no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear? (229)

Dec 8, 2010 10:12 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
LILLYLADY: Somewhere I read this year that one of the rocket attacks from Gaza or Lebanon this year had white phosphorous in it. Nothing was made a big deal of it on the news though but just casually mentioned and then the news dropped it.


Yes, here is the news about it.

Published: 09/15/10, 7:32 PM / Last Update: 09/15/10, 7:34 PM
Hamas Uses Phosphorous Bombs

IDF experts who examined some of the mortar shells fired at Israeli communities on Wednesday found that the explosives used contained phosphorous. The finding shows that Hamas has gained more advanced weapons technology, they said.Phosphorous would make any wounds resulting from a terrorist rocket attack more severe, as the substance burns on impact and can cause serious injury or death. It is forbidden for use as a weapon in civilian areas by international law.

Gaza terrorists fired one rocket and nine mortar shells at Israeli civilian communities in the western Negev on Wednesday. Senior Hamas terrorist Ahmed Jabri released a statement calling to continue the attacks “until victory.”

Hamas previously said it was refraining from attacking Israel, and blamed rocket and mortar shell attacks on other terrorist groups operating in Gaza.

In response to Wednesday's attacks, IDF planes bombed tunnels in southern Gaza. According to Channel 2 news, at least one of the tunnels was to have been used to bring terrorists from Gaza to southern Israel, to carry out either an attack or a kidnapping.

Jabri made reference to Hamas's tunnels network in his statement. “By our faith, our weapons, our rockets, our tunnels and our martyrs – given to us by Allah – we will achieve victory in the land of Palestine,” he told followers.


(IsraelNationalNews.com)
Dec 8, 2010 10:30 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
A nuclear bomb will not be a dangerous one as long as you don't religion to it .
Dec 8, 2010 10:32 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
bollywood: A nuclear bomb will not be a dangerous one as long as you don't religion to it .


What do you mean when you say as you don't religion to it.
Dec 8, 2010 10:33 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
time4fun4u
time4fun4utime4fun4uAlicante, Valencia Spain18 Threads 1 Polls 10,066 Posts
bollywood: A nuclear bomb will not be a dangerous one as long as you don't religion to it .
Not dangerous? Wouldnt want one landing on my bloody head!
Dec 8, 2010 10:34 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
I don't have time to read the whole thread but I would just like to say that the biggest mistake regarding nuclear power was naively made by Dwight Eisenhower in the 50's with his "Atoms For Peace" initiative. That effectively spread atomic technology around the world and could not be controlled once the cat was let out of the bag.

His speech to the UN 1953

"To hasten the day when fear of the atom will begin to disappear from the minds the people and the governments of the East and West, there are certain steps that can be taken now.

I therefore make the following proposal.

The governments principally involved, to the extent permitted by elementary prudence, should begin now and continue to make joint contributions from their stockpiles of normal uranium and fissionable materials to an international atomic energy agency. We would expect that such an agency would be set up under the aegis of the United Nations. The ratios of contributions, the procedures and other details would properly be within the scope of the "private conversations" I referred to earlier.

The United States is prepared to undertake these explorations in good faith.Any partner of the United States acting in the same good faith will find the United States a not unreasonable or ungenerous associate.

Undoubtedly, initial and early contributions to this plan would be small in quantity. However, the proposal has the great virtue that it can be undertaken without the irritations and mutual suspicions incident to any attempt to set up a completely acceptable system of world-wide inspection and control.

The atomic energy agency could be made responsible for the impounding,storage and protection of the contributed fissionable and other materials. The ingenuity of our scientists will provide special safe conditions under which such a bank of fissionable material can be made essentially immune to surprise seizure.

The more important responsibility of this atomic energy agency would be to devise methods whereby this fissionable material would be allocated to serve the peaceful pursuits of mankind. Experts would be mobilized to apply atomic energy to the needs of agriculture, medicine and other peaceful activities. A special purpose would be to provide abundant electrical energy in the power-starved areas of the world.

