What do you think about the Ark Encounter? (445)

Dec 4, 2010 2:51 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
jampet
jampetjampetwexford, Wexford Ireland28 Threads 1 Polls 2,549 Posts
Conrad73: But it can't be on the Land and in the Ocean at the same time! Earth Sciences question: How much water is there in the ocean? There are about 1344420000 cubic kilometers or about 342543511 cubic miles of water in the Oceans.wiki.answers.com/.../How_much_water_is_there_in_the_ocean
There are about 1,344,420,000 cubic kilometers or about 342,543,511 cubic miles of water in the oceans of the world, according to an estimate by NOAA. Some other estimates are a bit lower, and others a bit higher. Anyway, that's so much water that it is almost impossible to comprehend how much it is. It's about 1.34442 x 1021 liters, or about 3.55158 x 1020 gallons. Any way you cut it, that's a lot of water.


seriously- he could work that out?laugh
Dec 4, 2010 2:51 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
bodleing: Who said I was an atheist?

Apart from RD...but what does he know!!!Scottish git


That's you definately OFF my Xmas Card list ......snooty snooty

tongue grin
Dec 4, 2010 2:52 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
Conrad73: But it can't be on the Land and in the Ocean at the same time! Earth Sciences question: How much water is there in the ocean? There are about 1344420000 cubic kilometers or about 342543511 cubic miles of water in the Oceans.wiki.answers.com/.../How_much_water_is_there_in_the_ocean
There are about 1,344,420,000 cubic kilometers or about 342,543,511 cubic miles of water in the oceans of the world, according to an estimate by NOAA. Some other estimates are a bit lower, and others a bit higher. Anyway, that's so much water that it is almost impossible to comprehend how much it is. It's about 1.34442 x 1021 liters, or about 3.55158 x 1020 gallons. Any way you cut it, that's a lot of water.


There's also a considerable amount of water underground.
Dec 4, 2010 2:53 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
jampet
jampetjampetwexford, Wexford Ireland28 Threads 1 Polls 2,549 Posts
RDM59: That's you definately OFF my Xmas Card list ......


ah don't mind him... jealousy is such an unattractive qualitylaugh hi G!!laugh
Dec 4, 2010 2:55 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Conrad73: But it can't be on the Land and in the Ocean at the same time! Earth Sciences question: How much water is there in the ocean? There are about 1344420000 cubic kilometers or about 342543511 cubic miles of water in the Oceans.wiki.answers.com/.../How_much_water_is_there_in_the_ocean
There are about 1,344,420,000 cubic kilometers or about 342,543,511 cubic miles of water in the oceans of the world, according to an estimate by NOAA. Some other estimates are a bit lower, and others a bit higher. Anyway, that's so much water that it is almost impossible to comprehend how much it is. It's about 1.34442 x 1021 liters, or about 3.55158 x 1020 gallons. Any way you cut it, that's a lot of water.



About right grin angel devil cool cool cool cool
Dec 4, 2010 2:55 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
Mr5cott
Mr5cottMr5cottSanta Rosa, California USA27 Posts
Ahem...Helmet for??? dunno
Dec 4, 2010 2:58 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
RDM59: That's you definately OFF my Xmas Card list ......


Gutted...moping

Off to the pub to drown my sorrows.cheers


grin
Dec 4, 2010 2:59 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
Mr5cott: Ahem...Helmet for???


Oh gosh? when the ark is raising up through the stormy vigorous waters wouldn't you want some thing to protect you..grin

cool rolling on the floor laughing

help
Soph
handshake
Dec 4, 2010 3:00 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
jampet: ah don't mind him... jealousy is such an unattractive quality hi G!!


Hi jamp...never trust a man who eats deep fried mars bars...that's my motto.professor


laugh
Dec 4, 2010 3:00 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
bodleing: Gutted...

Off to the pub to drown my sorrows.


Can I come tooblues hug teddybear
Soph
Dec 4, 2010 3:00 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
bodleing: Gutted...

Off to the pub to drown my sorrows.


