Hot_Single_Dude: Can you find figur a way out being proud of the unbeleivable favor to humanity your country is doing here and now and in order to save huamn beings in other countries ? How did Republicanism consumed your sense of care since you are talking more and more as a dang Talibanee Freddy? Pretty scarey thinking a bout what kind of shi* these Repubheads are feeding you guys with
Conrad73: "… the greedy hand of government thrusts itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasps the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenue and taxation. It watches prosperity as prey, and permits none to escape without a tribute"." -- Thomas Paine
Paine was talking in support of independent from british colonialists silly
Cowhand: Ohh Please dearest Ccincy ...... if someone is jailed, they can not take care of themselves.... the so of course it is society's task... No less !
But maybe it would be an idear, if they keep their jobs.... in the daylight.. and are jailed at night... I think I will give this idear on to our own stupid Prime minister....They could even pay for their Prison Stay.... the next 20 years...what a lot of money ... the society could save!
Hot_Single_Dude: You say no exceution and you say no care for prisoners(criminals)... then how shall the matter being taken cared of then?
Victums should be taken cared of by usage of psychological means and occupation and compensations and what ever possiblities a society got ...
Stopping executions needs more money Cciny and the money can only come form taxation you see?
Right winged "saving " by killing people they beleive... it is all a bout the dang money and not a thing else ... we got out own kind of stoopidoes over here as well who talk a bout killing criminals that way will be cheaper for the society but fortunatily a great majority of people making fun of them and condumning them and rejecting death penalty and not allowing them becoming governer of Arizona or some thing for example! No countries got rid of death penalty EVER have gets it back even it is pretty possible by voting death penalty endorsers in ... that fact says a lot!
I don't remember saying I'm against exacution. But why should WE the taxpayers have to take responsibilty to house and care for someone who ends up in prison?
What about putting those tax dollars to alot better use like providing help and support for the victims families.
There's a child registered child molestor who lives 2 blocks from my home.
Ccincy: I don't remember saying I'm against exacution. But why should WE the taxpayers have to take responsibilty to house and care for someone who ends up in prison?
What about putting those tax dollars to alot better use like providing help and support for the victims families.
There's a child registered child molestor who lives 2 blocks from my home.
Oh sorry... I thought you were against excutions reading your earlier posts but I misunderstood you then... because I definately am against death penalty and finding it primitive
The child molester you refer to have hopefully received his punishment I suppose...
Hot_Single_Dude: Oh sorry... I thought you were against excutions reading your earlier posts but I misunderstood you then... because I definately am against death penalty and finding it primitive
The child molester you refer to have hopefully received his punishment I suppose...
Since excuutions are out what else is there HSD?
I read somewhere where they're wanting to do away with Excution here in Ohio.
As for the child molestor recieving his punishment I think so.
Tha is how it goes when America trusts anti human right right wingers on charge in Wisconsin or Florida or Ohio or Arizona or else where runned by GOP:
The fabulous regarding these sad evnts in Arizona and Wisconsin and so on is ... America will know how important it is to vote wise instead of vote because of anger or desperation... never before have so many americans actually voted definately agaisnt their own benefits by sending these teapublicans and republicans in...
Ccincy: Since excuutions are out what else is there HSD?
I read somewhere where they're wanting to do away with Excution here in Ohio.As for the child molestor recieving his punishment I think so.
I have not a thing against my taxation money is used sending criminals behind bars and them being taken cared of humane way when behind barrs and because a modern society got an obligation acting propperly even agianst criminals. Prisoners can perfectly work while doing time and producing merchaindise since they got a lot time while in prison and the money can help running the facility but no matter what the society got to pay as well and that is why taxation money got to be used if a society wants to stop execution.
As suggested earlier by cowhand in here they can even go to work during day and being in prison after work... modern technology enabling prisoners being under suvioelence and making them not able to scape and so on and a society can perfectly creating safe factroies not able to scape from. There will be some problems negotiating with unions a bout this solution but since expenses to the country is reduced and criminals will be able to pay back to the society in a decent way... Unions will go a long I am sure.