Thus the contributing Powers would be dedicating some of their strength to serve the needs rather than the fears of mankind.

The United States would be more than willing - it would be proud to take up with others "principally involved" the development of plans whereby such peaceful use of atomic energy would be expedited."

Dec 8, 2010 10:37 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
lovelyliza
lovelylizalovelylizabethlehem, Pennsylvania USA12 Threads 2 Polls 488 Posts
somone4u: What you think about the iran-israel nuclear question?


In my opinion; no one should have a NUC power..cuz it destroys human beings..people who invented Nuclear power were bunch of "LUNATICS" and too full of hatred in their minds...psychopats..All they want is power...not peace of minds..very mad frustrated
Dec 8, 2010 10:38 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
religious fanatic countries often call them adding the religion names to it . thus it becomes dangerous .They could use this against anyone opposing their religious agenda. Otherwise nuclear weapons are a good deterrent and help maintain a power balance and peace in the region
Dec 8, 2010 10:42 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
lovelyliza
lovelylizalovelylizabethlehem, Pennsylvania USA12 Threads 2 Polls 488 Posts
JSuburbia: It's a defensive weapon in that, their enemies can be assured, they will be destroyed if they are attacked. It's a deterrant.

This is why the United States & the Soviet Union never went through a nuclear exchange. Each was assured destruction if one let their missiles fly.


so impress in every post you have posted...you're so brilliant..too bad you don't have pics.. are you a professor by any chance??,,hhehehehegrin
Dec 8, 2010 10:42 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
bollywood: religious fanatic countries often call them adding the religion names to it . thus it becomes dangerous .They could use this against anyone opposing their religious agenda. Otherwise nuclear weapons are a good deterrent and help maintain a power balance and peace in the region


Yes, I agree
Dec 8, 2010 10:43 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
time4fun4u: Not dangerous? Wouldnt want one landing on my bloody head!


There are more lethal and destructive technology freely available today . Genetic engineering is the biggest threat to the Humanity. Genetic technology can be catastrophic .It can cause all that could be caused by a nuclear bomb but in many folds. An attack by using genetic technology can go unnoticed for generations and it will be too late by the time you understand that you are under attack.
Dec 8, 2010 10:43 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
lovelyliza: so impress in every post you have posted...you're so brilliant..too bad you don't have pics.. are you a professor by any chance??,,hhehehehe


Yay, it's a match. Shall I buy a hat?
Dec 8, 2010 10:45 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
lovelyliza
lovelylizalovelylizabethlehem, Pennsylvania USA12 Threads 2 Polls 488 Posts
AJ1976: Look to me both states are extremist in outlook and pose a danger to mankind at large. In an ideal world neither of the two would have nuclear technology. Hell in an ideal world nobody would have it in the first place!


AJ,
I agree with you.."nobody would have it" yes,,,,,pls. tell the whole world....thumbs up
Dec 8, 2010 10:46 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
bollywood: There are more lethal and destructive technology freely available today . Genetic engineering is the biggest threat to the Humanity. Genetic technology can be catastrophic .It can cause all that could be caused by a nuclear bomb but in many folds. An attack by using genetic technology can go unnoticed for generations and it will be too late by the time you understand that you are under attack.


In your opinion it it likely, and who do you think may use it.
Dec 8, 2010 10:53 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
Wow_Factor: In your opinion it it likely, and who do you think may use it.


Wow_Factor: In your opinion it it likely, and who do you think may use it.

In my opinion its already in use. May be we will find that out in a decades time . Well any nation or organizations with a destructive agenda and can afford to set up a small science lab can manipulate this technology.and its impossible to stop it because the equipments and instruments are freely available everywhere.
Dec 8, 2010 10:55 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
bollywood: In my opinion its already in use. May be we will find that out in a decades time . Well any nation or organizations with a destructive agenda and can afford to set up a small science lab can manipulate this technology.and its impossible to stop it because the equipments and instruments are freely available everywhere.


