By destrying unions, taxing the poor more and the rich less, never allowing high speed trains in America, stopping all green energy efforts in America, denying the poor having a right to life if not able to afford health care, cutting in teachers and fire fighters and police officers and social workers and army wages and adding the difference to koch borthers, drilling where ever and how ever and removing any kinds of regulations and killing America,s natur off once and for all, cutting green energy fundings and adding it to nuclear energy instead and other nasty stuff like that or what Texasgirl
Maybe Denmark out to try some of the stuff you are critizing America for. Them maybe Denmark would not be in such bad shape.
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By destrying unions, taxing the poor more and the rich less, never allowing high speed trains in America, stopping all green energy efforts in America, denying the poor having a right to life if not able to afford health care, cutting in teachers and fire fighters and police officers and social workers and army wages and adding the difference to koch borthers, drilling where ever and how ever and removing any kinds of regulations and killing America,s natur off once and for all, cutting green energy fundings and adding it to nuclear energy instead and other nasty stuff like that or what Texasgirl
Maybe Denmark out to try some of the stuff you are critizing America for. Them maybe Denmark would not be in such bad shape.
You and Republicans are DEFINATELY not America all by your selves Faith
ttom500: If you are in the Oval office.....were else does the Buck stop?
Truman's sign...that was on his desk....was first on the desk of a Federal Reformary. It was not his saying, he borrowed it.
But Obama would have been wise in this case....to consult Congress....and spread that Buck (responsibility) around some. The Buck in this case is fully planted on the desk of the President. If it goes wrong......and wars always do, in some way and some how.
And yes...I think that President Obama could have said no the Europeans governments and international community that wanted a shooting and hot no fly zone'. How many years did the US overfly Sadam Iraq without firing a shot? 9
See that is what the Arab league was buying. That is what Italian President was buying into. That ain't what Obama gave them.
I get all that Tom. I see the politics, very very obvious. And all of it beyond ridiculous. That in itself is reason enough to ask yourself what the hell is really going on. Who profits or gains? And I don't mean monetarily only. Certainly not Americans already mired in debt and a diminishing dollar, not to mention what China is doing to you. All very very ridiculous.
Really, better than a magic act.
I thought there was hope for you TT. Obama is not running things, in the US or anywhere else for that matter. Probably not even in the bedroom
Errr maybe he's just emptying old weapons stock. You know the turn over thing.
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Just like Bush didn't give a darn about Iraq either
Bush also didn't go behind the back of Congress with the Iraqi war....Unlike Obama who did go behind the back of congress.
What Congress? A congress with majority of americna Talibanees all sitting there to say NO to what ever this president suggets? Asking the congress would mean too many days of discussions and not a thing good out of those discussions and mean while Quaddafi would kill them all as the Republican party of America preferes would be the out come of the Libyan reveloution
I think you'll find that congress was given the same intelligence reports that he recieved; along with several other countries verifying weapons of mass destruction.
May look it up tomorrow. Too late to waste time tonight...
BB_snickers: I get all that Tom. I see the politics, very very obvious. And all of it beyond ridiculous. That in itself is reason enough to ask yourself what the hell is really going on. Who profits or gains? And I don't mean monetarily only. Certainly not Americans already mired in debt and a diminishing dollar, not to mention what China is doing to you. All very very ridiculous.
Really, better than a magic act.
I thought there was hope for you TT. Obama is not running things, in the US or anywhere else for that matter. Probably not even in the bedroom
Errr maybe he's just emptying old weapons stock. You know the turn over thing.
You are right. He has let the EU take the lead in the Libyan intervention. And he is about to place American troops under foreign military commanders again.
He is the Commander in Chief. Those are his people. Not some English General or some French admiral on a boat in med. He already did it in Afghanistan. A first there.
So now when this hand over occurs.....think that if most NATO is still walking the fence on a decision.....and Italy is only going to monitor the situation....that they are not going to ask for US to be there with our "unique abilities"?
Of course they are. The Hand over is merely a command exchange. So our people will be under some European commander that could care less about their welfare and safety.
That is why from General Black Pershing (WWI) to General Eisenhower (WWII)....thru the Cold War.....Americans were led by Americans.
That is how much President Obama trusts the EU and its leaders.........he trust them more than Americans. They say jump, he asks how high.
Hot_Single_Dude: What Congress? A congress with majority of americna Talibanees all sitting there to say NO to what ever this president suggets? Asking the congress would mean too many days of discussions and not a thing good out of those discussions and mean while Quaddafi would kill them all as the Republican party of America preferes would be the out come of the Libyan reveloution
I found some info overa year ago that showed that Bush had made plans to attack Iraq.He was also proved to be a liar.
Ccincy: I found some info overa year ago that showed that Bush had made plans to attack Iraq.He was also proved to be a liar.I'm sure Obama has told some ziggers himself too.