I just disaprove death pentaly and too many people in US or in china or any where with death penalty have been executed even totaly inoncent and no investigation is a hundred procent and horrible mistakes can happen where ever excution is practiced.
I beleive humanity have evolved from Execution generally and I beleive the european model have been Way more successful than the american way.
We dont even have more drug users in Europe generally than in US even in US "shoot to kill" happens often and too many guns are every where and punishments agianst drugs are harsh ... here we chosed to use more money on stopping crimes before happening by education and by social education and by enabling people having an acceptable life even unemployed or even by legalising soft drugs in some european countries or making life more humane for drug users and enabling them to get their drugs under controlled conditions and cleaner environments, or making decent anti drug treatment free and aviable for all those who want to get rid of their addiction.
Results over here are less violence, less crimes done because of drugs and so on compairing to America... no matter how hard we punish and shoot them all and so on dictated by revenge seekers and less educated angry mobb of the society ... human beings find a way out and then better educationg folks out of this disaster drug usage certainly is.
For years and years relegion, harsh punishments, execution and you name it have been used in US and what is the result so far? I am sorry to say I have never seen so much usage of Coke(not Cocacola of course) and grass and so on than I have seen in US even amoung older folks in parties and so on... really strange since punishments are this rapidley harsh in US and even relegious folks got so big power in US... talking child molestation we all know deep going in relegious places this molestation is rapidley high and too many catolic preasts have been doing stuff absoloutely horrible agianst inoncent kids even they all talk a bout morality and demanding harsh punishments to others doing the same and so on...
When things are all in "mouth" and not getting done in a propper way and using the necessary money ... you can keep executing but no major problems of a society will ever solve any way
What the heck is wrong with your guys TT? You can not stop just being against the president for being against the presidnet and keep staying on the exact opposite side of the president no matter where and when and how ... right?
Pretty "honorable???????" working this rapidley against the benefits of your own country and there is no woder how come anti american media all over the place keep using Fox as their source of news when they bash on America now on days...
Pretty disgusting behaviour by your guys TT and absoloutely not benefitable for America and on the same side as Taliban like Rush Limbaugh wants your guys to be
CHANGE for sure... America is not the same and the whole entire world is not the same no more and the whole thing is getitgn more and more positive... no need for whinning no more... Enjoy the positive aspects of the new world order:
What the heck is wrong with your guys TT? You can not stop just being against the president for being against the presidnet and keep staying on the exact opposite side of the president no matter where and when and how ... right?
Pretty "honorable???????" working this rapidley against the benefits of your own country and there is no woder how come anti american media all over the place keep using Fox as their source of news when they bash on America now on days...
Pretty disgusting behaviour by your guys TT and absoloutely not benefitable for America and on the same side as Taliban like Rush Limbaugh wants your guys to be
Grinrich.....wants Qdaffi out. I want Qfaffi out. The entire world wants Qdaffi out. Where Obama has gotten into trouble.....was not consulting congress prior to his military mission and thier orders.
By law he has 90 days to bring the case to them. He has not done that yet. But likely will after this 'hand over'. But if he get stuck as being the leader of the coalition....a real possibility...he is in hot water.
Krucnich and 7 others.....were saying it was a impeachable offense. I don't go that far. Nor does Grinrich.
So the clock is ticking......If Qdaffi can hold out the 90 days....keep Obama as the leader of the coalition....then the REP Congress will fire breath on Obama for his breach of the Constitution and it executive statutes.
You got to remember....these guys take a oath to defend the Constitution. Constitutional breaches are frowned on.
Years and years of increadible battles toward better living conditions for workers and huge sacrifices by millions upon millions of workers... and then seeing these GOP guys declaring war agianst the basic human rights of american servicemen and workers is absoloutely disgusting!
Tha is how it goes when America trusts anti human right right wingers on charge in Wisconsin or Florida or Ohio or Arizona or else where runned by GOP:
The fabulous regarding these sad evnts in Arizona and Wisconsin and so on is ... America will know how important it is to vote wise instead of vote because of anger or desperation... never before have so many americans actually voted definately agaisnt their own benefits by sending these teapublicans and republicans in...
