Just one more thing too....what about the remaining 30%? Are those marriages truly happy? Or, are they just still in existence for the sake of the kids, for financial reasons, for public image? Would the divorce rate be much higher if not for those reasons and more?
Yes. people to change their minds. But...like you say with society influencing people...are people really changing their minds or are they being influenced by an outside force to change their mind...therefore, they are not changing their minds but something is manipulating them.
Times have indeed changed. Feminism has influence now on society. What alarms me is that there must have been a lot of women who have suffered through the years...(what is the divorce rate today 70-ish?)....can one say the number of women who have suffered through the years was approximately 70%?
That is a huge majority. How can that many men get it so wrong?
No wonder why women call men pigs....that is probably being polite.
Thank you so much for the expansion. What you have shared really gives me a better understanding what women find important from their man. Much of the information could easily be overlooked or just not even seen as rather important to a man. You also mention another critical point, about men not having emotions. As we all know, men are taught to be tough and not to show emotions. I think by what you have posted here, that is what makes some men susceptible to missing these things. They may not feel comfortable with themselves expressing these emotions....goes against the grain of what they were conditioned to.
Very good information Georgia....
No doubt I will say, as women divorce their men....emotions will most likely be coming to surfaces.
I know somebody else commented about mentioning public and private life. Your story here is a perfect example of that. I wonder if there is a next stage in their lives now? ....hopefully not for the more worse.
Also Map.....most women have many options, much more than what men have available, like you have mentioned. Just that alone, like I mentioned to Ash, allows them to be less tolerable...more fussy...etc.
At one time, a think a marriage was sorta viewed as like you say, a team. Through thick and thin, a couple would do what it took. Not blaming any particular gender here...even it may seem like that....but I think feminism has suggested to women to become less tolerable. Maybe for the good though....maybe men need a slight wake up call.
That is true, a woman will never forget anything that she felt wronged about. You know that more I get to know more people, the more disheartened about today's relationships I feel. It almost seems as if people are losing it.
I must say, a lot of alcohol is involved in these turmoil ridden relationships. The most hectic are where I see both people in the relationship drink a lot.
I can speak for myself here, I am just trying to become more informed, so as to not make too many mistakes...though we are all flawed.
But....I have seen where what a woman wants in a relationship oversteps her boundaries. The one example I can give is where she wants to create a rift between her man's family and him/them. Perhaps he gives more attention to his family, than her....leading to jealousy.
You bring up a wonderful point that I have never thought of. The point that long time friends are very tight...perhaps even more tighter than a person in a relationship. As you point out, the relationship is easier to find than a long term close friendship....especially a friendship where you know (or believe) there are no hidden agendas. Therefore, the trust level is higher.
But....don't get me wrong, men are not saints.
Maybe a woman can post some blogs about the shortcomings of men and they can be discussed. The genders do have different perspectives.
I do agree, all relationships do have their ups and downs. So true....perhaps that two I have used here in the blog, they were in somewhat of a low spot.
But, I do beg to differ with outside influences. I am not bias, or a gender hater here....but I sincerely believe..and have seen where women are more easily influenced by outside forces. Men are influenced as well, but I don't think at the level women are.
If that is the case, feminism is like your group of girlfriends you seek their advice from, the problem is when feminism takes on a man-hating mentality. In other words, there is a negative bias toward men. Therefore, the scale you speak of....the levelness of it might be masked with a bias.
I have heard of this....
A women is happy in her relationship/marriage.
However, an outside person starts to point out the man's shortcomings.
...all of a sudden,
There is a separation in the making.
If a woman's friend can have that sort of an affect on a happy relationship, what then can a whole gender's group (feminism) have on a relationship?
Good stuff Freedom. I hope other men are reading this as well. The woman does need her mind stimulated. Just how you go about it, I suppose depends on what type of man you are and what type of woman she is.
Nice to see you Robert as well. What the heck is going on with you? Have you quit the dustpan pizza business? That could lead to divorce as well.....just like the disturbance with the game.
Interesting, divorce after 45 years. I am assuming this couple you speak of were in their 60's.
He chose the bottle over her.
Well, there could be many reasons for that and I will not even get into any of them. Because, I can give a couple....and for everyone I give, there will be at least 10 more for each of them.
But....this is one of the rare cases where I have heard of an older couple divorcing.
I am glad you brought that up. A friend of mine overheard two married women one night talking about their different toy sizes. The only thing I concluded from that is....well, they are still married. Maybe that is the secret to a happy marriage....different sizes for different moods?
So Usha, you think I probably never should have written the blog in the first place. Sometimes though, I just cannot help myself...gotta ask anyway. Maybe I should just grow up.
Yeah...that was nice of Blue. I was waiting for Robert to show up too. ....think somebody ruined that though.
Ashes...if I bring this movie for our special night here, I can get you all primed up for the after-movie activities. That should be tough to forget too.
Divorce
....and women need to educate themselves as well.