Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012! (770)

Feb 18, 2011 5:12 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
MizKyGal
MizKyGalMizKyGalLouisville, Kentucky USA10 Threads 1 Polls 877 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: hi Miz good to see you



Thanks, nice to see you too!! Have a fun evening hug
Feb 18, 2011 5:15 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
MizKyGal: Thanks, nice to see you too!! Have a fun evening
You too Miz... Am trying my best innocent
Feb 18, 2011 5:18 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: And you are miscalculating as usual TT! Bush freed what? Get the Fick out of here


That is a very old take off on one of the world's first political rants.....on King Saul of Israel.

But you just watch when the dust settles in the ME.....Iranian influence region is going to be extended and all that hype on democratic movements....will be just that....hype.

If it were not so. Why did the New Egypt give permission to the Iranian Navy vessels to enter the MED? First time in 20 years that they have been there. It is a show extending force that the Iranians make. Just like our Washington battle carrier group was sent to the Yellow Sea.
Feb 18, 2011 5:19 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Faithfulness
FaithfulnessFaithfulnessWaukesha, Wisconsin USA2 Threads 1,056 Posts
You're replying to post made by: Hot_Single_Dude
Republicna endorsers cna definately NOT getting Real you see? Being Cocoonised as soon as another lousy Repubhead takes over in America making them really loosing touch with the real world and what is going on aorund them and of course what is going on in other countries

By MICHAEL TARM Associated Press The Associated Press
Friday, February 18, 2011 1:51 PM EST

Democratic Wisconsin Assembly members cheer on the fourth day of large scale... (AP Photo/Andy Manis)

Chicago(AP) — Democrats who fled Wisconsin to block a vote on a sweeping anti-union bill could stay in hiding for days or even weeks.

Democratic state Sen. Jon Erpenbach (URP'-ehn-bahk) spoke to The Associated Press at a Chicago hotel on Friday. He and fellow Democratic senators left Wisconsin on Thursday to delay the near-certain passage of a bill backed by Republicans and GOP Gov. Scott Walker.

Thousands of protesters have also flocked to the Capitol in Madison, Wis., to demonstrate against the bill.

Erpenbach says there's no fixed date for Democrats to return to Wisconsin. He say all 14 Senate Democrats will meet somewhere in Illinois on Friday. He would not say where or exactly when.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

The Wisconsin State Patrol was dispatched Friday to find a Democratic state senator who fled the Capitol to delay the near-certain passage of a bill to end a half-century of collective bargaining rights for public workers, a measure that's attracted thousands of protesters for four days.

With Democrats saying they won't return before Saturday, it was unclear when the Senate would be able to begin debating Gov. Scott Walker's measure meant to ease the state's budget woes. Democrats who disappeared Thursday at first kept their whereabouts secret, then started to emerge to give interviews and fan the protests.

Senate Republicans convened briefly Friday morning to renew a call to find the Democrats, then recessed. Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, R-Juneau, told reporters he has asked the governor to send two state troopers to Senate Democratic Minority Leader Mark Miller's suburban Madison home. He said he believes Miller may be there — he did not elaborate on why he thought that — and Walker agreed to dispatch the officers.

Early Friday, an Associated Press reporter went to Miller's home in Monona, but no one answered the door. In an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America," Miller said the Democrats "had left the state so we were out of reach of the Wisconsin State Patrol."
Feb 18, 2011 5:22 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Faithfulness
FaithfulnessFaithfulnessWaukesha, Wisconsin USA2 Threads 1,056 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Republicna endorsers cna definately NOT getting Real you see? Being Cocoonised as soon as another lousy Repubhead takes over in America making them really loosing touch with the real world and what is going on aorund them and of course what is going on in other countries


Wis. Assembly plans vote on plan to strip unions
By SCOTT BAUER Associated Press The Associated Press
Friday, February 18, 2011 10:48 AM EST

Protestors to Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's bill to eliminate collective bargaining... (AP Photo/Andy Manis)

Madison, Wis. (AP) — The Wisconsin state Assembly intends to vote on Gov. Scott Walker's proposal to strip collective bargaining rights from nearly all state employees.