Daniel P. Vrakas County Executive
Waukesha County
DEPARTMENT OF COUNTY EXECUTIVE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Date: March 1, 2011 Contact: Ellen Nowak, County Executive’s Office, (262) 548-7902
WAUKESHA COUNTY EXECUTIVE SUPPORTS BUDGET REPAIR BILL
WAUKESHA, Wis. – Waukesha County Executive, Dan Vrakas, released the following statement regarding Governor Scott Walker’s Budget Repair Bill.
“I support Governor Walker’s Budget Repair Bill. It is a bold move that is a much needed step toward fiscal responsibility that fosters growth and prosperity in Wisconsin. The state budget deficit must be addressed. It is time to be honest about what taxpayers can afford. It is also time to bring public sector benefits in line with private sector benefits. Wisconsin must now be a leader in fiscal reform. TheBudget Repair Bill is an honest step in that direction.
I am proud of our County employees and their hard work and dedication to Waukesha County. The flexibility and tools provided in this bill to local governments will help protect taxpayer dollars while still permitting state and local governments to deliver high quality, essential services. The bill also continues to provide public employees with one of the strongest civil service systems in the country.
For years, Waukesha County has been a leader in the area of compensation reform. A few years ago, we started requiring new non-represented employees to contribute to their pension. Our employees also currently contribute toward their health insurance premium. Governor Walker’s bill takes the reforms we have introduced here in Waukesha County to the entire state and I applaud him for that.”
The Budget repair bill was passed by the Wisconsin State Assembly last Friday and is awaiting action from the Wisconsin State Senate.
ttom500: Grinrich.....wants Qdaffi out. I want Qfaffi out. The entire world wants Qdaffi out. Where Obama has gotten into trouble.....was not consulting congress prior to his military mission and thier orders.
By law he has 90 days to bring the case to them. He has not done that yet. But likely will after this 'hand over'. But if he get stuck as being the leader of the coalition....a real possibility...he is in hot water.
Krucnich and 7 others.....were saying it was a impeachable offense. I don't go that far. Nor does Grinrich.
So the clock is ticking......If Qdaffi can hold out the 90 days....keep Obama as the leader of the coalition....then the REP Congress will fire breath on Obama for his breach of the Constitution and it executive statutes.
You got to remember....these guys take a oath to defend the Constitution. Constitutional breaches are frowned on.
How many Quaddafi likes were existing back then when the constitution became and what could America do back them against those tyrans any way?
Time have changed mister TT and America got what is needed defeating dictators and helping people making them leaving their bloody power and America just does a little of her fabulous abilities helping the suppressed demanding their rights and thats it! America got a real coalition this time and that is absolutely fabulous and evne the arab league have accepted this due to president Obama,s fabulous abilities to begotiate...
America is back for sure... what is wrong with this any way? Egypt, Tunesia, Libya and so on will be free and busniess major time will be back and America will benefit major time because of her increadible abilities for rebuilding and enabling nations to do it right and so on ... why shall this be this hard for your guys to inhale TT?
Why Republicans just want people shouting death over and down with America and getting rosey cheeks that way... and getting this out raged and certainly colurles on face as if a stroke is near by each time America gets more popular and respected? Are you guys kind of "none american" but the citizen of the State you are living in as that GOP buzo declared recently TT? If not american then why not admiting it and Fencing your selves in and declaring independency?
Who makes most money on oil speculation any way? I betcha many GOP guys making huge piles of money on oil speculation and then trying to remove watchdogs not getting caught
Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) has again demonstrated her extraordinary leadership in the U.S. House. She discovered $105 billion of taxpayers' money that Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi had hidden in ObamaCare.
Now Rep. Bachmann wants her colleagues to refuse to pass must-pass bills, such as the Continuing Resolution or raising the debt limit, unless they include recapturing that secret money. What a great idea!
After all, the new Congress was elected last November to cut spending and put the federal government back within the bounds of the Constitution. The new Members of Congress promised not only to cut overall spending but specifically to repeal and defund ObamaCare, so thank you, Michele, for showing the new Congress where to start.