Sounds like fiction of a mad professor in a laboratory. Surely though someone would talk about it. (Or maybe they have done).
Dec 8, 2010 10:56 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
Wow_Factor: Sounds like fiction of a mad professor in a laboratory. Surely though someone would talk about it. (Or maybe they have done).
One out of Ray's Playbook!laugh
Dec 8, 2010 10:59 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
lovelyliza
lovelylizalovelylizabethlehem, Pennsylvania USA12 Threads 2 Polls 488 Posts
bollywood: There are more lethal and destructive technology freely available today . Genetic engineering is the biggest threat to the Humanity. Genetic technology can be catastrophic .It can cause all that could be caused by a nuclear bomb but in many folds. An attack by using genetic technology can go unnoticed for generations and it will be too late by the time you understand that you are under attack.


You're right in that point my friend!!!..that's why??there's a lot of happenings since this technologies invented...that the ordinary human beings were the one's who were vulnerable what's been happening in everyday lives...but "WE" always live in fear nowadays.. than 50 yrs ago, when technologies were not invented yet. Now...smart ppl/who knows techs..knows how, and where, and what every human minds move..Pretty soon, technologies contol on how we breath and sleep every day/night..just my opinion...we're not heading to a peaceful world, we used to lived in..sigh mumbling
Dec 8, 2010 11:00 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
moonmana1
moonmana1moonmana1Wyoming, Minnesota USA3 Threads 364 Posts
somone4u: This is a social place not a politically website as you try very hard to turn us to that. You are trying to gather supporter who will follow your hatred & anti-social attitude. And if to tell the truth is insults then what a shameful world we lives in.


These are politcal threadsdoh
Ignorancelaugh You want to be social, go to other subjects and threads. Stupid is as stupid does I guess.

AS far as attacking conrad... He is more versed and educated on world subjects than you will ever be somenone.
We all come here to get our points accross.. If it hurts your little feeling don't join in on the conversations in the political threads.
Called common sense. This is no place for girlymancheering
Sorry,had to add that.. Just me todaygrin
Dec 8, 2010 11:00 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
Conrad73: One out of Ray's Playbook!


Lol, there are conspiracy theories that are out of this world, and there are so-called conspiracy theories that could possibly be a reality.
Dec 8, 2010 11:01 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
lovelyliza
lovelylizalovelylizabethlehem, Pennsylvania USA12 Threads 2 Polls 488 Posts
Wow_Factor: Yay, it's a match. Shall I buy a hat?


If it's suits you "wow factor" go buy a hat...definitely..to cover up...merry x'mas.cool
Dec 8, 2010 11:04 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
lovelyliza
lovelylizalovelylizabethlehem, Pennsylvania USA12 Threads 2 Polls 488 Posts
bollywood: In my opinion its already in use. May be we will find that out in a decades time . Well any nation or organizations with a destructive agenda and can afford to set up a small science lab can manipulate this technology.and its impossible to stop it because the equipments and instruments are freely available everywhere.


You forgot to mention (north korea, china, and India) were big nations to manipulate this tech. and their smarter ppl that any nations..
confused
Dec 8, 2010 11:07 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
bollywood
bollywoodbollywoodTRIVANDRUM, Kerala India53 Threads 2 Polls 973 Posts
All inventions and technologies first looked like a fiction of a mad professor in a laboratory and they have proved to be facts of life later .
Dec 8, 2010 11:07 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
lovelyliza: If it's suits you "wow factor" go buy a hat...definitely..to cover up...merry x'mas.


I meant shall I buy a hat for the wedding if there is going to be one. (It's a UK phrase!)

Merry Xmas to you too Liza
Dec 8, 2010 11:10 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
lovelyliza: You forgot to mention (north korea, china, and India) were big nations to manipulate this tech. and their smarter ppl that any nations..
ESPECIALLY N-Korea!confused
Dec 8, 2010 11:12 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
lovelyliza
lovelylizalovelylizabethlehem, Pennsylvania USA12 Threads 2 Polls 488 Posts
lovelyliza: You forgot to mention (north korea, china, and India) were big nations to manipulate this tech. and their smarter ppl that any nations..