Assembly Speaker Jeff Fitzgerald said Friday they intend to take up the bill sometime later in the day.

The Senate planned to debate it on Thursday, but all 14 Democrats staged a boycott delaying the action for at least a day. Several of them escaped to northern Illinois for several hours.

Democrats were present in the Assembly when it convened briefly.

Thousands of teachers and others have descended on the Capitol, forcing schools to close due to high absences. Dozens of people have spent the night for three straight nights in the Capitol as a sign of protest.



Copyright 2011 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed
Feb 18, 2011 5:23 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Faithfulness: You're replying to post made by: Hot_Single_Dude
Republicna endorsers cna definately NOT getting Real you see? Being Cocoonised as soon as another lousy Repubhead takes over in America making them really loosing touch with the real world and what is going on aorund them and of course what is going on in other countries

By MICHAEL TARM Associated Press The Associated Press
Friday, February 18, 2011 1:51 PM EST

Democratic Wisconsin Assembly members cheer on the fourth day of large scale... (AP Photo/Andy Manis)

Chicago(AP) — Democrats who fled Wisconsin to block a vote on a sweeping anti-union bill could stay in hiding for days or even weeks.

Democratic state Sen. Jon Erpenbach (URP'-ehn-bahk) spoke to The Associated Press at a Chicago hotel on Friday. He and fellow Democratic senators left Wisconsin on Thursday to delay the near-certain passage of a bill backed by Republicans and GOP Gov. Scott Walker.

Thousands of protesters have also flocked to the Capitol in Madison, Wis., to demonstrate against the bill.

Erpenbach says there's no fixed date for Democrats to return to Wisconsin. He say all 14 Senate Democrats will meet somewhere in Illinois on Friday. He would not say where or exactly when.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

The Wisconsin State Patrol was dispatched Friday to find a Democratic state senator who fled the Capitol to delay the near-certain passage of a bill to end a half-century of collective bargaining rights for public workers, a measure that's attracted thousands of protesters for four days.

With Democrats saying they won't return before Saturday, it was unclear when the Senate would be able to begin debating Gov. Scott Walker's measure meant to ease the state's budget woes. Democrats who disappeared Thursday at first kept their whereabouts secret, then started to emerge to give interviews and fan the protests.

Senate Republicans convened briefly Friday morning to renew a call to find the Democrats, then recessed. Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, R-Juneau, told reporters he has asked the governor to send two state troopers to Senate Democratic Minority Leader Mark Miller's suburban Madison home. He said he believes Miller may be there — he did not elaborate on why he thought that — and Walker agreed to dispatch the officers.

Early Friday, an Associated Press reporter went to Miller's home in Monona, but no one answered the door. In an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America," Miller said the Democrats "had left the state so we were out of reach of the Wisconsin State Patrol."


I think that Wisconsin State Attroney should file impeachment charges on any DEM not sitting in his seat on say the next day of Business for te legislator.

With impeachment.....a new election is done...and they are replaced.
Feb 18, 2011 5:24 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Had to paste and bringing in this fabulous article ...the man knows exactly what he is talking a bout:

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The Republican strategy is to split the vast middle and working class -- pitting unionized workers against non-unionized, public-sector workers against non-public, older workers within sight of Medicare and Social Security against younger workers who don't believe these programs will be there for them, and the poor against the working middle class.

By splitting working America along these lines, Republicans want Americans to believe that we can no longer afford to do what we need to do as a nation. They hope to deflect attention from the increasing share of total income and wealth going to the richest 1 percent while the jobs and wages of everyone else languish.

Republicans would rather no one notice their campaign to shrink the pie even further with additional tax cuts for the rich -- making the Bush tax cuts permanent, further reducing the estate tax, and allowing the wealthy to shift ever more of their income into capital gains taxed at 15 percent.

The strategy has three parts.

The Battle Over the Federal Budget

The first is being played out in the budget battle in Washington. As they raise the alarm over deficit spending and simultaneously squeeze popular middle-class programs, Republicans want the majority of the American public to view it all as a giant zero-sum game among average Americans that some will have to lose.

