up spitting my drink all over my darn screen..!!!
Girl..
lucky you did warn me..
I was ready to hit you..
thanks..
---SoldierByte---
On line Spanish Classes and Mexixan Culture as well.
I did try to find it in English but none and it was long to translate.
It is quite creative, Noha's Arch was not built in Mexico because so much bureaucracy
jampet: I would like to think that any parent that had 300m children , and 299m of them were burglarising, terror spree/assaulting types,... would be for eternity be prevented from ever having any more children, since they obviously have zero parenting skills and extremely bad genes., rather than being allowed to murder all their children and start again!!so that argument is not only ridiculous but sooo childish, and since I only choose to have intelligent discussions with adults, I bid you goodnight
You don't think a country should defend itself if another country wants to murder everyone in that country?
Guess I know where your morals lie.
(You're running into problems because you're trying to apply a double standard to God. God is just. Spend some time trying to figure out how to justly save a remnant of humanity from hundreds of millions of people whose only epithet says, "and the earth was filled with violence from them, and every thought on their minds was only evil, continually." Maybe you'll arrive at a conclusion that makes more sense)
Good luck
EriK_tg: I see where your problem is.
You think a flood that covers the whole earth would for some reason NOT erode everything on the surface and redeposit it elsewhere. Would you like an explanation of why floods are catastrophic and not tranquil?
you making like a Cat around the hot Mush!You think a flood that covers the whole earth would for some reason NOT erode everything on the surface and redeposit it elsewhere. Would you like an explanation of why floods are catastrophic and not tranquil?
So far all I have heard from you is a Bunch of assertions,and not one valid piece of Information!
Thought you were privy to all of it!
lifeisadream: On line Spanish Classes and Mexixan Culture as well.
I did try to find it in English but none and it was long to translate.
It is quite creative, Noha's Arch was not built in Mexico because so much bureaucracy
I did try to find it in English but none and it was long to translate.
It is quite creative, Noha's Arch was not built in Mexico because so much bureaucracy
well after the baby, when that darn lion started
talking to me I couldn't take it any more..
---SoldierByte--- jampet: oops= one last thing--- no, science can explain why it rains, and that is a basic, fairly understandable principle, that I think He gets!!
And it's because "science" is a man sitting in the clouds tossing down thunderbolts and pouring rain on people.
You make no sense. Have a good night.
EriK_tg: You don't think a country should defend itself if another country wants to murder everyone in that country?
Guess I know where your morals lie.
(You're running into problems because you're trying to apply a double standard to God. God is just. Spend some time trying to figure out how to justly save a remnant of humanity from hundreds of millions of people whose only epithet says, "and the earth was filled with violence from them, and every thought on their minds was only evil, continually." Maybe you'll arrive at a conclusion that makes more sense)
Good luck
You still need to prove that the Ark was able to be used for what you claim it was designed for!Guess I know where your morals lie.
(You're running into problems because you're trying to apply a double standard to God. God is just. Spend some time trying to figure out how to justly save a remnant of humanity from hundreds of millions of people whose only epithet says, "and the earth was filled with violence from them, and every thought on their minds was only evil, continually." Maybe you'll arrive at a conclusion that makes more sense)
Good luck
And where is it now?
Conrad73: you making like a Cat around the hot Mush!
So far all I have heard from you is a Bunch of assertions,and not one valid piece of Information!
Thought you were privy to all of it!
So far all I have heard from you is a Bunch of assertions,and not one valid piece of Information!
Thought you were privy to all of it!
You haven't asked me a single question. I posted a link a few pages back for those who have no questions to ask me but might still be curious to read some on their own time.
EriK_tg: And it's because "science" is a man sitting in the clouds tossing down thunderbolts and pouring rain on people.
You make no sense. Have a good night.
You make no sense. Have a good night.
Hmmm, read through a few posts have to say i admire your belief's but the way you relate to others is appalling.
Not everyone will think as you think, that gives you no right what so ever to belittle them.
This is where me and "preachers" come to battle...because you are no better than anyone posting here, so stop pretending you are.
Have a good weekend.Conrad73: You still need to prove that the Ark was able to be used for what you claim it was designed for!
And where is it now?
And where is it now?
If you want to see technical arguments, check out this link:
It's probably been destroyed a long time ago, considering that it was made of wood. I don't expect anyone to find it.
EriK_tg: I see where your problem is.
You think a flood that covers the whole earth would for some reason NOT erode everything on the surface and redeposit it elsewhere. Would you like an explanation of why floods are catastrophic and not tranquil?
You think a flood that covers the whole earth would for some reason NOT erode everything on the surface and redeposit it elsewhere. Would you like an explanation of why floods are catastrophic and not tranquil?
Thanks for the answer.....I do indeed understand now -
- that you simply are not equipped to debate at this level...and probably do not know you are not.
EriK_tg: You talk like someone who thinks he has knowledge.
You were right to put "know" in quotes, because you've shown yourself to be quite ignorant. Borderline trolling at this point.
You were right to put "know" in quotes, because you've shown yourself to be quite ignorant. Borderline trolling at this point.
You are tangling with the wrong one,Sunshine!
Amity: Hmmm, read through a few posts have to say i admire your belief's but the way you relate to others is appalling.
Not everyone will think as you think, that gives you no right what so ever to belittle them.
This is where me and "preachers" come to battle...because you are no better than anyone posting here, so stop pretending you are.
Have a good weekend.
Not everyone will think as you think, that gives you no right what so ever to belittle them.
This is where me and "preachers" come to battle...because you are no better than anyone posting here, so stop pretending you are.
Have a good weekend.
Did you miss the way she spoke to me? She refused to understand me and kept insisting that I was making ignorant statements that I was not. I find that incredibly disrespectful and I will rebuke such behavior.
EriK_tg: If you want to see technical arguments, check out this link: probably been destroyed a long time ago, considering that it was made of wood. I don't expect anyone to find it.
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God can do anything in the sense that He has unrestrained creative/transmutive/locomotive/destructive power over all matter and energy. .
Right there...fist lines - no need to go any further as you've made my point.
I've not denied god's power, but the fantasy that he would intentianlly throw us a curve ball of univeral proportions to allow for some ridiculous faith/s.
I'm done.