This time Obama waited till there was an international coalition and an approval of UN and the arab league and this war is not an americna leaded attack but a colaition attack and began because Quaddafi really kills human beings because he does not want to leave the power. This time we are all able to watch what is going on in Libya and how horrible this Quaddafi is behaving and no body claims he got WMD,s ready to launch in 45 minutes a gaisnt Europe and so on but a brutal dictator have st the military and mercenaries against own people and some body got to stop him!
Quaddafi have been suggested several peaceful ways to pull off and leaving the country together with his family but refused and kept warning a bout wiping of all people who are agianst him and calling them Alqueda!
What ever happened before this international attack on Libya was due to Quaddafi,s actions and his own words on natioanal TV over there and not some thing claimed by the GWB regim and a Powell showing drawings and cartoons a bout movable chemichal weapon production facilities and stuff you see?
Nothing would happen agaisnt Libya if he had chosed listening to protestors instead of massacring them and he chose him self and called attacks upon himself and deserves the out come of this playing with lions tail major time.
This time president Obama is not on TV talking a bout : "Either with us or agaisnt us" rethoric! This battle is not based on presidnet Obamas wish or his world or his claims... the dang Tyran of Libya is proud of his massacring Libyans and got the nerve to countinue and then a coalition of decency have decided to end his possibilities doing so and now wanting him to leave!
Ccincy: But the funny rthingt was there was no WOMDs found.
They found a lot of WMD,s when they looted Baghdad international airport and called it "the battle of airport"... some fine Scotch can be concidered as WMD,s if not being taken cared of with ease
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Hot_Single_Dude: What Congress? A congress with majority of americna Talibanees all sitting there to say NO to what ever this president suggets? Asking the congress would mean too many days of discussions and not a thing good out of those discussions and mean while Quaddafi would kill them all as the Republican party of America preferes would be the out come of the Libyan reveloution
Not to hijack the thread but, how is it you get away with so much name calling and so many inflammatory statements?
It looks like loads of fun but I'm afraid I'd get banned by the moderators for trolling (rightfully so many would say).
So what is your secret to getting away with it? I really would like to know what makes you so special that you have been able to get away with this for months on end.
KattsroseKind of near Portsmouth, NH, New Hampshire USA911 posts
Hot_Single_Dude: They found a lot of WMD,s when they looted Baghdad international airport and called it "the battle of airport"... some fine Scotch can be concidered as WMD,s if not being taken cared of with ease
I never heard about this before. PLEASE, post the proof for all of us to see.
That is how much President Obama trusts the EU and its leaders.........he trust them more than Americans. They say jump, he asks how high.
You're getting warmer Tom. I'm impressed, really.
How much do you know about mergers and acquisitions as it relates to political agendas? This really isn't about Obama trusting anyone. It wasn't ever about Bush either. Both these guys have done some pretty ridiculous things, far too ridiculous to be accepted as the normal process of a 'freedom' march.
Are you aware of what conglomerates do in order to acquire whatever it is they want to acquire? More to the point we're not necessarily looking at land acquisition here or even oil. Resource management can be done by subsidiaries. So they wouldn't ever even consider putting themselves on that stage since it would obviate their position. No, subsidiaries can handle that.
I don't know if you recall many of Obama's pre-election speeches and the promises he made regarding dealing with, well let's call them maniacs for lack of a better term and really the term is exactly what this conglomerate wants you to call them. It creates an acceptable public opinion for taking them out. Obama promised talk and dialogue then and he promised to get your assess out of Iraq and soon.
Guess what. What Obama wanted doesn't mean squat to these people. He is not only acting out of character, he is acting irrational and if that is not enough to make you wonder who is really pulling the strings, then I don't know what is.
Someone in the EU? I suspect there are puppets there too. The EU itself was a "merger". The acquisition was control over a much broader area.
We can keep watching the dog and pony show here, thats the point of it all for them. Keep the public thinking this is all about Libyans vs Americans, democrats versus repubs, yeahs versus nays.
"United we stand, divided we fall" .. and if you don't see the overt attempt at public divisiveness you are indeed falling for the oldest political trick in the books.
Kattsrose: Not to hijack the thread but, how is it you get away with so much name calling and so many inflammatory statements?
It looks like loads of fun but I'm afraid I'd get banned by the moderators for trolling (rightfully so many would say).
So what is your secret to getting away with it? I really would like to know what makes you so special that you have been able to get away with this for months on end.
just points of views and not name calling Katt and beside it is perfectly all right to warn a bout a political movment in America which is dammaging America this rapidley and the rest of the world as well.
You should ask some of ur friends in here how they are getitng away with name calling the president of the United States but still you love to concentrate on my words since your brain is hijacked by GOP who does not even like you when all counts
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So on so on back to any president who ever waged a war.
Bush isn't president.