The president has already fallen into the trap by calling for budget cuts in programs the poor and working class depend on -- assistance with home heating, community services, college loans, and the like.

In the coming showdown over Medicare and Social Security, House budget chair Paul Ryan will push a voucher system for Medicare and a partly-privatized plan for Social Security -- both designed to attract younger middle-class voters.

The Assault on Public Employees

The second part of the Republican strategy is being played out on the state level where public employees are being blamed for state budget crises. Unions didn't cause these budget crises -- state revenues dropped because of the Great Recession -- but Republicans view them as opportunities to gut public employee unions, starting with teachers.

Wisconsin's Republican governor Scott Walker and his GOP legislature are seeking to end almost all union rights for teachers. Ohio's Republican governor John Kasich is pushing a similar plan in Ohio through a Republican-dominated legislature. New Jersey's Republican governor Chris Christie is attempting the same, telling a conservative conference Wednesday, "I'm attacking the leadership of the union because they're greedy, and they're selfish and they're self-interested."

The demonizing of public employees is not only based on the lie that they've caused these budget crises, but it's also premised on a second lie: that public employees earn more than private-sector workers. They don't, when you take account of their education. In fact over the last fifteen years the pay of public-sector workers, including teachers, has dropped relative to private-sector employees with the same level of education -- even including health and retirement benefits. Moreover, most public employees don't have generous pensions. After a career with annual pay averaging less than $45,000, the typical newly-retired public employee receives a pension of $19,000 a year.

countinues...
Feb 18, 2011 5:26 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
part two...


Bargaining rights for public employees haven't caused state deficits to explode. Some states that deny their employees bargaining rights, such as Nevada, North Carolina, and Arizona, are running big deficits of over 30 percent of spending. Many states that give employees bargaining rights -- Massachusetts, New Mexico, and Montana -- have small deficits of less than 10 percent.

Republicans would rather go after teachers and other public employees than have us look at the pay of Wall Street traders, private-equity managers, and heads of hedge funds -- many of whom wouldn't have their jobs today were it not for the giant taxpayer-supported bailout, and most of whose lending and investing practices were the proximate cause of the Great Depression to begin with.

Last year, America's top thirteen hedge-fund managers earned an average of $1 billion each. One of them took home $5 billion. Much of their income is taxed as capital gains -- at 15 percent -- due to a tax loophole that Republican members of Congress have steadfastly guarded.

If the earnings of those thirteen hedge-fund managers were taxed as ordinary income, the revenues generated would pay the salaries and benefits of over 5 million teachers. Who is more valuable to our society -- thirteen hedge-fund managers or 5 million teachers? Let's make the question even simpler. Who is more valuable: One hedge fund manager or one teacher?

The Distortion of the Constitution

The third part of the Republican strategy is being played out in the Supreme Court. It has politicized the Court more than at any time in recent memory.

Last year a majority of the justices determined that corporations have a right under the First Amendment to provide unlimited amounts of money to political candidates. Citizens United vs. the Federal Election Commission is among the most patently political and legally grotesque decisions of our highest court -- ranking right up there with Bush vs. Gore and Dred Scott.

Among those who voted in the affirmative were Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia. Both have become active strategists in the Republican party.

A month ago, for example, Antonin Scalia met in a closed-door session with Michele Bachmann's Tea Party caucus -- something no justice concerned about maintaining the appearance of impartiality would ever have done.

Both Thomas and Scalia have participated in political retreats organized and hosted by multi-billionaire financier Charles Koch, a major contributor to the Tea Party and other conservative organizations, and a crusader for ending all limits on money in politics. (Not incidentally, Thomas's wife is the founder of Liberty Central, a Tea Party organization that has been receiving unlimited corporate contributions due to the Citizens United decision. On his obligatory financial disclosure filings, Thomas has repeatedly failed to list her sources of income over the last twenty years, nor even to include his own four-day retreats courtesy of Charles Koch.)

Some time this year or next, the Supreme Court will be asked to consider whether the nation's new health care law is constitutional. Watch your wallets.