If only water were beersigh
Dec 4, 2010 3:01 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
tomcatwarne: About right
You measured it?laugh
Dec 4, 2010 3:02 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
bodleing: Hi jamp...never trust a man who eats deep fried mars bars...that's my motto.


Jees I have them microedgrin angel devil
Dec 4, 2010 3:02 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
jampet
jampetjampetwexford, Wexford Ireland28 Threads 1 Polls 2,549 Posts
bodleing: Hi jamp...never trust a man who eats deep fried mars bars...that's my motto.


never tried one myself , .deep fried pizza or black pudding supper....now that's a different storylaugh hijack
Dec 4, 2010 3:02 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Conrad73: You measured it?

Naa just did a quick calculation on my scratch pad.grin angel devil
Dec 4, 2010 3:03 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
Mr5cott
Mr5cottMr5cottSanta Rosa, California USA27 Posts
Oh sorry, I thought it was in reference to exploring caves.
Dec 4, 2010 3:04 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
jampet
jampetjampetwexford, Wexford Ireland28 Threads 1 Polls 2,549 Posts
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Conrad73: You measured it?


No. NOAA did ( though if he can't even spell his own name, I doubt his statistical accuracy is up to parlaugh
Dec 4, 2010 3:04 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
sophiasummer: Can I come too
Soph


Of course, but you'd better get a shift on...last orders at 1am.

motorcycle


cheers
Dec 4, 2010 3:04 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
Mr5cott
Mr5cottMr5cottSanta Rosa, California USA27 Posts
Deep fried pizza? that's a new one to me. Perhaps a cultural thing
Dec 4, 2010 3:05 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Since I don't live that many miles from where it's going to be built It would be neat to see.
Dec 4, 2010 3:05 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
tomcatwarne: Naa just did a quick calculation on my scratch pad.


the root of 9 isssssssssssssss professor

head banger rolling on the floor laughing
Dec 4, 2010 3:05 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
RDM59
RDM59RDM59Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland UK92 Threads 5 Polls 14,070 Posts
bodleing: Hi jamp...never trust a man who eats deep fried mars bars...that's my motto.


snooty ..... May the hound relieve himself upon your shoes ....tongue
Dec 4, 2010 3:06 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
tomcatwarne: If only water were beer


Yep...bathtime would be quite an occasion.laugh


cheers
Dec 4, 2010 3:06 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
Mr5cott
Mr5cottMr5cottSanta Rosa, California USA27 Posts
The pub sounds like a great idea! will opt however for my pint here in front of my woodstove.
Dec 4, 2010 3:06 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
jampet
jampetjampetwexford, Wexford Ireland28 Threads 1 Polls 2,549 Posts
Mr5cott: Deep fried pizza? that's a new one to me. Perhaps a cultural thing

only ever saw it in a place i worked in , in Glasgow many moons ago- heart attack on a plate, but if you like your food dripping in fat, then you're sorted!!laugh
Dec 4, 2010 3:07 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
jampet: seriously- he could work that out?
been measured with a One Liter Measuring Cylinder!rolling on the floor laughing
Dec 4, 2010 3:07 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
EriK_tg
EriK_tgEriK_tgBaltimore, Maryland USA4 Threads 2 Polls 153 Posts
Serpenta_Manon: Are we to believe that Noah, with no shipbuilding knowledge and no shipbuilding tradition to rely upon, was able to construct a wooden ship that was longer than any that has been built since?

No, you are to believe that c. 1500 years after Iron and bronze-working was developed, that Noah had, under his 500 years of life managed to learn something about shipbuilding.


Serpenta_Manon: How did Noah manage to collect the endemic species from the New World, Australia, Polynesia, and other remote regions entirely unknown to him?

He didn't. God sent them to him:

Serpenta_Manon: How, once he found them, did he transport them back to his Near Eastern home?

What makes you think the geography of the earth before the Flood looked ANYTHING like it does today? Think of the erosion that a global flood would cause. Noah LANDED in the Middle East, but we have no idea whether or not he lived "there," before the Flood.