When ObamaCare was passed by the Senate on Christmas Eve of 2009, Senators had less than 72 hours to compare a 383-page package of amendments to the 2,074-page bill. Public outrage over backroom deals (such as the Cornhusker Kickback and the Louisiana Purchase) led to the election of Scott Brown in Massachusetts.
Democrats then cooked up a plan to link the now-2409-page Senate-passed ObamaCare bill to dozens of amendments contained in a separate 150-page Budget Reconciliation bill which could pass both houses by a simple majority. That's when then-Speaker Nancy Pelosi famously told the then-Democratic majority, "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it."
When President Obama signed ObamaCare into law, that set in motion a series of funding triggers and money transfers that add up to $105,464,000,000 in pre-authorized appropriations that are scheduled to be paid up through FY2019. In laymens's language, that means writing post-dated checks that are guaranteed to be paid out over the next eight years.
This money was divided into dozens of smaller amounts so the big total would not be apparent. For example, Section 2953 of ObamaCare included a pre-funded appropriation of $75 million a year for five years to "educate adolescents" in "adult preparation subjects" such as "stress management" and "the development of healthy attitudes and values about adolescent growth and development, body image, racial and ethnic diversity, and other related subjects."
Section 4101(a) of ObamaCare prefunded $200 million a year over four years for the construction of school-based health centers. In Section 4002, a total of $17,750,000,000 will be deposited over 10 years to a discretionary account controlled by the HHS Secretary (currently Kathleen Sebelius), who may spend that money "to provide for expanded and sustained national investment in prevention" and to "help restrain the rate of growth in private and public sector health care costs."
At a hearing last week before the House Health Subcommittee, former Congressman Ernest Istook (R-OK) likened ObamaCare to a 2700-page haystack in which a lot of needles are still being discovered. He urged Congress to place a stop payment order on the massive post-dated checks hidden in ObamaCare.
The Pelosi bunch's strategy was devious and highhanded. They bypassed the customary appropriations process and prefunded ObamaCare on passage, knowing that House Rules would restrict a future Congress from defunding an already-enacted law.
This makes it more difficult for Congress to deal with, but not impossible. Congress will both have to include the defunding language in the FY2011 Continuing Resolution and also pass a rule that makes this defunding language OK under House Rules.
There is not only adequate precedent for this procedure but it also is common sense. Congress, in its constitutional role, can completely stop this secret funding of discretionary funds.
What Pelosi did was like setting up online a way to pay your monthly utility bills out of your bank checking account. Each new date triggers the bank to pay the bill out of your bank account.
ObamaCare is very similar. The law Congress passed without reading it lists the dates up to 2019 on which payments totaling $105 billion are to be paid out of the U.S. Treasury.
Rep. Bachmann and Rep. Steve King (R-IA) are asking their colleagues to join them in signing a letter to the House leadership stating that the $105 billion in post-dated checks drawn on the U.S. Treasury must be stopped, and stopped now, by including the necessary language in the continuing resolution.
It is an insult to the U.S. Constitution, which gives the House the power to originate all revenue bills, and to current and future Congresses, for ObamaCare to try to handcuff Congress in regard to future appropriations up through 2019.
We are fortunate that Rep. Bachmann is smart enough to figure out the cost of the secret money in ObamaCare. One of the smartest Members of Congess, she was a tax attorney before being elected to Congress.
hey I hope I can but in , now that the bomming is going on in libyia the arms manufactures will be flat out making new boms and missiles to replace the old ones ...so race out and get a job and help make that stock pile bigger
virgosingle: hey I hope I can but in , now that the bomming is going on in libyia the arms manufactures will be flat out making new boms and missiles to replace the old ones ...so race out and get a job and help make that stock pile bigger
Well... a lot new jobs will be created because of the Earth quake in Japan and because of uprisings in Middle East and Nothern Africa for sure and what the world economy certainly needs is new jobs then generally... we are all going to benefit for sure out of this mess some how.
I am sure there will be many more civilain jobs than war industry jobs when all counts and that is fine with me for sure
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