The Strategy as a Whole

These three aspects of the Republican strategy -- a federal budget battle to shrink government, focused on programs the vast middle class depends on; state efforts to undermine public employees, whom the middle class depends on; and a Supreme Court dedicated to bending the Constitution to enlarge and entrench the political power of the wealthy -- fit perfectly together.

They pit average working Americans against one another, distract attention from the almost unprecedented concentration of wealth and power at the top, and conceal Republican plans to further enlarge and entrench that wealth and power.


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Feb 18, 2011 5:27 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Faithfulness
FaithfulnessFaithfulnessWaukesha, Wisconsin USA2 Threads 1,056 Posts
You are replying to a post by ttom500:

I think that Wisconsin State Attroney should file impeachment charges on any DEM not sitting in his seat on say the next day of Business for te legislator.

With impeachment.....a new election is done...and they are replaced

I agree with you. As Governor Walker said the dems should come back to work because they are getting paid to work, not run away and hide.
Feb 18, 2011 5:30 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Faithfulness: You are replying to a post by ttom500:

I think that Wisconsin State Attroney should file impeachment charges on any DEM not sitting in his seat on say the next day of Business for te legislator.

With impeachment.....a new election is done...and they are replaced

I agree with you. As Governor Walker said the dems should come back to work because they are getting paid to work, not run away and hide.


Believe it or not. Abraham Lincoln did this one time. When he was in the IL legislator. They were the minority party. Had a vote coming that they were sure to lose. He organized his REP party to flee thru the window of the State Building.

Later he said it was the most dishonorable thing he had ever done and was ashamed for doing so.
Feb 18, 2011 5:32 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Faithfulness
FaithfulnessFaithfulnessWaukesha, Wisconsin USA2 Threads 1,056 Posts
You're replying to post made by: ttom500

Believe it or not. Abraham Lincoln did this one time. When he was in the IL legislator. They were the minority party. Had a vote coming that they were sure to lose. He organized his REP party to flee thru the window of the State Building.

Later he said it was the most dishonorable thing he had ever done and was ashamed for doing so.


This may be true about Lincoln. However, I don't think the Dems who ran and hide are going to admit it is dishonorable in what they are doing.
Feb 18, 2011 5:35 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Faithfulness: You're replying to post made by: ttom500

Believe it or not. Abraham Lincoln did this one time. When he was in the IL legislator. They were the minority party. Had a vote coming that they were sure to lose. He organized his REP party to flee thru the window of the State Building.

Later he said it was the most dishonorable thing he had ever done and was ashamed for doing so.This may be true about Lincoln. However, I don't think the Dems who ran and hide are going to admit it is dishonorable in what they are doing.


No I don't think that we will get that from them. But is a heck of chance for Governor Walker to run a single party Wisconisn. All he has to do is play the cards right.......grin laugh rolling on the floor laughing
Feb 18, 2011 5:37 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: That is a very old take off on one of the world's first political rants.....on King Saul of Israel.

But you just watch when the dust settles in the ME.....Iranian influence region is going to be extended and all that hype on democratic movements....will be just that....hype.

If it were not so. Why did the New Egypt give permission to the Iranian Navy vessels to enter the MED? First time in 20 years that they have been there. It is a show extending force that the Iranians make. Just like our Washington battle carrier group was sent to the Yellow Sea.


Even you are a kind of guy with great military knowledge and so on still you are not telling stuff as it is and are talking with George W Bush and specially with Ramsfeld toungue and have a lot of stuff going on in ur head not being the reality any way I am afraid to tell you.

As a matter of VERY VERy fact mister TT... since your bloddy Repubhead guys took the heck out of the White House... the influence of Mullahs have falled major time all ove rthe Middle east and particulary in Afghanistan and in Iraq and in Libanon and evne they use a lot money to maintain their influence... people reject them and their blood money is not working for them no more as it sure did during the dark years of 2001-2008...

It is all a bout skills and abilities of communicaiton and understanding and compairing Barack Obama and THAT GWB ... any body with a sense of knowledge knows exactly what I am talking a bout with all respect... even you know it more thna well but since being a propoganda master of the Repubhead party of America you can not mention this any way.