I have to exit this dicussion cuz it's kind of a sensitive topic..maybe the OP has something in mind himself... I have to suggest to you,(pls. get some counseling buddy)...
Dec 8, 2010 11:21 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
lovelyliza: I have to exit this dicussion cuz it's kind of a sensitive topic..maybe the OP has something in mind himself... I have to suggest to you,(pls. get some counseling buddy)...


Makes one think ay???
How much do we really care for our children, our children's chider, our future generation... Are we so much infected with greed and hate that we refuse to see that only peace is a valid option
Dec 8, 2010 11:22 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
jvaski
jvaskijvaskiunknown, California USA115 Threads 11 Polls 9,576 Posts
The first thing we need to establish is the correct pronounciation of the word ! scold

Dec 8, 2010 11:27 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
somone4u
somone4usomone4uMarseille, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azur France21 Threads 5 Polls 307 Posts
Wow_Factor: Yes, here is the news about it.

Published: 09/15/10, 7:32 PM / Last Update: 09/15/10, 7:34 PM
Hamas Uses Phosphorous Bombs

IDF experts who examined some of the mortar shells fired at Israeli communities on Wednesday found that the explosives used contained phosphorous. The finding shows that Hamas has gained more advanced weapons technology, they said.Phosphorous would make any wounds resulting from a terrorist rocket attack more severe, as the substance burns on impact and can cause serious injury or death. It is forbidden for use as a weapon in civilian areas by international law.

Gaza terrorists fired one rocket and nine mortar shells at Israeli civilian communities in the western Negev on Wednesday. Senior Hamas terrorist Ahmed Jabri released a statement calling to continue the attacks “until victory.”

Hamas previously said it was refraining from attacking Israel, and blamed rocket and mortar shell attacks on other terrorist groups operating in Gaza.

In response to Wednesday's attacks, IDF planes bombed tunnels in southern Gaza. According to Channel 2 news, at least one of the tunnels was to have been used to bring terrorists from Gaza to southern Israel, to carry out either an attack or a kidnapping.

Jabri made reference to Hamas's tunnels network in his statement. “By our faith, our weapons, our rockets, our tunnels and our martyrs – given to us by Allah – we will achieve victory in the land of Palestine,” he told followers.(IsraelNationalNews.com)
Please stop the bias lies and baseless words and have some respect to us here. From where the stupid hamass could get white Phosphorous bombs? By the way; where is the link? And who said that? is the IDF? Tell me again is the IDF who said that? Couldn’t you get that truth from a trustworthy people better than the IDF who already USED these weapons and now want say they are not alone? Do you remember who compiled the famous documents which confirmed the behavior of the IDF and the kinds of weapons they USED in 2008/2009?
Dec 8, 2010 11:28 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
moonmana1
moonmana1moonmana1Wyoming, Minnesota USA3 Threads 364 Posts
jvaski: The first thing we need to establish is the correct pronounciation of the word !



Now there you go turning this into a political threadrolling on the floor laughing
Can you say alunimum?
At least Bush didn't need a teleprompter to mispronounce a word.scold
Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM CST no for Iran BUT yes for Israel: be the judge who should have nuclear?
Wow_Factor
Wow_FactorWow_FactorLondon, Greater London, England UK45 Threads 3,698 Posts
somone4u: Please stop the bias lies and baseless words and have some respect to us here. From where the stupid hamass could get white Phosphorous bombs? By the way; where is the link? And who said that? is the IDF? Tell me again is the IDF who said that? Couldn’t you get that truth from a trustworthy people better than the IDF who already USED these weapons and now want say they are not alone? Do you remember who compiled the famous documents which confirmed the behavior of the IDF and the kinds of weapons they USED in 2008/2009?


You see the source at the bottom of the article. Israel National News. The news was NOT lies. Oh yes, hammas managed to obtain it. Anyone who doesn't support terrorists is a lier? Wake up and smell the coffee, or words to that effect. This was done as an ad-hoc attack and not in a war situation. I believe your mind is too clouded with hate for Israel that you cannot see the truth.

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