Serpenta_Manon: How did he find the space on the ark?

There's plenty of space. In fact, only the top 1/3 would have been necessary to hold all the animals. Moreover, he didn't take representatives of each SPECIES, only each KIND.

Serpenta_Manon: How did he manage to find and care for the hundreds of thousands of parasitic species or the hundreds of thousands of plant species?

Taken as seeds or as food (see Genesis 6 for details). And nearly every animal that lives as a parasite today can function, or could have in the past, without being parasitic. They've had 4,500-ish years to fit into ecological niches--and face it, some animals are lazy.

Serpenta_Manon: (Plants are ignored in the Genesis account, but the animals wouldn’t last long if the plants died in the flood.)

They're not ignored. Noah was told to bring every kind of food into the Ark. Also, humans were vegetarian until after the Flood (see Genesis 9, compared with Genesis 2), so obviously this food must have been non-animalian.
Besides, many plants would have survived floating in the water, eventually growing up after the water had planted them in the tops of the sediments and subsequently drained off.

Serpenta_Manon: Since there were several million species involved

There were not. There would only have needed to be about 50,000 animals total, by the most liberal calculations. If you really want to know, I can give you a link (or you can look for yourself on AiG's site)

Serpenta_Manon: The flood covered the highest mountain tops (Mount Everest?)

Nope. Everest is most likely the result of an uplift in the latter parts of the Flood. Moreover, it was only at day 40 that the tops of the mountains were covered. It's possible that anytime between then and day 371 that mountains were uplifted. Mount Everest need not have existed before the Flood--if it did, it wouldn't be there anymore due to the erosion.

Serpenta_Manon: Why is there no evidence of such a massive flood in the geological record?

The entire geological record is the evidence. It was ALL deposited (nearly all, with very few pre-and-post exceptions) during the Flood.

Serpenta_Manon: what would they have eaten?

a. Food Noah had brought with them.
b. Dead carcasses on the surface of the earth from those that had died in the flood
c. Plants that sprouted between the time that the earth was dry and the time that the animals disembarked
d. Possibly even each other. After all, 99.9% of all animals that ever lived are extinct.

Serpenta_Manon: What would the carnivores have eaten? Whatever prey they ate would have gone extinct.

Carnivores are fully capable of eating more than just red meat.
Dec 4, 2010 3:07 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
EriK_tg
EriK_tgEriK_tgBaltimore, Maryland USA4 Threads 2 Polls 153 Posts
Serpenta_Manon: And how did the New World primates or the Australian marsupials find there way back after the flood subsided?

1. They didn't have to go "back," because they probably weren't there in the first place.
2. Migration, and in the marsupials's case, competition with other animals combined with the fact that the post-Flood Ice Age would have created land bridges that would have enabled the animals to get to now-cutoff areas.
3. Besides, animals can swim more than we give them credit for.
4. Also, there would have been much debris that they could have floated on and gotten very far (trees).

Serpenta_Manon: Noah kills the “clean beasts” and burns their dead bodies for God (Genesis 8:20). According to Genesis 7:8 this would have caused the extinction of all “clean” animals since only two of each were taken onto the ark.

False.
7 of each clean beast, that is, 3 pairs, and one extra to be sacrificed. Not too hard.

Serpenta_Manon: So I don't believe that their was such a thing as an Ark

Clearly. If you'd thought much about it at all, you wouldn't need me to be answering such simple questions for you. But I took the liberty of answering you, to show you that there ARE answers, if you only want to find them.
Dec 4, 2010 3:07 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
bodleing: Of course, but you'd better get a shift on...last orders at 1am.

that's cool Im hours ahead of you..super
on my way, "got that smile in check"??? sweet!!!!applause applause cheering cheers wine yay
Dec 4, 2010 3:08 PM CST What do you think about the Ark Encounter?
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
RDM59: ..... May the hound relieve himself upon your shoes ....


B'stard!!!

You just made me spit my coffee out.


rolling on the floor laughing

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