Iran got no influence for real no more and evne in libanon their dirty trick lost and Hizbollah out of their parliment stayed out as you have probebly heard a bout? It is so funny you are not mentioniong stuff which does not matuch your Repubhead kind of understanding world,s issues by the way TT rolling on the floor laughing

Mullahs can shuve their navy vessels mister TT... time have changed and ur guys have to wait at least a six years before they probabely will be able to try to destroy what ever positive this honorable preisdent of America Mr. Obama acheives tongue
Feb 18, 2011 5:43 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
ttom500: I think that Wisconsin State Attroney should file impeachment charges on any DEM not sitting in his seat on say the next day of Business for te legislator.

With impeachment.....a new election is done...and they are replaced.
thumbs up yay yay yay yay yay
Feb 18, 2011 5:44 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: I think that Wisconsin State Attroney should file impeachment charges on any DEM not sitting in his seat on say the next day of Business for te legislator.

With impeachment.....a new election is done...and they are replaced.
right on TT... laugh

the whole thing is a bout a lousy anti human and anti Union repubhead being the governer of that miserable place having THAT as the governer conversing
Feb 18, 2011 5:47 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Faithfulness
FaithfulnessFaithfulnessWaukesha, Wisconsin USA2 Threads 1,056 Posts
You're replying to post made by: Hot_Single_Dude
the whole thing is a bout a lousy anti human and anti Union repubhead being the governer of that miserable place having THAT as the governer

Dude, I believe you misunderstood. ttom500 was saying the Dems should be impeached.

Be careful. You are talking about the state I live in and about the Governor I voted for.
Feb 18, 2011 5:51 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Faithfulness: You're replying to post made by: Hot_Single_Dude
the whole thing is a bout a lousy anti human and anti Union repubhead being the governer of that miserable place having THAT as the governer

Dude, I believe you misunderstood. ttom500 was saying the Dems should be impeached.

Be careful. You are talking about the state I live in and about the Governor I voted for.


and you did very ABSOLOUTELY worng voting for a Governer who is against Human rights and against Unions and by definition THe most LOUSy choice EVER for Wiconsin and on the same saide as Taliban as Rush Limbaugh and the Entire Dang GOP head banger wink tongue
Feb 18, 2011 5:54 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Obvious the ME oil supplies are suspect now. The New Egypt can close the Suez. Iran can close the Strait of Hormuz. So?

Hear President Obama saying....gee Cheaspeake Energy....great timing on that new innovation in shale oil production. That just opened up 1.5 trillion barrels of US Shale crude to the US market!

Here is $250m in Gov't gaurrantee loan to make 30 of those shale drilling rigs. To employee 5000 to drill us some shale oil wells.If each rig does 12 production holes year...in a few years the US energy free. Your price at the pump will go down or stay the same.

Instead you have the President going to the CEO of Intell and CA Execs asking them how to make the economy work. These are the same execs that help to place CA into the economic hole that it is in.

That is because the President and the DEMs want that $4 per gallon price on gas. To force the country to go green. We have some stations in Orlando now charging $4.58 per gallon.

The lack of foresight by the Obama adminstration is startling inadecute and is the reason that the recession will continue thru the remaining years of his term.
Feb 18, 2011 5:56 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Faithfulness
FaithfulnessFaithfulnessWaukesha, Wisconsin USA2 Threads 1,056 Posts
You're replying to post made by: Hot_Single_Dude
and you did very ABSOLOUTELY worng voting for a Governer who is against Human rights and against Unions and by definition THe most LOUSy choice EVER for Wiconsin and on the same saide as Taliban as Rush Limbaugh and the Entire Dang GOP


Dude that is where you are WRONG. The last governor we had, Governor Doyle, is the one who was against human rights. Doyle is the whole who got us in the mess we are in and that Governor Walker is trying to clean up.
Feb 18, 2011 6:00 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
ttom500
ttom500ttom500St. Cloud, Florida USA30 Threads 5 Polls 10,523 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: right on TT...

the whole thing is a bout a lousy anti human and anti Union repubhead being the governer of that miserable place having THAT as the governer


Pretty sure the striking teachers have employment contracts. Or wwere in good faith negotiation to sign a new contract. The runaway DEM government have sworn office to hold. They represent that people of Wisconsin....but both are avoiding their responsibilities.

That is subject for removal.
Feb 18, 2011 6:04 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Faithfulness: You're replying to post made by: Hot_Single_Dude
and you did very ABSOLOUTELY worng voting for a Governer who is against Human rights and against Unions and by definition THe most LOUSy choice EVER for Wiconsin and on the same saide as Taliban as Rush Limbaugh and the Entire Dang GOP Dude that is where you are WRONG. The last governor we had, Governor Doyle, is the one who was against human rights. Doyle is the whole who got us in the mess we are in and that Governor Walker is trying to clean up.


I really am disgusted by any politicians and others who are agianst unions Faith ... sorry but still Unions got reality ater loosing tens of tousands of lives in many countries and after countles battles in favor of the working class against the big money men who absued workers and are still doing the same any where with no storng Unions...

For me the only important is this guy isagianst teacher Unions and is doing this in order to make lives of people more miserable and then blaming the government for what the heck he is doing against America!

I know his kind more than well Faith... absolutely dangerous and one of the main reasons America better watch out because his kind of guys already want it all back! uh oh
Feb 18, 2011 6:06 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
ttom500: Pretty sure the striking teachers have employment contracts. Or wwere in good faith negotiation to sign a new contract. The runaway DEM government have sworn office to hold. They represent that people of Wisconsin....but both are avoiding their responsibilities.

That is subject for removal.
Removal of the Republican governer... sure TT... bringing him behind bard in Arizona as well???He might be an illegal people say! thumbs up grin
Feb 18, 2011 6:09 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
got to sleep! May the Force be with you all! professor
Feb 18, 2011 7:41 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Faithfulness: You're replying to post made by: Hot_Single_Dude
and you did very ABSOLOUTELY worng voting for a Governer who is against Human rights and against Unions and by definition THe most LOUSy choice EVER for Wiconsin and on the same saide as Taliban as Rush Limbaugh and the Entire Dang GOP Dude that is where you are WRONG. The last governor we had, Governor Doyle, is the one who was against human rights. Doyle is the whole who got us in the mess we are in and that Governor Walker is trying to clean up.


Gud bless your governor! applause angel thumbs up
Feb 18, 2011 8:13 PM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
Politco:

(it's obvious they're really really worried about the childen. What a farce!)

Pelosi backs Wisconsin protesters
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi came out strongly in support of Wisconsin teachers and students who are protesting Gov. Scott Walker’s proposal to public employees of collective bargaining rights.

Pelosi told reporters Friday that the protests are “an extraordinary show of democracy in action.”

“Wisconsin's workers, teachers and public servants must have a seat at the table to fight for a safe workplace,” she said. “I stand in solidarity with the Wisconsin workers fighting for their rights, especially for all the students and young people leading the charge.”

What the hell do the students have to do with teachers paying 12% of their insurance premiums. doh Everytime Pelosi opens her pie hole, she sounds more and more stupid! barf
Feb 19, 2011 2:10 AM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Hot_Single_Dude: part two...Bargaining rights for public employees haven't caused state deficits to explode. Some states that deny their employees bargaining rights, such as Nevada, North Carolina, and Arizona, are running big deficits of over 30 percent of spending. Many states that give employees bargaining rights -- Massachusetts, New Mexico, and Montana -- have small deficits of less than 10 percent.

Republicans woulbailout, and most of whose lending and investing practices were the proximate cause of the Great Depression to begin with.

Last year, America's top thirteen hedge-fund managers earned an average of $1 billion each. One of them took home $5 billion. Much of their income is taxed as capital gains -- at 15 percent -- due to a tax loophole that Republican members of Congress have steadfastly guarded.

If the earnings of those thirteen hedge-fund managers were taxed as ordinary income, the revenues generated would pay the salaries and benefits of over 5 million teachers. Who is more valuable to our society -- thirteen hedge-fund managers or 5 million teachers? Let's make the question even simpler. Who is more valuable: One hedge fund manager or one teacher?

The Distortion of the Constitution

The third part of the Republican strategy is being played out in the Supreme Court. It has politicized the Court more than at any time in recent memory.

Last year a majority of the justices determined that corporations have a right under the First Amendment to provide unlimited amounts of money to political candidates. Citizens United vs. the Federal Election Commission is among the most patently political and legally grotesque decisions of our highest court -- ranking right up there with Bush vs. Gore and Dred Scott.

Among those who voted in the affirmative were Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia. Both have become active strategists in the Republican party.

A month ago, for example, Antonin Scalia met in a closed-door session with Michele Bachmann's Tea Party caucus -- something no justice concerned about maintaining the appearance of impartiality would ever have done.

Both Thomas and Scalia have participated in political retreats organized and hosted by multi-billionaire financier Charles Koch, a major contributor to the Tea Party and other conservative organizations, and a crusader for ending all limits on money in politics. (Not incidentally, Thomas's wife is the founder of Liberty Central, a Tea Party organization that has been receiving unlimited corporate contributions due to the Citizens United decision. On his obligatory financial disclosure filings, Thomas has repeatedly failed to list her sources of income over the last twenty years, nor even to include his own four-day retreats courtesy of Charles Koch.)

Some time this year or next, the Supreme Court will be asked to consider whether the nation's new health care law is constitutional. Watch your wallets.

The Strategy as a Whole

These three aspects of the Republican strategy -- a federal budget battle to shrink government, focused on programs the vast middle class depends on; state efforts to undermine public employees, whom the middle class depends on; and a Supreme Court dedicated to bending the Constitution to enlarge and entrench the political power of the wealthy -- fit perfectly together.

They pit average working Americans against one another, distract attention from the almost unprecedented concentration of wealth and power at the top, and conceal Republican plans to further enlarge and entrench that wealth and power._______________________________________________
Bullmalarky-Huffington-crud-Reich-Crap.
Feb 19, 2011 2:34 AM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
Actractorguy: Wisconsin Democrats could stay away for weeks



MADISON, Wis. – Democrats on the run in Wisconsin avoided state troopers Friday and threatened to stay in hiding for weeks, potentially paralyzing a state government they no longer control.

The party's stand against balancing the state's budget by cutting the pay, benefits and collective bargaining rights of public workers is the boldest action yet by Democrats to push back against last fall's GOP wave.

But the dramatic strategy that's clogged the Capitol with thousands of protesters clashes with one essential truth: Republicans told everyone unions would be a target, and the GOP has more than enough votes to pass its plans once the Legislature can convene.

The 14 Senate Democrats left the state Thursday, delaying action in that chamber on a sweeping anti-union bill. Sen. Jon Erpenbach, who was among those who fled, said Friday that the group was prepared to be away for weeks, although he would like the standoff to end as soon as possible.

"That really, truly is up to the governor," he told The Associated Press in an interview Friday at a downtown Chicago hotel. "It's his responsibility to bring the state together. The state is not unified. It is totally torn part."

Erpenbach (URP'-ehn-bahk) accused new Republican Gov. Scott Walker of trying to rush the legislation, calling the governor's style "dictatorial" at times.Oops holding the taxpayers hostage is gonna backfire like you have never seen before.

I can see it now. One person calls for special elections for those awol and then it's a full blown republican gov.

Then we'll see real progress.


I should try not coming to work when there are tough decisions to make. That'll go over really welllaugh
Feb 19, 2011 6:19 AM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Obama must win, the republicans of the world have got us into this mess we are in at the momentvery mad
Feb 19, 2011 6:19 AM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
Actractorguy: Just For Dude.
rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing That was horrible!!!!! rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
Feb 19, 2011 6:23 AM CST Obama is going ot win the presidency in 2012!
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
tomcatwarne: Obama must win, the republicans of the world have got us into this mess we are in at the moment


I disagree, we all got ourselves into this mess as one big, disfunctional group. Placing the blame on either the Reps or Dems is wrong as they're both responsible. Two kids that can't play fair with each other. I always find they're at their best when there's an even spread of Reps and Dems. A majority with either equates to a problem.

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